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* INN 2.x FAQRuss Allbery
`* Re: INN 2.x FAQfloffy@gallaxial.com
 +* Re: INN 2.x FAQRuss Allbery
 |`- Re: INN 2.x FAQEric M
 `* News server for Windows. (was: INN 2.x FAQ)Frank Slootweg
  +* Re: News server for Windows. (was: INN 2.x FAQ)D
  |`- Re: News server for Windows. (was: INN 2.x FAQ)floffy@gallaxial.com
  `* Re: News server for Windows. (was: INN 2.x FAQ)candycanearter07
   `- Re: News server for Windows. (was: INN 2.x FAQ)floffy@gallaxial.com

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INN 2.x FAQ

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Subject: INN 2.x FAQ
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Last-modified: 2023-12-27
Posted-by: postfaq 1.17 (Perl 5.28.1)
Archive-name: usenet/software/inn2-faq
URL: https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html
Posting-frequency: monthly

This FAQ is intended to answer frequently asked questions concerning the
current versions of INN (INN 2.x and later) seen on news.software.nntp.
It should be referred to in preference to the old INN FAQ, which only
documents versions up to 1.7. It mostly covers INN 2.3 and later; earlier
versions of INN may behave differently or use different configuration
files.

If you're reading this on Usenet, this FAQ is formatted as a minimal
digest, so if your news or mail reader has digest handling capabilities
you can use them to navigate between sections. In rn variants, you can
use Ctrl-G to skip to the next section; in Gnus, press Ctrl-D to break
each section into a separate article.

Please send any comments, suggestions, or updates to <eagle@eyrie.org>.
Bear in mind when sending me e-mail that I receive upwards of 800 mail
messages a day and have unanswered personal e-mail dating back six months
or more, so please don't expect an immediate response. You may receive
quicker responses by posting to news.software.nntp (even, due to the
quirky way in which I read mail and news, from me).

This FAQ is posted monthly to news.software.nntp, and is available on the
web at <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html>.

------------------------------

Subject: Contents

1. General Questions
1.1. What is INN?
1.2. What is the current version?
1.3. Where can I get INN?
1.4. Where can I find documentation?
1.5. What newsgroups are there for INN?
1.6. What mailing lists are there for INN?
1.7. How can I support INN development?
1.8. How can I contribute to INN?

2. Terms
2.1. What is tradspool (traditional spool)?
2.2. What is CNFS?
2.3. What are timehash and timecaf?
2.4. What is overview?
2.5. What are deferrals (NNTP code 431)?

3. Specific Problems
3.1. INN won't start after a new installation
3.3. The news server isn't keeping up with incoming news
3.4. news.notice is empty and the nightly report is missing things
3.5. INN is running out of file descriptors
3.6. Can't get debugging information out of INN
3.7. Articles aren't being sent to remote peers
3.8. sendmail isn't installed

4. Error Messages
4.1. innd: SERVER cant store article
4.2. innd: SERVER internal no control and/or junk group
4.3. Modification of read-only value attempted (Cleanfeed)
4.4. tradspool: could not open ... File exists
4.5. Binary posting to non-binary group (Cleanfeed)

5. Problems on Specific Systems
5.1. INN won't compile on SCO OpenServer / UnixWare / OpenUNIX
5.2. Using raw devices on Solaris destroys the partition table
5.3. Will INN run on Windows?
5.4. Why aren't INN's files where the documentation says they are?
5.5. Running INN on macOS

6. How Do I...
6.1. Set up a server with no external feeds, just local groups
6.2. Process a single control message
6.4. Feed all articles on a server to another server
6.5. Rename a newsgroup
6.6. Change the domain used for message IDs
6.7. Use INN without a direct news feed
6.8. Generate MRTG graphs for INN
6.9. Hide the junk and control groups from users
6.10. Modify the body of posts made through my server
6.11. Hide the Injection-Info header field
6.12. Run innd and nnrpd on separate ports
6.13. Back up and restore an INN installation
6.14. Find external feeds and set up peering

(Note that some numbers have been skipped. When questions are removed,
the remaining questions are not renumbered to avoid breaking links in
Usenet and mailing list archives.)

------------------------------

Subject: 1. General Questions

Contained in this section are general questions about INN, where to find
it, and things of that sort. It is aimed at the person who is not yet
running INN, or who has general questions about how it works.

------------------------------

Subject: 1.1. What is INN?

The README that comes with INN has this to say (in part):

INN (InterNetNews), originally written by Rich Salz, is an extremely
flexible and configurable Usenet / Netnews news server. For a
complete description of the protocols behind Usenet and Netnews, see
RFC 3977 (NNTP), RFC 4642 updated by RFC 8143 (TLS/NNTP), RFC 4643 (NNTP
authentication), RFC 4644 (streaming NNTP feeds), RFC 5536 (USEFOR), RFC
5537 (USEPRO), RFC 6048 (NNTP LIST additions), RFC 8054 (NNTP compression)
and RFC 8315 (Cancel-Lock) or their replacements.

In brief, Netnews is a set of protocols for exchanging messages between
a decentralized network of news servers. News articles are organized
into newsgroups, which are themselves organized into hierarchies.
Each individual news server stores locally all articles it has received
for a given newsgroup, making access to stored articles extremely fast.
Netnews does not require any central server; instead, each news server
passes along articles it receives to all of the news servers it peers
with, those servers pass the articles along to their peers, and so on,
resulting in "flood fill" propagation of news articles.

INN is free software, supported by Internet Systems Consortium and
volunteers around the world.

For a more complete answer, see that file. A full description of what
Usenet and Netnews are is beyond the scope of this document; for a
beginner's introduction, see the news.newusers.questions home page at
<http://www.tokak.us/nnq/>.

------------------------------

Subject: 1.2. What is the current version?

The most recently released version of INN is 2.7.1.

INN development proceeds in two branches, as with many other free software
projects. The STABLE branch is maintenance of the most recently released
stable version, and only bug fixes are added to it. The CURRENT branch is
the development version of the next release of INN.

As mentioned in the next section, when installing a new INN server, you
may wish to download the latest snapshot of the STABLE branch rather than
the current full release.

Note that the previous STABLE series for INN 2.6 terminated in the release
of INN 2.6.5 and current STABLE snapshots are based on INN 2.7. You
should therefore read the upgrade instructions in NEWS when upgrading from
a STABLE snapshot before July 11th, 2022 to one dated after that.

------------------------------

Subject: 1.3. Where can I get INN?

The download site for INN is <https://ftp.isc.org/isc/inn/>. In that
directory are the various releases of INN, some additional documentation
(particularly of security holes), the original INN Usenix paper.

There is also a snapshots subdirectory, in which you will find two sets
of snapshots: ones at the top level, which are updated only when the
code changes, and ones in the daily subdirectory, which are generated
every day and retained for seven days. The daily snapshots with
STABLE in the name are the latest versions of the STABLE branch and
may have some additional bug fixes over the current released version.
The daily snapshots with CURRENT in the name are of the current
development version.

Please note: There is no guarantee that a snapshot will even compile, let
alone function well as a news server. In particular, the CURRENT branch
is under active development, and all sorts of things may be broken at any
given point in time. Use snapshots with caution, and don't use snapshots
from the CURRENT branch on any production system unless you're prepared to
debug the inevitable problems in code that's actively changing and not yet
thoroughly tested. (The STABLE snapshots should be fairly reliable,
however.)

------------------------------

Subject: 1.4. Where can I find documentation?

INN comes with extensive documentation. See the files INSTALL and README
at the top level of the source tree, for starters. In addition, nearly
every program and configuration file has its own Unix man page. The best
place to start is by reading the entire INSTALL file and then from there
discovering which configuration files and programs do what you want to do
and reading their individual man pages.

There are HTML conversions of the documentation that comes with recent
versions of INN available at:

<https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/>

For additional documentation beyond what is distributed with INN, follow
the links suggested in the above page.

The documentation that comes with INN is fairly technical in nature and
lacking in some more general details on configuring news servers. Some of
the links off of the INN home page have additional overview documentation
or documentation on how to set up servers for specific roles.

Another good resource is the newsgroup news.software.nntp (and the Google
archives thereof) and the archive of the inn-workers mailing list. A link
to the latter is off the INN page referenced above.


