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* IMAP NNTP gatewaykyonshi
+* Re: IMAP NNTP gatewayAndrew Rump
|`* Re: IMAP NNTP gatewaykyonshi
| `* Re: IMAP NNTP gatewayJulien ÉLIE
|  `- Re: IMAP NNTP gatewaykyonshi
+- Re: IMAP NNTP gatewayMarkus Schaaf
`- Re: IMAP NNTP gatewayGrant Taylor

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IMAP NNTP gateway

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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (kyonshi)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap,news.software.nntp
Subject: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: kyonshi - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:18 UTC

Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be neat
if I could have that as an option.

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From: lar-secure@rump.dk (Andrew Rump)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: Andrew Rump - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:25 UTC

kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:
>Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
>server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
>IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be neat
>if I could have that as an option.

Why do you want that? It would be possible to implement some kind of gateway but it would require a lot of disc space and every time a group explodes you will drown in unread messages!
Why not just use a news client - and maybe the respberry as a proxy - if that make sense after you explained why you want to do it in the first place.

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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (kyonshi)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: kyonshi - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:29 UTC

On 3/14/2024 1:25 PM, Andrew Rump wrote:
> kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:
>> Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
>> server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
>> IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be neat
>> if I could have that as an option.
>
> Why do you want that? It would be possible to implement some kind of gateway but it would require a lot of disc space and every time a group explodes you will drown in unread messages!
> Why not just use a news client - and maybe the respberry as a proxy - if that make sense after you explained why you want to do it in the first place.

I have installed nextcloud on the rpi as a private file storage/talk
board. Nextcloud also has an IMAP Mail interface. So I was thinking if I
could maybe connect my installation of INN (as yet not configured) to it
so I could read news by just going on my nextcloud page.

Re: IMAP NNTP gateway

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From: mschaaf@elaboris.de (Markus Schaaf)
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Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: Markus Schaaf - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:08 UTC

Am 14.03.24 um 13:18 schrieb kyonshi:
> Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
> server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
> IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be neat
> if I could have that as an option.

Cyrus IMAP can do this.
https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/nntp.html

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From: iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid (Julien ÉLIE)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:05 UTC

Hi kyonshi,

>>> Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
>>> server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
>>> IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be neat
>>> if I could have that as an option.
>
> I have installed nextcloud on the rpi as a private file storage/talk
> board. Nextcloud also has an IMAP Mail interface. So I was thinking if I
> could maybe connect my installation of INN (as yet not configured) to it
> so I could read news by just going on my nextcloud page.

INN comes with a program named imapfeed which can feed news articles to
an IMAP server.

In your newsfeeds file:

localimapserver\
:*\
:Tm:imapfeed!

imapfeed!\
:!*\
:Tc,Wnm*,S16384:/usr/bin/news/imapfeed

and set the corresponding localimapserver entry in your innfeed.conf
file. You'll see in the innfeed.conf manual page the deliver-*
parameters which can be used for that entry.

I've never tested imapfeed so I hope it still works fine with current
IMAP implementations. In any case, if you try it, I'll be glad to hear
your feedback.

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Le bonheur, c'est vouloir ce que l'on a. »

Re: IMAP NNTP gateway

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From: gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.imap,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:11:08 -0500
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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 15 Mar 2024 02:11 UTC

On 3/14/24 07:18, kyonshi wrote:
> I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail server, which made me
> think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via IMAP?

I don't remember what IMAP server it was, but I know that one I've
looked at in the past did provide access to the news spool on the server
using a separate news name space.

It might have been Cyrus, but the little bit I've read about this
evening doesn't jive with what I remember. Reading this evening makes
me think that Cyrus wants to be the NNTP server to receive the articles.
Conversely I remember reading about an IMAP server that accessed a
different news daemon's news spool, ostensibly a traditional spool
(tradspool) for INN.

--
Grant. . . .

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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (kyonshi)
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Subject: Re: IMAP NNTP gateway
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 by: kyonshi - Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:47 UTC

On 3/14/2024 6:05 PM, Julien ÉLIE wrote:
> Hi kyonshi,
>
>>>> Ok, short question: I was thinking of using my raspberry as a mail
>>>> server, which made me think: is there a way to get nntp newsgroups via
>>>> IMAP? I didn't look too deep into the software yet, but it would be
>>>> neat
>>>> if I could have that as an option.
>>
>> I have installed nextcloud on the rpi as a private file storage/talk
>> board. Nextcloud also has an IMAP Mail interface. So I was thinking if
>> I could maybe connect my installation of INN (as yet not configured)
>> to it so I could read news by just going on my nextcloud page.
>
> INN comes with a program named imapfeed which can feed news articles to
> an IMAP server.
>
> In your newsfeeds file:
>
>     localimapserver\
>         :*\
>         :Tm:imapfeed!
>
>     imapfeed!\
>         :!*\
>         :Tc,Wnm*,S16384:/usr/bin/news/imapfeed
>
> and set the corresponding localimapserver entry in your innfeed.conf
> file.  You'll see in the innfeed.conf manual page the deliver-*
> parameters which can be used for that entry.
>
> I've never tested imapfeed so I hope it still works fine with current
> IMAP implementations.  In any case, if you try it, I'll be glad to hear
> your feedback.
>

I...was absolutely not aware that this was a thing. I thought I had read
through most of INN's configuration, but I guess I missed that part.
If that's the case I will just see what it can do.

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