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* SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - ContactsMichael Eibl
`* SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - ContactsMichael Eibl
 `* SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - ContactsDon Spam's Reckless Son
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From: ikinciadi-news@yahoo.de (Michael Eibl)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 12:54:02 +0100
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 by: Michael Eibl - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 11:54 UTC

Hi,

The Beta does not ask for permission to have read access to the contacts
maintained in contacts.app. Which probably means that it won't be able
to use them when creating e-mails.

Regards
Michael

MacBook Pro, M1

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From: ikinciadi-news@yahoo.de (Michael Eibl)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 15:48:40 +0200
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 by: Michael Eibl - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:48 UTC

I knew it!

SeaMonkey (2.53.16 release) does not use e-mail addresses stored in
Contacts. This used to be one of the few advantages of SeaMonkey mail
over Thunderbird and one of the reasons to keep using SeaMonkey.

Please make this work again, I would highly appreciate it.

Regards,
Michael

Am 15.03.23 um 12:54 schrieb Michael Eibl:
> Hi,
>
> The Beta does not ask for permission to have read access to the contacts
> maintained in contacts.app. Which probably means that it won't be able
> to use them when creating e-mails.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
> MacBook Pro, M1

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From: hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid (Don Spam's Reckless Son)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:16 UTC

Michael Eibl wrote:
> I knew it!
>
> SeaMonkey (2.53.16 release) does not use e-mail addresses stored in
> Contacts. This used to be one of the few advantages of SeaMonkey mail
> over Thunderbird and one of the reasons to keep using SeaMonkey.
>
> Please make this work again, I would highly appreciate it.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> Am 15.03.23 um 12:54 schrieb Michael Eibl:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Beta does not ask for permission to have read access to the
>> contacts maintained in contacts.app. Which probably means that it
>> won't be able to use them when creating e-mails.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>> MacBook Pro, M1
>

This is Mac-only, right?

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From: ikinciadi-news@yahoo.de (Michael Eibl)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
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 by: Michael Eibl - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 16:05 UTC

I have observed it on a Mac. I have not tested it on any other platform.

Regards,
Michael

Am 03.04.23 um 16:16 schrieb Don Spam's Reckless Son:
> Michael Eibl wrote:
>> I knew it!
>>
>> SeaMonkey (2.53.16 release) does not use e-mail addresses stored in
>> Contacts. This used to be one of the few advantages of SeaMonkey mail
>> over Thunderbird and one of the reasons to keep using SeaMonkey.
>>
>> Please make this work again, I would highly appreciate it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> Am 15.03.23 um 12:54 schrieb Michael Eibl:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Beta does not ask for permission to have read access to the
>>> contacts maintained in contacts.app. Which probably means that it
>>> won't be able to use them when creating e-mails.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> MacBook Pro, M1
>>
>
> This is Mac-only, right?

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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 19:54 UTC

Michael Eibl wrote:
> I have observed it on a Mac. I have not tested it on any other platform.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> Am 03.04.23 um 16:16 schrieb Don Spam's Reckless Son:
>> Michael Eibl wrote:
>>> I knew it!
>>>
>>> SeaMonkey (2.53.16 release) does not use e-mail addresses stored in
>>> Contacts. This used to be one of the few advantages of SeaMonkey mail
>>> over Thunderbird and one of the reasons to keep using SeaMonkey.
>>>
>>> Please make this work again, I would highly appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Am 15.03.23 um 12:54 schrieb Michael Eibl:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beta does not ask for permission to have read access to the
>>>> contacts maintained in contacts.app. Which probably means that it
>>>> won't be able to use them when creating e-mails.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> MacBook Pro, M1
>>>
>>
>> This is Mac-only, right?
>

(going back to posting at the bottom)

The Contacts app is Mac specific? I have never heard of anything like
that under Linux or Windows (no idea about Win11).
Just for giggles I tried composing a mail addressed to someone who has
mailed me but is not in my Address book, auto-fill worked just as I
expected.

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From: ikinciadi-news@yahoo.de (Michael Eibl)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
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 by: Michael Eibl - Mon, 3 Apr 2023 22:23 UTC

Am 03.04.23 um 21:54 schrieb Don Spam's Reckless Son:
> Just for giggles I tried composing a mail addressed to someone who has
> mailed me but is not in my Address book, auto-fill worked just as I
> expected.
That still works. This is SeaMonkey's internal address book. But I would
like SeaMonkey to be able to use the standard address database that
comes with the OS. I am sharing the content this address database across
platforms and machines via CardDAV.

Regards,
Michael

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From: frgrahl@gmx.net (frg)
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Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
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 by: frg - Tue, 4 Apr 2023 19:42 UTC

Michael Eibl wrote:
> Am 03.04.23 um 21:54 schrieb Don Spam's Reckless Son:
>> Just for giggles I tried composing a mail addressed to someone who has
>> mailed me but is not in my Address book, auto-fill worked just as I expected.
> That still works. This is SeaMonkey's internal address book. But I would like
> SeaMonkey to be able to use the standard address database that comes with the
> OS. I am sharing the content this address database across platforms and
> machines via CardDAV.
>
> Regards,
> Michael

There wasn't anything changed here. Seems apple added a new requirement and
you updated macOS. Added <key>NSContactsUsageDescription</key> to the plist
file. Please test the latest 2.53.17b1 pre build from
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ I was able to acccess the contacts again under
13.3.

FRG

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From: ikinciadi-news@yahoo.de (Michael Eibl)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 - Contacts
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 by: Michael Eibl - Tue, 4 Apr 2023 23:42 UTC

Am 04.04.23 um 21:42 schrieb frg:
>
> There wasn't anything changed here. Seems apple added a new requirement
> and you updated macOS.
I am afraid this cannot be quite correct. 2.53.13 and 2.53.15 do ask for
permession to read the contact database and they do use it.

Added <key>NSContactsUsageDescription</key> to
> the plist file. Please test the latest 2.53.17b1 pre build from
> https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ I was able to acccess the contacts again
> under 13.3.
Will try.

Regards,
Michael

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Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
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 by: Michael Eibl - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:31 UTC

On 4/4/23 9:42 PM, frg wrote:
> Please test the latest 2.53.17b1 pre build from
> https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ I was able to acccess the contacts again
> under 13.3.
Works for me as well.

Thanks,
Michael


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