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Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:01:02 -0000 (UTC), Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> wrote:

>Last-modified: 2023-12-27
>Posted-by: postfaq 1.17 (Perl 5.28.1)
>Archive-name: usenet/software/inn2-faq
>URL: https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html
>Posting-frequency: monthly
>
>This FAQ is intended to answer frequently asked questions concerning the
>current versions of INN (INN 2.x and later) seen on news.software.nntp.
>It should be referred to in preference to the old INN FAQ, which only
>documents versions up to 1.7. It mostly covers INN 2.3 and later; earlier
>versions of INN may behave differently or use different configuration
>files.
>
>If you're reading this on Usenet, this FAQ is formatted as a minimal
>digest, so if your news or mail reader has digest handling capabilities
>you can use them to navigate between sections. In rn variants, you can
>use Ctrl-G to skip to the next section; in Gnus, press Ctrl-D to break
>each section into a separate article.
>
>Please send any comments, suggestions, or updates to <eagle@eyrie.org>.
>Bear in mind when sending me e-mail that I receive upwards of 800 mail
>messages a day and have unanswered personal e-mail dating back six months
>or more, so please don't expect an immediate response. You may receive
>quicker responses by posting to news.software.nntp (even, due to the
>quirky way in which I read mail and news, from me).
>
>This FAQ is posted monthly to news.software.nntp, and is available on the
>web at <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html>.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: Contents
>
>1. General Questions
> 1.1. What is INN?
> 1.2. What is the current version?
> 1.3. Where can I get INN?
> 1.4. Where can I find documentation?
> 1.5. What newsgroups are there for INN?
> 1.6. What mailing lists are there for INN?
> 1.7. How can I support INN development?
> 1.8. How can I contribute to INN?
>
>2. Terms
> 2.1. What is tradspool (traditional spool)?
> 2.2. What is CNFS?
> 2.3. What are timehash and timecaf?
> 2.4. What is overview?
> 2.5. What are deferrals (NNTP code 431)?
>
>3. Specific Problems
> 3.1. INN won't start after a new installation
> 3.3. The news server isn't keeping up with incoming news
> 3.4. news.notice is empty and the nightly report is missing things
> 3.5. INN is running out of file descriptors
> 3.6. Can't get debugging information out of INN
> 3.7. Articles aren't being sent to remote peers
> 3.8. sendmail isn't installed
>
>4. Error Messages
> 4.1. innd: SERVER cant store article
> 4.2. innd: SERVER internal no control and/or junk group
> 4.3. Modification of read-only value attempted (Cleanfeed)
> 4.4. tradspool: could not open ... File exists
> 4.5. Binary posting to non-binary group (Cleanfeed)
>
>5. Problems on Specific Systems
> 5.1. INN won't compile on SCO OpenServer / UnixWare / OpenUNIX
> 5.2. Using raw devices on Solaris destroys the partition table
> 5.3. Will INN run on Windows?
> 5.4. Why aren't INN's files where the documentation says they are?
> 5.5. Running INN on macOS
>
>6. How Do I...
> 6.1. Set up a server with no external feeds, just local groups
> 6.2. Process a single control message
> 6.4. Feed all articles on a server to another server
> 6.5. Rename a newsgroup
> 6.6. Change the domain used for message IDs
> 6.7. Use INN without a direct news feed
> 6.8. Generate MRTG graphs for INN
> 6.9. Hide the junk and control groups from users
> 6.10. Modify the body of posts made through my server
> 6.11. Hide the Injection-Info header field
> 6.12. Run innd and nnrpd on separate ports
> 6.13. Back up and restore an INN installation
> 6.14. Find external feeds and set up peering
>
>(Note that some numbers have been skipped. When questions are removed,
>the remaining questions are not renumbered to avoid breaking links in
>Usenet and mailing list archives.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1. General Questions
>
>Contained in this section are general questions about INN, where to find
>it, and things of that sort. It is aimed at the person who is not yet
>running INN, or who has general questions about how it works.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.1. What is INN?
>
>The README that comes with INN has this to say (in part):
>
> INN (InterNetNews), originally written by Rich Salz, is an extremely
> flexible and configurable Usenet / Netnews news server. For a
> complete description of the protocols behind Usenet and Netnews, see
> RFC 3977 (NNTP), RFC 4642 updated by RFC 8143 (TLS/NNTP), RFC 4643 (NNTP
> authentication), RFC 4644 (streaming NNTP feeds), RFC 5536 (USEFOR), RFC
> 5537 (USEPRO), RFC 6048 (NNTP LIST additions), RFC 8054 (NNTP compression)
> and RFC 8315 (Cancel-Lock) or their replacements.
>
> In brief, Netnews is a set of protocols for exchanging messages between
> a decentralized network of news servers. News articles are organized
> into newsgroups, which are themselves organized into hierarchies.
> Each individual news server stores locally all articles it has received
> for a given newsgroup, making access to stored articles extremely fast.
> Netnews does not require any central server; instead, each news server
> passes along articles it receives to all of the news servers it peers
> with, those servers pass the articles along to their peers, and so on,
> resulting in "flood fill" propagation of news articles.
>
> INN is free software, supported by Internet Systems Consortium and
> volunteers around the world.
>
>For a more complete answer, see that file. A full description of what
>Usenet and Netnews are is beyond the scope of this document; for a
>beginner's introduction, see the news.newusers.questions home page at
><http://www.tokak.us/nnq/>.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.2. What is the current version?
>
>The most recently released version of INN is 2.7.1.
>
>INN development proceeds in two branches, as with many other free software
>projects. The STABLE branch is maintenance of the most recently released
>stable version, and only bug fixes are added to it. The CURRENT branch is
>the development version of the next release of INN.
>
>As mentioned in the next section, when installing a new INN server, you
>may wish to download the latest snapshot of the STABLE branch rather than
>the current full release.
>
>Note that the previous STABLE series for INN 2.6 terminated in the release
>of INN 2.6.5 and current STABLE snapshots are based on INN 2.7. You
>should therefore read the upgrade instructions in NEWS when upgrading from
>a STABLE snapshot before July 11th, 2022 to one dated after that.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.3. Where can I get INN?
>
>The download site for INN is <https://ftp.isc.org/isc/inn/>. In that
>directory are the various releases of INN, some additional documentation
>(particularly of security holes), the original INN Usenix paper.
>
>There is also a snapshots subdirectory, in which you will find two sets
>of snapshots: ones at the top level, which are updated only when the
>code changes, and ones in the daily subdirectory, which are generated
>every day and retained for seven days. The daily snapshots with
>STABLE in the name are the latest versions of the STABLE branch and
>may have some additional bug fixes over the current released version.
>The daily snapshots with CURRENT in the name are of the current
>development version.
>
>Please note: There is no guarantee that a snapshot will even compile, let
>alone function well as a news server. In particular, the CURRENT branch
>is under active development, and all sorts of things may be broken at any
>given point in time. Use snapshots with caution, and don't use snapshots
>from the CURRENT branch on any production system unless you're prepared to
>debug the inevitable problems in code that's actively changing and not yet
>thoroughly tested. (The STABLE snapshots should be fairly reliable,
>however.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.4. Where can I find documentation?
>
>INN comes with extensive documentation. See the files INSTALL and README
>at the top level of the source tree, for starters. In addition, nearly
>every program and configuration file has its own Unix man page. The best
>place to start is by reading the entire INSTALL file and then from there
>discovering which configuration files and programs do what you want to do
>and reading their individual man pages.
>
>There are HTML conversions of the documentation that comes with recent
>versions of INN available at:
>
> <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/>
>
>For additional documentation beyond what is distributed with INN, follow
>the links suggested in the above page.
>
>The documentation that comes with INN is fairly technical in nature and
>lacking in some more general details on configuring news servers. Some of
>the links off of the INN home page have additional overview documentation
>or documentation on how to set up servers for specific roles.
>
>Another good resource is the newsgroup news.software.nntp (and the Google
>archives thereof) and the archive of the inn-workers mailing list. A link
>to the latter is off the INN page referenced above.
>
>Finally, the following additional links may be useful:
>
><http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/newsserver.html>
> A tutorial on setting up INN aimed at beginners using SCO Unix. While
> it's mostly focused on SCO, it may be useful for any beginner to INN
> and news servers.
>
><http://www.kozubik.com/published/inn_tutorial.txt>
> A tutorial on setting up INN on FreeBSD. Contains a lot of
> information focused on FreeBSD and its preferred file layout, so may
> be easier to follow than the generic instructions on that platform.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.5. What newsgroups are there for INN?
>
>news.software.nntp discusses all NNTP-based news servers, including INN.
>It's the best newsgroup for technical questions and discussion. The
>newsgroup news.software.b is also chartered for such discussion, but it's
>essentially dead now. General news administration questions are also
>on-topic in news.admin.technical (moderated) and news.admin.misc
>(unmoderated).
>
>news.admin.hierarchies covers questions of general hierarchy configuration
>and is where announcements of new news hierarchies are generally posted.
>news.admin.net-abuse.* covers the topic of network abuse and prevention
>(including spam), but is not for the faint of heart; it is extremely noisy
>to the point of being essentially unreadable without a lot of time and
>patience (and a good killfile).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.6. What mailing lists are there for INN?
>
>There are several INN-related mailing lists:
>
>inn-announce@lists.isc.org
> Where announcements about INN are sent (only maintainers may post).
>
>inn-workers@lists.isc.org
> Discussion of INN development. If you prefer not to use GitHub to
> create an issue or a pull request, it is also where to send bug reports
> and patches for consideration for inclusion into INN (postings by
> members only). If you're an INN expert and have the time to help out
> other users, we encourage you to join this mailing list to answer
> questions. (You may also want to read the newsgroup
> news.software.nntp, which gets a lot of INN-related questions.)
>
>inn-committers@lists.isc.org
> Git commit messages for INN are sent to this list (only the
> automated messages are sent here, no regular posting).
>
>inn-bugs@lists.isc.org
> This list used to receive Trac issues for INN, before the migration to
> GitHub (only the automated messages were sent here, no regular
> posting). Bug reports should be sent to the inn-workers mailing list,
> or a GitHub issue created.
>
>To join these lists, send a subscription request to the `-request'
>address. The addresses for the above lists are:
>
> inn-announce-request@lists.isc.org
> inn-workers-request@lists.isc.org
> inn-committers-request@lists.isc.org
> inn-bugs-request@lists.isc.org
>
>You can alternatively join them from the subscription form in their public
>web pages:
>
