Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?

Closing the message window closes the application. (slack15)

Rinaldi

On 2/18/2024 at 5:27 PM, RinaldiJ wrote:
> Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>
> Closing the message window closes the application. (slack15)
>
> Rinaldi

https://www.betterbird.eu/support/index.html

https://github.com/issues

On 2/18/2024 at 5:58 PM, Bill H wrote:
> On 2/18/2024 at 5:27 PM, RinaldiJ wrote:
>> Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>>
>> Closing the message window closes the application. (slack15)
>>
>> Rinaldi
>
> https://www.betterbird.eu/support/index.html
>
> https://github.com/issues

Oops. Forget the second link, it is a mistake.

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:27:47 -0600, RinaldiJ <rinaldij@nunya.com>
wrote:

>Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>
>Closing the message window closes the application. (slack15)
>
>Rinaldi

We hope so...

On 2/18/2024 7:27 PM, RinaldiJ wrote:
> Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>
> Closing the message window closes the application.  (slack15)
>
> Rinaldi

de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews has many more BetterBird users and the
principle person involved, Jorg, closely monitors the group.

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On 19/02/2024 01:27, RinaldiJ wrote:
> Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>
> Closing the message window closes the application.� (slack15)
>
> Rinaldi

You can read this before deciding yourself whether to continue using
Horrible Bird.

<https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/16nptsi/thunderbird_extension_author_and_project_leader/>

> And that's one of the many reasons why that guy was banned from
> Mozilla. He goes around throwing the word "legal" whenever things
> don't go his way.
>
> Don't use betterbird, it's just crappy patches on top of the work of
> others
>

The guy has been banned by Mozilla from posting his product details and
extensions on Mozilla Platform. He is a bully and violating all rules of
Open Source community.

On 19/02/2024 14:33, Diamonds wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 01:27, RinaldiJ wrote:
>> Is there a separate forum for betterbird questions?
>>
>> Closing the message window closes the application.  (slack15)
>>
>> Rinaldi
>
> You can read this before deciding yourself whether to continue using
> Horrible Bird.
>
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/16nptsi/thunderbird_extension_author_and_project_leader/>
>
>> And that's one of the many reasons why that guy was banned from
>> Mozilla. He goes around throwing the word "legal" whenever things
>> don't go his way.
>>
>> Don't use betterbird, it's just crappy patches on top of the work of
>> others
>>
>
>
> The guy has been banned by Mozilla from posting his product details and
> extensions on Mozilla Platform. He is a bully and violating all rules of
> Open Source community.
>
Oh noes!

A bitch fight between Open Source developers!!

Threats of lawyers at six paces!!!

The end of the world is nigh!!!!

It happens all the fscking time, someone's ego gets bruised, or
over-inflated, or they take the bad acid.

And we end up with another fork.

It's just FLOSS working as intended.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

On 19 Feb 2024 02:58, Bill H wrote:
> https://www.betterbird.eu/support/index.html
>
> https://github.com/issues

https://github.com/Betterbird/thunderbird-patches/issues for "real" issues only.

Also:

https://www.thunderbird-mail.de/forum/board/91-betterbird/ (in German)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Betterbird/

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On 19 Feb 2024 04:33, Diamonds wrote:
>> Don't use betterbird, it's just crappy patches on top of the work of
>> others

> The guy has been banned by Mozilla from posting his product details and
> extensions on Mozilla Platform.

I think you haven't understood this.

BTW, the answer to:

it's just crappy patches on top of the work of others

was:

What you call "crappy patches" delivers complex search terms, regular expression
search, search in PGP encrypted messages, Linux system tray integration, recent
file attachments and many more features to discerning users who have asked for
some of these features for 20 years or more. Additionally it fixes various bugs in
Thunderbird and many fixes have been integrated into the Thunderbird code base,
five alone in September 2023 so far (with two more lined up).

The whole idea of open source is to build on top of the work of others. Besides,
the project leader of Betterbird was the Thunderbird maintainer between 2017 and 2019.

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Viele Grüße, Jörg
Sent with Betterbird. Simply better.
www.betterbird.eu - www.betterbird.eu/#featuretable
Es ist immer wieder erstaunlich: Kaum macht man's richtig, schon funktioniert's!

On 19/02/2024 13:13, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
>
>
> The whole idea of open source is to build on top of the work of others.

If this is the case why did you threaten somebody who was creating
something using JavaScript as much as you are using. How many ways are
there to use JavaScripts to create Extensions in Thunderbird or Firefox?.

> Besides, the project leader of Betterbird was the Thunderbird
> maintainer between 2017 and 2019.

Why did Mozilla ban you from their platform? Is it because you were not a
Team Worker or was it because they deemed you as scammer on their
platform? Your extension was not free but when somebody created a free
version you decided to threaten him with legal action? Do you think
Mozilla can allow this on their platform?

On 19 Feb 2024 19:00, Diamonds wrote:
> Why did Mozilla ban you from their platform?

Long story. It happened in 2020. I was the hired Thunderbird maintainer from 2016
to 2019:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210402042906/https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2016-December/005142.html

> Your
> extension was not free but when somebody created a free version you decided to
> threaten him with legal action? Do you think Mozilla can allow this on their platform?

You got it all mixed up. The extension was and is free. I only decided to withdraw
it from addons.thunderbird.net and host it at www.betterbird.eu. That was in 2023.

I pointed out the license conditions to the author of the (unnecessary)
replacement add-on, that's all.

In general: Do you want to discuss software here or politics? If you want to
discuss politics, please inform yourself, all the information is publicly
available, but it takes more than repeating a Reddit post.

--
Viele Grüße, Jörg
Sent with Betterbird. Simply better.
www.betterbird.eu - www.betterbird.eu/#featuretable
Es ist immer wieder erstaunlich: Kaum macht man's richtig, schon funktioniert's!