> <https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/inn-announce>
> <https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/inn-workers>
> <https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/inn-committers>
> <https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/inn-bugs>
>
>inn-workers tends to be moderate volume (3-5 messages a day, but varying a
>lot depending on what's being discussed). inn-committers is occasionally
>higher volume but entirely automatically generated GitHub push
>notifications. inn-announce is a low-volume moderated list containing
>only major announcements. inn-bugs no longer has any activity.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.7. How can I support INN development?
>
>There are four major ways. First, like with any other free software
>project, a great way to support INN development is to join in yourself.
>If you know how to program and have an interest in working on a widely
>deployed and fairly intricate news server, we'd love to have your help.
>See the next question for more details.
>
>Second, even if you don't have the time or expertise to write much code,
>any contributions of documentation are *greatly* appreciated. There's
>always documentation work to be done, from maintenance of INN's technical
>documentation to tutorials and overviews for the new user or the user who
>wants to do something specific. Listen on news.software.nntp for what
>people are looking for, or ask on inn-workers. Similarly, beta testers
>are always welcome; if you have a test news server and some knowledge of
>how to diagnose server problems and want to try out the current
>development code and report any bugs you run into, that helps the
>developers immensely.
>
>Third, there are always more questions from new INN users to answer.
>news.software.nntp gets a regular stream of them, and it's a great way to
>help out intermittantly when you have a few moments to read news. If you
>can identify general solutions to frequent problems and pass them along to
>the INN maintainers in the form of documentation or suggestions, even
>better.
>
>Fourth, from the README:
>
> Note that INN is supported by Internet Systems Consortium, and
> although it is free for use and redistribution and incorporation into
> vendor products and export and anything else you can think of, it
> costs money to produce. That money comes from ISP's, hardware and
> software vendors, companies who make extensive use of the software,
> and generally kind hearted folk such as yourself.
>
> Internet Systems Consortium has also commissioned a DHCP server
> implementation and handles the official support/release of BIND. You
> can learn more about the ISC's goals and accomplishments from the web
> page at <https://www.isc.org/>.
>
>The ISC provides ftp and web space and mailing lists and archives.
>Donations to help support all of that are greatly appreciated.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 1.8. How can I contribute to INN?
>
>First, join inn-workers, since that's where all the development discussion
>takes place. The traffic isn't that high.
>
>Next, download a snapshot of the INN CURRENT branch as described above so
>that you have a relatively current source base to work from. You may want
>to check out or clone the current source from GitHub; just point a Git
>client at:
>
> https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn.git
>
>Read the HACKING file at the top of the INN source tree for some general
>information and tips for working on INN.
>
>Then pick something that looks interesting to you, mention what you're
>doing on inn-workers if it's likely to affect other parts of the
>development, and have at it! The GitHub bug tracker and the TODO file in
>the CURRENT tree have a pretty comprehensive list of things that could be
>done. Best to start with something small (getting INN to work correctly
>on a platform where it doesn't currently and which you have available is
>often a great start, or working on one of the supporting programs or
>scripts that's a bit easier to wrap one's mind around than the core INN
>daemons). Patches to INN should either be submitted as a pull request on
>GitHub or sent to inn-workers@lists.isc.org, possibly put on an ftp or web
>site somewhere and the URL sent to inn-workers if they're extremely large.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2. Terms
>
>Here are definitions of some commonly used terms related to INN. (More
>definitions are welcome; this section is extremely incomplete at the
>moment and the FAQ maintainer tends not to recognize terms that need a
>definition for people unfamiliar with INN.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2.1. What is tradspool (traditional spool)?
>
>Traditional spool is called that because it's the way that all news
>servers used to store articles. A traditional news spool is a tree of
>directories matching the hierarchical structure of newsgroups. For
>example, the newsgroup news.software.nntp would be stored in a directory
>news/software/nntp under the root of the news spool, and next to the
>"nntp" directory in news/software would be a "readers" directory for the
>group news.software.readers.
>
>As of INN 2.3, traditional spool is completely integrated into the storage
>API as the tradspool storage method and use the same overview mechanisms
>as the rest of INN.
>
>Storing articles in the traditional spool format is slow relative to other
>storage mechanisms. It's probably nearly impossible to keep up with a
>full Usenet feed using pure traditional spool. It is, however, the
>recommended storage method for low-traffic local newsgroups and any
>newsgroups that you want to back up.
>
>For more details, see the INSTALL file.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2.2. What is CNFS?
>
>CNFS is the Cyclic News File System, written by Scott Fritchie. It is a
>high-performance method of storing news articles, designed to avoid the
>high overhead involved in interacting with the file system when storing
>articles in individual files. CNFS stores articles sequentially in
>pre-configured buffer files. When the end of the buffer is reached, new
>articles are stored from the beginning of the buffer, overwriting older
>articles.
>
>It's the fastest article storage method in terms of write performance, and
>is recommended for storing binaries.
>
>For more details, see the INSTALL file.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2.3. What are timehash and timecaf?
>
>These are two less-used storage mechanisms available under the INN storage
>API (similar in that respect to CNFS). Both can usefully be thought of as
>compromises between the write speed of CNFS and the fine-grained control
>over article expiration. INSTALL says for timehash:
>
> Articles are stored as individual files as in tradspool, but are
> divided into directories based on the arrival time to ensure that no
> single directory contains so many files as to cause a bottleneck.
>
>and for timecaf:
>
> Similar to timehash, articles are stored by arrival time, but instead
> of writing a separate file for each article, multiple articles are put
> in the same file.
>
>timecaf was new in INN 2.3.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2.4. What is overview?
>
>Overview is summary information about articles in a newsgroup that is
>returned to news reading clients as a response to the OVER command. It's
>a very common extension to the NNTP protocol that allows readers to review
>summary information about articles before taking the time (and bandwidth)
>to download the entire article.
>
>The canonical items of information included in an overview record are the
>Subject, From, Date, References, and Message-ID header field bodies of the
>article, the byte count of the article, and the line count of the article.
>Nearly every server now also returns the Xref header field (a list of the
>newsgroups carried by the server to which the article was posted and the
>article number in each of those newsgroups) as an additional field.
>
>Note that with the References and Message-ID header fields, the overview
>record contains enough information to do article threading. It also
>contains all of the fields normally keyed on for client-side filtering
>(killfiles and the like).
>
>Generating overview information for a newsgroup on the fly would be
>prohibitively expensive, particularly for large groups, since the server
>daemon would have to find all of those articles and scan them to build the
>information. It would also be inefficient, since the overview information
>for a particular group will generally be requested many times by different
>clients.
>
>Any INN server that supports readers must therefore have an overview
>method configured. There are four different methods to choose from:
>
> - buffindexed, which stores overview data and index information
> into preconfigured large files like CNFS. Fast at writing, the
> buffindexed overview storage method can keep up with a large feed
> more easily and never consumes additional disk space beyond that
> allocated to these buffers. The downside is that these buffers
> are hard to recover in case of corruption and somewhat slower for
> readers and the expiry process. Also, overview data is limited to
> 8 KB per article, which may lead to the lack of integration of a few
> articles with headers of unusual length into the overview database;
>
> - ovdb, which stores overview information into a Berkeley DB database,
> whose development pace has stalled these last years. This method
> is fast and very robust, but may require more disk space, unless
> compression is enabled. Overview data is fetched one article at a
> time, which makes this method a bit slower than ovsqlite for readers;
>
> - ovsqlite, which stores overview information into an SQLite database,
> known for its long-term stability and compatibility. Robust and
> faster than ovdb at reading ranges of overview data (since overview
> data is transferred in 128-kilobyte chunks between ovsqlite-server
> and nnrpd) but somewhat slower at writing, this method may require
> more disk space, unless compression is enabled;
>
> - tradindexed, which uses two files per newsgroup, one containing
> the overview data and one containing the index. Fast for readers,
> but slow to write to because it has to update two files for each
> incoming article. Its main advantage is to be the best tested,
> the most reliable and the method with the best recovery tools
> (tdx-util).
>
>Here are a few elements that can be helpful in choosing the right
>overview method for your needs and estimating the associated storage
>size. In 2020, the volume for a full-text Usenet feed is about 18,000
>articles per day, with peaks to 1,200 articles per hour. Article storage
>size is about 65 MB per day.
>
>As for overview storage size, if you have 5 million articles, you'll
>need at least 3.25 GB of disk space for buffindexed, 5.5 GB for ovdb
>(4.5 GB if compressed), 4.65 GB for ovsqlite (2 GB if compressed),
>and 3.10 GB for tradindexed.
>
>If you store more header fields in overview data than the standard
>ones, the space needed to store overview data will be superior than
>these estimates. (This is configured in the extraoverviewadvertised
>and extraoverviewhidden inn.conf parameters.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 2.5. What are deferrals (NNTP code 431)?
>
>Consider the following situation. You have two incoming peers, both of
>which are getting ready to offer you an article in streaming mode. The
>first sends you a CHECK <message-id> message, to which you respond
>affirmatively (i.e., you don't already have the article). Then, before
>that peer sends you the article with TAKETHIS, you receive a CHECK
><message-id> from the second peer for the same message. What response
>does INN send to the second peer?
>
>If deferrals are enabled (resendid == true in incoming.conf for that peer,
>the default), INN will send a 431 deferral telling that peer that you may
>or may not want the article; try again later. Chances are that when it
>retries, you will have received the article from the first peer and you'll
>just refuse it. But if the first peer dies before it ever sends you the
>article, this way you can still get it from the second peer.
>
>If deferrals are disabled, INN will refuse the article from the second
>peer, which means there's a possibility you'll lose news if the first peer
>dies before sending you the article.
>
>As a side note, some older versions of Diablo, upon receiving a deferral,
>turn around and immediately send the article via TAKETHIS, which is
>basically exactly what you don't want. (Chances are extremely high in
>practice that the first peer will come through with the article.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3. Specific Problems
>
>This section contains specific problems that are frequently reported when
>using INN, and includes fixes or suggestions for fixes. Candidates for
>inclusion in this section are any problems reported frequently on
>news.software.nntp or inn-workers@lists.isc.org. Contributions, including
>fixes, are very welcome.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.1. INN won't start after a new installation
>
>The most common cause of this problem is that inndstart isn't setuid root
>(please note that it only affects versions prior to INN 2.5.0 because
>inndstart was removed in INN 2.5.0). inndstart must be installed owned
>by root and group news, mode 4550. The ls -l output for inndstart should
>look something like:
>
>-r-sr-x--- 1 root news 53768 Jan 8 00:47 inndstart*
>
>inndstart will automatically be installed with the right permissions if
>you run make install as root. If inndstart isn't setuid root, it will log
>errors to syslog when it tries to start and cannot. If you aren't seeing
>those error messages in syslog either, you probably haven't set up syslog
>properly (see 3.4).
>
>The other most frequent cause of this problem is not correctly following
>the instructions in INSTALL on how to set up the initial history database.
>If you run makedbz without the -o flag, the initial history database files
>will have names starting with history.n. These files must be renamed to
>remove the ".n" before innd will start.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.3. The news server isn't keeping up with incoming news
>
>Start by looking for the profile information in your nightly report. That
>will tell you where the news server is spending most of its time and may
>identify the exact nature of the problem.
>
>This problem is quite frequently due to using the traditional spool
>storage format for news articles. This storage method is now too slow to
>be able to handle a full Usenet news feed (although with a more limited
>selection of groups it can still do just fine). If your server is
>spending a lot of time writing articles and you're using traditional
>spool, this is probably the problem.
>
>One possible solution would be to switch to CNFS as a storage mechanism.
>You can do this simply by configuring CNFS (see INSTALL for details),
>changing storage.conf to direct some or all of the incoming traffic to
>CNFS buffers, and then restarting INN. Older articles will continue to be
>stored in tradspool until they expire, but new articles will go into CNFS.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.4. news.notice is empty and the nightly report is missing things
>
>You have syslog set up incorrectly.
>
>INN logs nearly everything except article trace information via syslog.
>It expects syslog to write its log messages into particular files under
>~news/log, unless you gave it a different path at configure time (see
>the pathlog parameter in inn.conf). You'll need to set up logging of
>INN-related log messages in your system /etc/syslog.conf. See the
>"Configuring syslog" section in INSTALL.
>
>Note that you don't have to worry about rotating these log files;
>news.daily (which should be run nightly from cron) will take care of that
>and innreport generates a daily summary report from them.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.5. INN is running out of file descriptors
>
>You may need to increase your system file descriptor limits. See the
>"File Descriptor Limits" section of INSTALL for more details. This is
>particularly a concern on Solaris systems, since Solaris by default has an
>exceptionally low file descriptor limit.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.6. Can't get debugging information out of INN
>
>The INN startup process is quite complicated, involving the rc.news shell
>script (and the setuid inndstart wrapper for versions of INN prior to 2.5.0).
>This can make it rather difficult to get enough debugging information out
>of it to determine what's going wrong if it's crashing immediately after
>startup or otherwise having serious difficulties.
>
>One approach is to run innd by hand directly, giving it the -d option.
>This requires setting up a configuration where innd doesn't need to bind
>to privileged ports, however.
>
>Another, sometimes better option, is move the innd binary to another name,
>like innd-real, and put a shell script in its place. Here's an example,
>from Kai Henningsen:
>
> #! /bin/bash
> # allow core dumps
> ulimit -c unlimited
> # save any output
> exec > /tmp/innd.log 2>&1
> # who are we running as, anyway?
> id
> # show exported environment
> export
> # start innd (don't forget the arguments, or it will complain)
> exec strace -o /tmp/innd.strace -f -F /path/to/innd-orig "$@"
>
>This starts innd under strace, suitable for debugging startup core dumps
>and the like. You can use this as a general model for a variety of
>debugging; for example, you could replace the strace invocation with an
>invocation of gdb and then start innd from inside gdb with the -d option.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.7. Articles aren't being sent to remote peers
>
>(This entry is based on a post by Jeffrey M. Vinocur.)
>
>Here's how to trace through INN's logs to figure out what's happened to a
>particular article. This should help you discover where the process of
>feeding an article to a peer broke down.
>
>1. First you look in the $pathlog/news file. There should be one line per
> article (search for the Message-ID, or they're in order by time of
> arrival if you know that).
>
> If you don't see a line for the article in question, your innd has
> never seen it. For articles being fed remotely, this means your peer
> didn't feed it to you. For articles being posted to your server, this
> generally indicates some sort of problem in nnrpd.
>
> (The only other time you wouldn't see a line for the article in
> question is if your innd has seen it in the past, and is considering
> this attempt a "duplicate".)
>
>2. Next, look at the second field of the line you've found in
> $pathlog/news.
>
> If it's "-", then your innd rejected the article. The reason should be
> at the end of that line.
>
>3. At this point, you should be looking at a line with "+" in the second
> field. The article should be on your server at this point.
>
> If it's not, either it's been cancelled, or has already expired.
>
>4. You're now interested in whether the article was sent to your peers.
> At the end of the same line in $pathlog/news, innd puts all of the
> peers it thinks should receive this article.
>
> If you don't see a peer you expect there, it indicates that
> $pathetc/newsfeeds is not configured in the way you think it is.
>
>5. If a peer is listed at the end of the line, the article should have
> been fed to that peer.
>
> If a peer doesn't have that article, it's possible that the article is
> spooled on your system somewhere. Check $pathoutgoing, or the
> innfeed spool if the peer is configured to use innfeed. (It's probably
> easier to look for error messages in $pathlog/news.notice than to
> actually wade around in $pathspool/innfeed.)
>
>6. If you're sure the article isn't spooled, and it doesn't show up on the
> peer, you have to consider the possibility that the peer has rejected
> the article. Alternatively, it's possible that the peer has some
> misconfiguration like the ones described above.
>
> In either case, if you're sure that the article was offered to the peer
> and not spooled, you will need the assistance of the peer's admin to
> investigate further. INN does not generally log enough information
> about outgoing articles to be able to tell more from your server alone.
>
> It may be possible to get a slight bit of information from the remote
> server by connecting with telnet (usually to port 119) and issuing
> "IHAVE <message-id>". The peer may respond with something like "435
> Duplicate" which means that the problem is not likely to be with your
> server (it may be still a problem with the article itself). If the
> peer responds with something like "335", your server probably did not
> offer the article after all.
>
> If you really are at a dead end and need to get more information about
> what's going on with an outgoing feed, you can switch it from innfeed
> to nntpsend (see INSTALL for instructions). You can then run it
> manually with innxmit -dv, which will show the full conversation with
> your remote peer.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 3.8. sendmail isn't installed
>
>Yes, INN really does require sendmail. It uses sendmail to send out the
>daily reports, mail messages to moderators, gateway news to mail, send
>statistics to the TOP1000 project, mail errors to the news administrator,
>etc. and it assumes that you have a program installed as /usr/sbin/sendmail
>or /usr/lib/sendmail that it can use to do this. It does not speak SMTP,
>nor is it likely to ever speak SMTP; it's hard enough maintaining a package
>to speak NNTP.
>
>If you need a very simple local sendmail implementation that just sends
>mail to a smarthost, there are several available (nullmailer, for
>example).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4. Error Messages
>
>Explanations of specific error messages, including solutions where
>applicable.
>
>INN logs nearly all messages to syslog, so in general these error messages
>will be found in syslog. If you aren't seeing anything from INN in syslog
>at all, make sure that you have it set up correctly (see 3.3).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4.1. innd: SERVER cant store article
>
>You probably have a misconfigured storage.conf. In current versions of
>INN, "no matching entry in storage.conf" is added to the end of this
>message unless it really is a disk I/O problem, making the cause
>considerably clearer.
>
>storage.conf(5) has this to say:
>
> If an article doesn't match any entry, either by being posted to a
> newsgroup that doesn't match any of the <wildmat> patterns or by being
> outside the size and expires ranges of all entries whose newsgroups
> pattern it does match, the article is not stored and is rejected by
> innd(8). When this happens, the error message
>
> cant store article: no matching entry in storage.conf
>
> is logged to syslog. If you want to silently drop articles matching
> certain newsgroup patterns or size or expires ranges, assign them to the
> "trash" storage method rather than having them not match any storage
> method entry.
>
>One of the more frequent causes of this problem is misuse of the expires
>key in storage.conf entries. Read the man page for storage.conf very
>carefully if you're using the expires key, since it may not do what you
>think it does. In particular, if you have a storage class that specifies
>expires with a min-time greater than 0, it won't match any article without
>an Expires header field (the vast majority of Usenet articles).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4.2. innd: SERVER internal no control and/or junk group
>
>Your active file isn't complete. Either it's been mangled by something or
>it's missing some required entries. Even if you're running a small
>stand-alone server for internal use that only carries a handful of groups,
>there are some pseudogroups used internally by INN that you have to have.
>
>Since INN isn't running (it won't start when this error occurs), you can
>edit the active file by hand without worrying about stepping on INN's
>toes. Make sure the following lines are present in the active file (if
>the numbers are different, that's fine):
>
> control 0000000000 0000000000 n
> control.cancel 0000000000 0000000000 n
> control.checkgroups 0000000000 0000000000 n
> control.newgroup 0000000000 0000000000 n
> control.rmgroup 0000000000 0000000000 n
> junk 0000000000 0000000000 n
>
>and then start INN again. The control* groups are for control messages
>(messages with a named group will be filed into it, and all other control
>messages will go into the top-level catch-all group). The n flag is so
>that users won't post messages directly to the control* groups; control
>messages should be posted to the groups that they affect instead and INN
>will refile them automatically based on the Control header field.
>
>If you have mergetogroups: set in inn.conf, you will also need to create
>a newsgroup named "to". Otherwise, you will get the following error:
>
> innd: SERVER internal no to group
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4.3. Modification of read-only value attempted (Cleanfeed)
>
>INN 2.3 and later have an internal optimization to the interface to
>embedded filters that makes filtering about 15-20% faster, but which
>disallows a trick that many versions of Cleanfeed use to count the number
>of lines in the article. (This problem is fixed in current versions of
>Cleanfeed.)
>
>To correct this problem, find the line in Cleanfeed that looks like:
>
> $lines = $hdr{'__BODY__'} =~ tr/\n/\n/;
>
>and change it to:
>
> $lines = $hdr{'__LINES__'};
>
>The __LINES__ hash value is set internally by all recent versions of INN
>and is guaranteed to be correct.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4.4. tradspool: could not open ... File exists
>
>This error generally happens after a crash or unclean shutdown of innd
>using the tradspool storage method, and is caused by overview information
>being out of sync with what articles are in the spool. When innd was
>restarted, it renumbered its active file (which determines the range of
>existing articles in each group and therefore what article number is
>assigned to new articles) based on the overview information. If there are
>newer articles already on disk that aren't mentioned in the overview
>(because the overview information for those articles hasn't been flushed
>to disk yet), new incoming articles will get assigned the same number as
>the existing article and then innd will fail to store the article and
>throttle with this error.
>
>In INN 2.4 and later when using the tradindexed overview method, you can
>solve this problem by rebuilding the overview for any affected group.
>Throttle the server (if it isn't already) and then run:
>
> tdx-util -R <path-to-articles> -n <newsgroup>
>
>where <newsgroup> is the newsgroup that INN is complaining about and
><path-to-particles> is the full path to the directory where the articles
>for that group are stored (it's generally in the error message).
>Immediately afterwards, run ctlinnd renumber for that newsgroup, and then
>unthrottle the server.
>
>The general solution to this problem, which works with any version of INN
>and any overview method, is to shut down the server, delete all of your
>overview database, and then rebuild it from your news spool with:
>
> makehistory -O -x -F
>
>This takes a long time and is to some degree overkill. For versions of
>INN prior to 2.5, you will also need to run ctlinnd renumber '' immediately
>after restarting INN.
>
>A third and better solution in some cases is to just remove all articles
>in the spool that have higher numbers than the numbers in the active file.
>Here's a Perl script that will do that. Just save this to a file, make it
>executable, and run it, giving it the path to the active file as the first
>argument and the path to the top of your tradspool news spool as the
>second argument:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> die "Usage: <name> <active> <spool-path>\n" unless @ARGV == 2;
> open (ACTIVE, $ARGV[0]) or die "Can't open $ARGV[0]: $!\n";
> while (<ACTIVE>) {
> my ($group, $hi, $lo, $flag) = split;
> my $directory = $group;
> next if ($hi == 0 and $lo <= 1);
> $directory =~ tr%.%/%;
> $directory = $ARGV[1] . '/' . $directory;
> if (-d $directory) {
> opendir (DIR, $directory) or die "Can't open $directory: $!\n";
> while (defined ($_ = readdir DIR)) {
> unlink "$directory/$_" if ($_ > $hi);
> }
> closedir DIR;
> }
> }
>
>Another alternative to find issues in your tradspool news spool is to run
>the scanspool utility. It will notably report the above too high article
>numbers.
>
>If you're not already running INN 2.4, upgrade if you can. Not only can
>you recover directly from this problem if you're using tradindexed
>overview, but INN 2.4 does a better job of flushing data to disk and is
>less likely to have this problem in the first place.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 4.5. Binary posting to non-binary group
>
>This message does not actually come from INN. It's generated by
>Cleanfeed, and if you're seeing it, that means that you have Cleanfeed
>installed. At least at one point, the default Red Hat installation of INN
>included Cleanfeed without documenting this particularly well.
>
>In order to allow binaries in your local hierarchies, you should modify
>the Cleanfeed configuration file to set bin_allowed to a regular
>expression matching the groups that should allow binaries. Please don't
>allow binary postings to regular Usenet newsgroups that you don't know
>should have binaries, as they consume large amounts of bandwidth and
>possibly disk space for other sites.
>
>For more information on Cleanfeed configuration options, see the Cleanfeed
>documentation and the comments in the default configuration file.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5. Problems on Specific Systems
>
>Problems specific to particular operating systems or platforms. Look here
>if INN doens't behave as expected on your particular system, or if you're
>having trouble compiling INN in the first place.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5.1. INN won't compile on SCO OpenServer
>
>On SCO OpenServer, it's worth noting that with a shared Perl library,
>Perl on this platform doesn't apparently generate the right link magic
>to include the path to the dynamic Perl libraries. You need to either
>set LD_RUN_PATH before building or LD_LIBRARY_PATH before running any
>binaries so that they can find the Perl libraries. (The former is
>preferred, since then the path is encoded into the binaries and you
>don't have to remember to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH later.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5.2. Using raw devices on Solaris destroys the partition table
>
>If you use slice 2, or some other disk slice that includes the entire
>disk, under Solaris as a raw partition for CNFS, you may run into this
>problem. The symptoms are that INN manages to initialize the cycbuffs
>just fine, but then gets invalid device errors when it tries to open them
>again, and the disks show up in format as needing to be repartitioned.
>
>The solution is to not use raw devices that include the first cylinder of
>the disk. Solaris doesn't protect the superblock from being overwritten
>by an application writing to raw devices and includes it in the first
>cylinder of the disk, so unless you use a slice that starts with cylinder
>1 instead of 0, INN will invalidate the partition table when it tries to
>initialize the cycbuff and all further accesses will fail until you
>repartition.
>
>Generally all that has to be done is to repartition the disk with slice 0
>starting from cylinder 1 and extending to the end of the disk and then
>point INN at slice 0 instead of slice 2. You lose some small amount of
>space, but generally not enough to care about.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5.3. Will INN work on Windows?
>
>It won't out of the box. The standard INN distribution doesn't build on
>Windows. It has, however, been built for Cygwin (a Unix-like environment
>for Windows) in the past and some of the necessary patches (although
>perhaps not all of them) have been incorporated into current INN releases.
>
>Search for http://homepage.mac.com/imeowbot/inn/ at
><http://web.archive.org/> for the previous work. Don't forget to peruse
>INSTALL if you download and want to try this.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5.4. Why aren't INN's files where the documentation says they are?
>
>INN's default installation locations are intended to be convenient for
>sysadmins adding INN to their system without disturbing other software.
>They don't match any of the standards used by various Linux distributions
>or other Unix packaging systems. Because of that, distributors who supply
>INN packages often rearrange the files and directories.
>
>Unfortunately, this is very confusing for system administrators, because
>the documentation is not updated to reflect the modified locations of
>files.
>
>You can always get the details of how your system is configured by looking
>in inn.conf at "pathnews" and similar parameters. But for convenience,
>here are comparisons of INN's default locations with some of the most
>common packages.
>
>(Data courtesy of John F. Morse.)
>
> DEFAULT DEBIAN
>pathnews: /usr/local/news /usr/lib/news
>pathbin: /usr/local/news/bin /usr/lib/news/bin
>pathcontrol: /usr/local/news/bin/control /usr/lib/news/bin/control
>pathdb: /usr/local/news/db /var/lib/news
>pathetc: /usr/local/news/etc /etc/news
>pathfilter: /usr/local/news/bin/filter /etc/news/filter
>pathhttp: /usr/local/news/http /var/www/inn
>pathlog: /usr/local/news/log /var/log/news
>pathrun: /usr/local/news/run /run/news
>pathtmp: /usr/local/news/tmp /var/spool/news/incoming/tmp
>pathspool: /usr/local/news/spool /var/spool/news
>patharchive: /usr/local/news/spool/archive /var/spool/news/archive
>patharticles: /usr/local/news/spool/articles /var/spool/news/articles
>pathincoming: /usr/local/news/spool/incoming /var/spool/news/incoming
>pathoutgoing: /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing /var/spool/news/outgoing
>pathoverview: /usr/local/news/spool/overview /var/spool/news/overview
>
> DEFAULT FEDORA
>pathnews: /usr/local/news /usr/libexec/news
>pathbin: /usr/local/news/bin /usr/libexec/news
>pathcontrol: /usr/local/news/bin/control /usr/libexec/news/control
>pathdb: /usr/local/news/db /var/lib/news
>pathetc: /usr/local/news/etc /etc/news
>pathfilter: /usr/local/news/bin/filter /usr/libexec/news/filter
>pathhttp: /usr/local/news/http /var/lib/news/http
>pathlog: /usr/local/news/log /var/log/news
>pathrun: /usr/local/news/run /run/news
>pathtmp: /usr/local/news/tmp /var/lib/news/tmp
>pathspool: /usr/local/news/spool /var/spool/news
>patharchive: /usr/local/news/spool/archive /var/spool/news/archive
>patharticles: /usr/local/news/spool/articles /var/spool/news/articles
>pathincoming: /usr/local/news/spool/incoming /var/spool/news/incoming
>pathoutgoing: /usr/local/news/spool/outgoing /var/spool/news/outgoing
>pathoverview: /usr/local/news/spool/overview /var/spool/news/overview
>
>In addition, the FreeBSD port uses the standard INN paths except that it
>puts logs in /var/log/news and pathtmp in /usr/local/news/spool/tmp.
>
>Most packages install INN's man pages into a system man directory
>(/usr/share/man or /usr/local/man) rather than into a separate man
>directory under news's home directory.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 5.5. Running INN on macOS
>
>Richard Tobin provided the following advice in news.software.nntp on
>2013-06-29 based on experience with running INN on Snow Leopard:
>
> Mac OS X, at least through the GUI, won't let you create a group with
> the same name as a user. So you can't use "news" for both.
>
> The Perl module GD isn't installed by default. GPG is not installed
> by default.
>
> You probably want to turn off Spotlight for the news spool directory.
>
> Configure didn't get the Perl compile flags right. PERL_CPPFLAGS had
> "-arch x86_64 -arch i386 -arch ppc", but on this x86_64 machine the
> files for the other architectures don't seem to be installed. I
> edited Makefile.global by hand to remove them.
>
> I needed to tell the application firewall to allow innd to accept
> incoming connections. (A window pops up to ask you, but this doesn't
> help when you're connected by ssh!)
>
> When I ran rc.news form a terminal window, it stopped working when I
> logged out. This is because of MacOS's convoluted and undocumented
> way of doing DNS lookups. Using "nohup" fixed it -- not because of
> anything to do with SIGHUP, but because nohup calls an undocumented
> function related to "vprocmgr". Running from launchd shouldn't have
> this problem, and it appears to be fixed in Mountain Lion.
>
>The Perl flags come from the Perl configuration; this problem is fixed
>with current builds of macOS.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6. How Do I...
>
>This section documents various common or uncommon tasks or configurations
>that people want to do with INN. It is mostly taken from frequently asked
>questions in news.software.nntp.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.1. Set up a server with no external feeds, just local groups
>
>The basic steps are to set up a newsfeeds file empty except for internal
>feeds like controlchan or overchan (if you're using either), have only
>localhost in incoming.conf, and start INN with the default minimal active
>file. Then, create the groups you want to carry with ctlinnd newgroup.
>Set up reading permissions using readers.conf as appropriate for your
>organization.
>
>In other words, it's very much like setting up any other instance of INN,
>but you don't bother with innfeed, nntpsend, or any of their configuration
>files. INN may also complain that you have no feeds in newsfeeds; this is
>harmless and can be ignored.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.2. Process a single control message
>
>To process a single control message, you can use controlchan from the
>command line. Just type either:
>
> echo /path/to/article-file | controlchan
>
>or:
>
> echo @token@ | controlchan
>
>if you have the storage API token of the article. (This assumes
>controlchan is in a directory in your path.) This is useful mostly for
>testing; if you just want to create, remove, or change a group, it's
>easier to use ctlinnd (newgroup, rmgroup, or changegroup).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.4. Feed all articles on a server to another server
>
>To feed all articles on an existing server to another one, regardless of
>how they're stored on the server, first tell the new server to accept
>articles regardless of how old they are (otherwise, INN will reject
>articles older than artcutoff in inn.conf) and disable your filtering:
>
> ctlinnd param c 0
> ctlinnd perl n
> ctlinnd python n
>
>Note that rejected articles are remembered during the number of days
>specified by the /remember/ line in expire.ctl; so, in case you forgot
>to change the above parameters, you'll have to wait that number of
>days before being able to inject them again. Another possibility is to
>set /remember/ to 0, run the expire process (for instance via news.daily
>called with the same parameters as in crontab, plus "notdaily"),
>undo the change in expire.ctl and then start the feed again.
>
>You may also want to set xrefslave to true in inn.conf and then restart
>INN on the new server if you want to keep the same article numbers as you
>had on the old server. (It is notably helpful for news clients because
>they otherwise get confused by an article renumbering in newsgroups they
>are subscribed to.)
>
>Next, make sure that the old server is listed in incoming.conf of the new
>server, and reload incoming.conf with ctlinnd to pick up that change.
>Also make sure that the new server carries exactly the same set of
>newsgroups as the old server.
>
>You may also want the new server not to propagate the articles it will
>receive during this feeding operation, by checking that the newsfeeds
>file of the new server is not configured to propagate articles to other
>peers or controlchan (otherwise old control articles may be reprocessed).
>
>Then try these commands (a variation on commands posted by Katsuhiro
>Kondou to inn-workers) on the old server:
>
> cd <pathdb in inn.conf>
> perl -ne 'chomp; our ($hash, $timestamps, $_) = split " "; \
> print "$_\n" if $_' history \
> | tr . / > <pathoutgoing in inn.conf>/list
> innxmit server list
>
>where <pathdb> is the path to the directory containing the history file
>(usually ~news/db), <pathoutgoing> is the path to the outgoing spool
>directory (usually ~news/spool/outgoing), and server is the name of the
>new news server to which you're feeding the articles. The result file
>contains tokens ordered by arrival time on the old server (which is
>usually roughly the same as the posting time). In case the history
>file was not populated chronologically, it is better to sort it by
>posting time so that articles are fed in the right order. This can be
>achieved with the following command:
>
> sort -t '~' -k3n < history > history.sorted
>
>And then, consider history.sorted instead of history for the next steps.
>
>If the new server has just been installed or is known not to already have
>the articles you will feed it, you may want to add the "-c" flag to
>innxmit so as to skip the check for the presence of every article before
>transferring them.
>
>In case you wish to only feed articles arrived on the old server between
>two dates, you can adapt the previous commands with a condition on the
>$arrived variable (or the $posted variable if you prefer to use the Date
>header field instead of the actual arrival time). For instance, the
>following commands will feed articles arrived between two given
>timestamps (that can be computed with the convdate utility shipped
>with INN).
>
> convdate -n '15 Apr 2014 20:42 +0200' '16 Apr 2014 12:37 +0200'
>
>returns the two corresponding timestamps 1397586540 and 1397644620 that
>can then be used to retrieve a subset of articles to feed:
>
> cd <pathdb in inn.conf>
> perl -ne 'chomp; our ($hash, $timestamps, $_) = split " "; \
> my ($arrived, $expires, $posted) = split("~", $timestamps); \
> print "$_\n" if $_ and $arrived >= 1397586540 \
> and $arrived <= 1397644620' history \
> | tr . / > <pathoutgoing in inn.conf>/list
> innxmit server list
>
>Other conditions may be added in the print line to select a subset of
>articles to feed. For instance if you want only articles for the fr.*
>hierarchy, you may add the following condition which will retrieve and
>parse the contents of the Xref field of every article to find the
>information (note that it will take some time to run, depending on the
>number of articles to parse):
>
> and qx/sm -q -H "$_" | grep Xref/ =~ / fr\.\S+:\d+/
>
>If innxmit stops transferring articles (with for instance an error like
>"rewriting batch file and exiting"), just re-execute it. The "-d" flag
>is useful to add if you want to see the feeding progress.
>
>When done, set xrefslave to false in inn.conf again if you changed it and
>then either restart INN on the new server (necessary if you changed
>xrefslave) or use another ctlinnd param command to set the cutoff value
>back to what's specified in inn.conf and use ctlinnd perl and ctlinnd
>python to reactivate your filters.
>
>Please note that when using xrefslave, this method requires that all of
>the articles in your spool have Xref header fields. Current versions of INN
>will always add an Xref header field, but very old versions (earlier 1.x
>versions) will only add an Xref header field to crossposted articles. If
>you're trying to import such a spool, you'll need to modify all of those
>articles to add an Xref header field.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.5. Rename a newsgroup
>
>INN has no native support for renaming a newsgroup, and doing so is
>difficult, so the best advice is to not do this. If there's a way that
>you can just create the new newsgroup, encourage people to start using it,
>and then remove the old newsgroup, I recommend that. It's much easier.
>
>Although it is not a renaming, it is also possible to create an alias.
>Articles cannot be posted to that newsgroup, but they can be received
>from other sites and treated as if they were actually posted to the
>group named after the equal sign. However, their Newsgroups header field
>body is not modified.
>
> ctlinnd newgroup group.to.file.under y
> ctlinnd changegroup old.group =group.to.file.under
>
>Creating an alias newsgroup is useful in case you want residual articles
>received under the old newsgroup name to be filed into the new group.
>
>As for a renaming, if it really must be done, it's best if you're using
>the tradspool storage method. The newsgroup of an article is stored in
>the Newsgroups header field and in the Xref header field of the article
>as stored on disk (and possibly in Followup-To), as well as determining
>where the overview information is stored, and in the case of tradspool
>is also encoded in the article's storage token. To rename a newsgroup
>in tradspool, stop the server, move the directory containing all of
>the articles to its appropriate new location in the news spool, edit
>every article to change the old name to the new name in Newsgroups,
>Followup-To, and Xref, create the new newsgroup with ctlinnd newgroup,
>and then rebuild history and overview with makehistory.
>
>The following bit of Perl may help with the renaming (from Jeffrey
>Vinocur):
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -wi
> my ($src, $dst) = (shift, shift);
> die "Usage: $0 oldgroup newgroup [file1 [file2 ...]]\n"
> unless(defined $dst);
> while(<>) {
> s/$src/$dst/g if 1 .. /^$/ and /^(Newsgroups|Followup-To|Xref):/i;
> print;
> } continue {
> close ARGV if eof;
> }
>
>Note that this may cause some problems if the newsgroup you're renaming is
>contained in the name of another newsgroup to which messages in that group
>are crossposted. If that's a problem, you may have to use a more
>sophisticated script.
>
>If any articles were crossposted to other newsgroups, you'll also have to
>find and recreate the links in those newsgroups to the new location of the
>articles (if the links were hard links and the process of changing the
>Xref, Followup-To, Newsgroups header fields didn't break those links, you
>may be lucky and be able to skip this).
>
>If you're using another storage method, this is harder, although with
>timehash you may be able to just change the Newsgroups, Xref, Followup-To
>header fields of the articles in that newsgroup and then rebuild history
>and overview as above.
>
>One other approach that can be used regardless of storage method is to
>refeed the articles to the server into a new newsgroup. This approach
>works best if you're also changing news servers at the same time;
>otherwise, the message IDs of the articles will already be in history, and
>you'll have to change the message IDs of all of the messages or remove
>them from the history database (such as by moving the articles away,
>changing /remember/ to 0 so that old history entries won't be retained,
>and then running expire to purge them out of history). To do this, get
>all of the messages into a directory (by pulling them down via NNTP or
>some other method), change the Newsgroups, Xref, and Followup-To header
>fields to rename the newsgroup, and then create a file containing paths to
>all of the articles, one per line. You can then use that file as input to
>innxmit, pointing it at the server to which to feed the articles, and if
>the articles aren't listed in history on that server and it carries the
>new group, they will be accepted into the new newsgroup.
>
>Note that if you use this method and something goes wrong the first time,
>the message IDs will probably have all been added to history on the new
>server and the articles now will never be accepted until those entries are
>removed from history again (or all the message IDs changed).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.6. Change the domain used for message IDs
>
>By default, any message identifier generated by INN will use the fully
>qualified domain name of the local system for the right-hand side of
>message IDs. In some cases, this isn't desirable for various reasons
>(the server may have an internal name that doesn't make sense on Usenet
>at large, or one may not want to expose the name of the server).
>
>INN still does not have a dedicated parameter to change the right-hand
>side of message identifiers. While waiting for it, there's a trick
>involving a special use of the domain: parameter (normally meant to be
>use only for what is related to DNS).
>
>In INN 2.7.1 and later, you can use an explicit domain: key in an access
>stanza of readers.conf to use its value as the right-hand side of message
>identifiers. (Even though domain: is set in inn.conf, note that this
>parameter also needs being present in readers.conf so as to trigger the
>expected behaviour).
>
>In INN 2.3.3 and later, you can set virtualhost: to true in an access
>stanza of readers.conf and then set domain: in the same stanza, and all
>posts coming from connections to which that access stanza applies will
>use that domain to generate message IDs. So if you need to change the
>domain used to generate message IDs for every local post from your
>server, just add virtualhost: and domain: keys to every access stanza
>in readers.conf. (Yes, this is really overkill for this option.)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.7. Use INN without a direct news feed
>
>INN is designed to be used as a regular news server, receiving direct news
>feeds from other news servers and sending news directly to other news
>servers using the peer-to-peer portions of the NNTP protocol. However,
>it is also possible to use INN as, in essence, a local cache for a news
>server that you can use to read and post but which doesn't treat your
>server like a peer.
>
>This configuration is generally called a "suck" feed, because rather than
>having news fed directly to your server, you pull it down or "suck" it
>from another news server, and because possibly the first and one of the
>most widely used packages for doing this is named suck.
>
>INN comes with a program named pullnews to pull down articles from another
>server and to feed articles to another server using either POST like a news
>reader or peer-to-peer commands. See the pullnews manual page for more
>information.
>
>Alternately, you can use an external package to do this. The two most
>popular are suck and newsx; however, they are no longer actively
>maintained. You may still be able to find a package in your local
>distribution or package repository.
>
>Note that current versions of INN refer to articles internally using a
>storage API token, not a path name, which is not always what suck or newsx
>expects. Read the documentation carefully; you'll need to use a script or
>configuration that retrieves articles using the sm program that comes with
>INN rather than trying to open files directly.
>
>It's also worth noting that INN is a fairly complex package, and while
>many people are running it successfully using this sort of configuration
>and like having a full-fledged news server available to them, other people
>have found INN rather complicated and difficult to configure for a small,
>simple personal news cache. If your needs and goals are simple and the
>number of groups you're interested in is small, you may be better off with
>a smaller, lighter package such as LeafNode or NNTPcache.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.8. Generate MRTG graphs for INN
>
>INN's CNFS storage system has direct support for producing information
>suitable for MRTG graphs on the usage of the CNFS cycbuffs. Running
>cnfsstat -m <cycbuf> will generate output suitable for MRTG, and running
>cnfsstat -p will generate sample MRTG configuration fragments for each
>cycbuff.
>
>To generate MRTG graphs of the usage of the buffindexed overview system,
>try the following configuration fragment:
>
> Target[overview-BUFF]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/overview.sh`
> MaxBytes[overview-BUFF]: 100
> Title[overview-BUFF]: BUFF1 Usage
> Options[overview-BUFF]: growright gauge
> YLegend[overview-BUFF]: Overview Buffers
> ShortLegend[overview-BUFF]: %
> PageTop[overview-BUFF]: <H1>Usage of Overview Buffers</H1>
> <BR><TT>overview</TT>
>
>where the overview.sh script is:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "100"
> <pathbin in inn.conf>/inndf -o | awk '{print $1}'
> echo "0"
> echo "overview"
>
>This sample configuration is from Basil Kruglov. Note that you can
>instead use -n (for total count of articles); in that case, you'll want to
>remove the MaxBytes setting above or change it to be some sensible limit
>on the total number of articles you receive. You'll also want to change a
>few of the other labels in the MRTG configuration.
>
>I'm not aware of any packaged solutions for generating MRTG data from
>other things, such as incoming or outcoming news flows. If anyone has any
>pointers, let me know.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.9. Hide the junk and control groups from users
>
>The junk, control, and control.cancel groups must exist in the active file
>for the proper operation of INN, so you can't remove the groups entirely.
>You can, however, hide them completely from users.
>
>To do this, edit readers.conf, and for each user access group where you
>want to hide the junk and control groups, add "!junk,!control,!control.*"
>to the newsgroups pattern. In other words, if you have a line like:
>
> newsgroups: *
>
>just change that to:
>
> newsgroups: *,!junk,!control,!control.*
>
>If you use read and post patterns instead, do the same for each of them
>individually. The groups will then no longer show up on the server for
>users to which that access group applies; it will be as if they do not
>exist.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.10. Modify the body of posts made through my server
>
>You can't without either making code changes to INN or putting your own
>software in the path of incoming posts. This is intentional.
>
>Some sites like to try to append a standard signature to all posts through
>their service, generally as advertising. This creates the appearance of
>users saying things that they didn't, runs the risk of corrupting messages
>by appending text without regard to what's in the message, and can possibly
>modify messages that arrive via a suck/rpost or pullnews/rnews connection.
>It also adds advertising in an obnoxious location, rather than in the
>Organization header field which is more widely used for that purpose.
>Accordingly, INN does not support this, or any other modification of the
>body of a message from inside the news server.
>
>If you only want to do this for a private hierarchy, the easiest way to do
>this (as well as any other modifications and internal filtering that you
>want to perform) is to mark all of the groups as moderated and route all
>submissions through a script that makes whatever modifications you want
>and then posts the messages with an Approved header field.
>
>If you want to do this in order to advertise your service, please
>reconsider. You can add your advertisements to the headers, like many
>other news service providers.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.11. Hide the Injection-Info header field
>
>There is no built-in support for suppressing generation of the
>Injection-Info header field. You can, however, remove it from inside
>a Perl posting filter. Try using a posting filter like this:
>
> sub filter_post {
> $modify_headers = 1;
> delete $hdr{'Injection-Info'};
> return '';
> }
>
>Note that you have to set $modify_headers to make changes to the article
>header field effective in the actual posted article. Instead of removing
>the header field, you can also alter it if you modify
>$hdr{'Injection-Info'}. If you only want to alter the host name used in
>Injection-Info, see the domain: parameter in readers.conf (and virtualhost:
>for INN 2.7.0 and earlier).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.12. Run innd and nnrpd on separate ports
>
>Originally, innd was designed to handle all incoming connections and hand
>them off to nnrpd as appropriate. It is, however, becoming increasingly
>common to run innd and nnrpd on separate ports for a variety of reasons,
>such as wanting to handle connections to nnrpd with a smart network
>connection handling daemon like xinetd that can do things like rate
>limiting of connections. INN does support this configuration, but be
>warned that since you need to run nnrpd on port 119 for most reader
>clients to be able to find it, you'll need to tell all of your news peers
>to use a different port to feed you news.
>
>The recommended alternate port for innd transit-only connections is port
>433, which has been reserved for that purpose. If you want to use some
>low-numbered port (less than 1024) other than 119 or 433 for innd, you
>will need to build INN with the --with-innd-port option specifying that
>port.
>
>Now, set port in inn.conf to the port you want to run innd on and add
>noreader: true (so that innd will never attempt to hand connections off to
>nnrpd). Then, restart INN. It will now be listening on the new port.
>You should now set up nnrpd to run via xinetd, inetd, tcpserver, or
>some other similar network connection handling daemon on port 119. Make
>sure that nnrpd is run as the news user, not as root. You don't have to
>pass any arguments to nnrpd (unless you want to).
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.13. Back up and restore an INN installation
>
>(This entry is based on a post by Jeffrey M. Vinocur.)
>
>For a full backup, you need, at a minimum, to save all of the articles in
>$patharticles, the configuration files in $pathetc, and the active and
>newsgroup files in $pathdb. If you have any custom filters you've
>installed, or a cleanfeed.local file, you'll want to keep that, as well as
>any custom authentication programs or files you're using (like a password
>file for news accounts). You may also want to save HTML versions of the
>news.daily reports, if you've been generating them, and you may want to
>look at the first few lines of config.status in your original source tree
>so that you can be sure to use the same options to configure.
>
>Note that most people only back up those portions of the news spool that
>they retain for a long time (like local hierarchies) and don't bother with
>all the regular Usenet articles.
>
>It's considerably easier to back up and restore articles from tradspool
>than any other storage mechanism, and it's quite hard to back up and
>restore timecaf or CNFS. Remember that you can use different storage
>methods for different articles. I highly recommend saving the hierarchies
>you want to back up in tradspool and use the higher-performance storage
>mechanisms for news you don't care as much about.
>
>To restore a single newsgroup using tradspool and the tradindexed overview
>method, you can just restore the articles into the news spool and then
>rebuild overview for just that group with tdx-util -R.
>
>Otherwise, for more general restorations, compile INN on the new system
>with the same ./configure command if you've lost the installation, run
>make install, then put all the pieces back where they belong. Now, you
>have to run:
>
> makehistory -O
>
>to rebuild the history and overview databases. When that finishes, cd to
>the $pathdb directory and run:
>
> makedbz -s `wc -l < history` -o
>
>You should now be able to start the server and read and post news to it.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: 6.14. Find external feeds and set up peering
>
>One way to find peers is to ask for an external feed in the
>news.admin.peering newsgroup. Some news administrators read that group
>and may be willing to peer. It's common for news administrators to have
>different criteria for peering (specific hierarchies, geographic or
>network proximity, spam filtering, no binaries, binaries, specific network
>protocols; the variation is endless), so finding someone with matching
>goals may require some patience and possibly some configuration changes.
>And why not keep subscribed to this newsgroup to help others find a news
>feed once you get yours?
>
>You will then have to configure your new feed in incoming.conf, newsfeeds
>and innfeed.conf (assuming you'll use innfeed, the most common way to feed
>articles). Follow the examples in the manual pages of these configuration
>files.
>
>If you need importing old articles, you may want to use pullnews. See its
>manual page for more information about how to use it.


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From: eagle@eyrie.org (Russ Allbery)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: INN 2.x FAQ
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:11:14 -0700
Organization: The Eyrie
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 by: Russ Allbery - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 17:11 UTC

"floffy@gallaxial.com" <floffy@gallaxial.com> writes:

> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....

People have gotten INN working with Cygwin in the past, but it's been
quite a while and it probably doesn't work any more. INN is very heavily
POSIX-based and would require substantial amounts of care and feeding to
get it to work on Windows, and my experience in the past with keeping such
a port of UNIX software working over time has not been positive. It tends
to be very intrusive in the source code.

The more interesting question now is whether INN would work on the Windows
Subsystem for Linux (WSL). That's much more likely, since WSL is
essentially a virtual Ubuntu system. This may still be too Linux-y for
your needs, but it would be much more likely to work than trying to run
INN as a native Windows application.

--
Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Please post questions rather than mailing me directly.
<https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.

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From: conanospamic@gmail.com (Eric M)
 by: Eric M - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 21:56 UTC

Le 24/03/2024 à 18:11, Russ Allbery a écrit :

> The more interesting question now is whether INN would work on the Windows
> Subsystem for Linux (WSL). That's much more likely, since WSL is
> essentially a virtual Ubuntu system. This may still be too Linux-y for
> your needs, but it would be much more likely to work than trying to run
> INN as a native Windows application.

I tested it and INN works on WSL, but of course you need to have WSL open
all the time.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 10:56 UTC

floffy@gallaxial.com <floffy@gallaxial.com> wrote:

[Probably about INN 2.X:]

> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....

What do you want to use it for?

If it's just for your personal use, not to also offer access for
others, you might consider Hamster, which is a personal news server,
which sits between your newsreader and your 'real' (NSP, News Service
Provider) news server.

Hamster is very old (2006) software, but it works just fine. This
response is posted to/by Hamster running on my Winddows 11 laptop.

'Hamster "Classic"'
<http://www.tglsoft.de/freeware_hamster.html>

This webpage is in German, but Google Translate can translate that for
you, if needed.

And maybe there are still other sites for Hamster, maybe also for
other (than the "Classic") versions.

HTH.

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 by: D - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 12:35 UTC

On 26 Mar 2024 10:56:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>floffy@gallaxial.com <floffy@gallaxial.com> wrote:
>[Probably about INN 2.X:]
>> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....
>
> What do you want to use it for?
> If it's just for your personal use, not to also offer access for
>others, you might consider Hamster, which is a personal news server,
>which sits between your newsreader and your 'real' (NSP, News Service
>Provider) news server.
> Hamster is very old (2006) software, but it works just fine. This
>response is posted to/by Hamster running on my Winddows 11 laptop.
>'Hamster "Classic"'
><http://www.tglsoft.de/freeware_hamster.html>
> This webpage is in German, but Google Translate can translate that for
>you, if needed.
> And maybe there are still other sites for Hamster, maybe also for
>other (than the "Classic") versions.
> HTH.

popular newsgroups, hamster.de.config, hamster.de.misc, hamster.de.tools;
and as everyone knows, the 40tude dialog newsreader uses hamster scoring

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 by: candycanearter07 - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:17 UTC

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote at 10:56 this Tuesday (GMT):
> floffy@gallaxial.com <floffy@gallaxial.com> wrote:
>
> [Probably about INN 2.X:]
>
>> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....
>
> What do you want to use it for?
>
> If it's just for your personal use, not to also offer access for
> others, you might consider Hamster, which is a personal news server,
> which sits between your newsreader and your 'real' (NSP, News Service
> Provider) news server.
>
> Hamster is very old (2006) software, but it works just fine. This
> response is posted to/by Hamster running on my Winddows 11 laptop.
>
> 'Hamster "Classic"'
><http://www.tglsoft.de/freeware_hamster.html>
>
> This webpage is in German, but Google Translate can translate that for
> you, if needed.
>
> And maybe there are still other sites for Hamster, maybe also for
> other (than the "Classic") versions.
>
> HTH.

If you want to try a more complex (and powerful) fetcher, you could also
try setting up leafnode.
--
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 by: floffy@gallaxial.com - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:44 UTC

On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:35:02 +0100 (CET), D <J@M> wrote:

>On 26 Mar 2024 10:56:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>floffy@gallaxial.com <floffy@gallaxial.com> wrote:
>>[Probably about INN 2.X:]
>>> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....
>>
>> What do you want to use it for?
>> If it's just for your personal use, not to also offer access for
>>others, you might consider Hamster, which is a personal news server,
>>which sits between your newsreader and your 'real' (NSP, News Service
>>Provider) news server.
>> Hamster is very old (2006) software, but it works just fine. This
>>response is posted to/by Hamster running on my Winddows 11 laptop.
>>'Hamster "Classic"'
>><http://www.tglsoft.de/freeware_hamster.html>
>> This webpage is in German, but Google Translate can translate that for
>>you, if needed.
>> And maybe there are still other sites for Hamster, maybe also for
>>other (than the "Classic") versions.
>> HTH.
>
>popular newsgroups, hamster.de.config, hamster.de.misc, hamster.de.tools;
>and as everyone knows, the 40tude dialog newsreader uses hamster scoring

I use a very old Software Call DNEWS its Working only on WinXP or Before
I use a VM , have a good filtering system , multi software processor or
something like that , i also use newsplex Filter Nothing !

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 by: floffy@gallaxial.com - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:46 UTC

On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:17:38 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote at 10:56 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> floffy@gallaxial.com <floffy@gallaxial.com> wrote:
>>
>> [Probably about INN 2.X:]
>>
>>> Does have a fork for windows , i am very not good in linux ....
>>
>> What do you want to use it for?
>>
>> If it's just for your personal use, not to also offer access for
>> others, you might consider Hamster, which is a personal news server,
>> which sits between your newsreader and your 'real' (NSP, News Service
>> Provider) news server.
>>
>> Hamster is very old (2006) software, but it works just fine. This
>> response is posted to/by Hamster running on my Winddows 11 laptop.
>>
>> 'Hamster "Classic"'
>><http://www.tglsoft.de/freeware_hamster.html>
>>
>> This webpage is in German, but Google Translate can translate that for
>> you, if needed.
>>
>> And maybe there are still other sites for Hamster, maybe also for
>> other (than the "Classic") versions.
>>
>> HTH.
>
>
>If you want to try a more complex (and powerful) fetcher, you could also
>try setting up leafnode.

Yes, But i am not a user of Linux other wise long time i will change to it
Command line on linus , i do not known What to write , how to write
how to install where to install (Handle it) etc ....

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