cricket wrote:
> Unredacted documents in Arizona�s lawsuit against Google show
> that company executives and engineers were aware that the search
> giant had made it hard for smartphone users to keep location
> information private, Insider reported.

It's only a surprise to these gormless Apple crybabies that the big
companies (including Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, Amazon, Facebook, you name
it) spy on us and make it hard for us to not be spied upon.

This clueless "cricket" posted the same thing many times in the Android
newsgroup under the nym of "Alan Baker" (well after the Android newsgroup
discussed the matter separately in a manner that was constructive).

We remove the Google Account if we want.
We fake our GPS location if we want.
We set our defaults to non Google apps if we want.
We set our default browser to any browser we want.
We set our default voice assistant to anyone we want.
We add automation and quick shortcuts to reset any setting we want.
We use any app store we want to get our apps from.
and so on.

We're constructive. Not destructive.
We know the big companies spy on us and we deal with it appropriately.

If you drop low enough to bother to respond to this "cricket" (aka Alan
Baker) please remove the Android newsgroup which has already discussed this
in a constructive manner (as in how to set the phone up properly) without
even mentioning the iPhone because the Android newsgroup isn't a crybaby
newsgroup.

We just set up our phone to do what we want.
You can't do that on an iPhone (and don't even try to claim you can).

His rant is mostly for the clueless iPhone users & not Android users.

Unredacted documents in Arizona�s lawsuit against Google show
that company executives and engineers were aware that the search
giant had made it hard for smartphone users to keep location
information private, Insider reported.

The documents suggest that Google collected location data even
after users had turned off location sharing, and made privacy
settings difficult for users to find. Insider also reports that
the documents show Google pressured phone manufacturers into
keeping privacy settings hidden, because the settings were
popular with users.

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich filed a lawsuit against
Google last May, alleging the company illegally tracked Android
users� location without their consent, even if users had
disabled location tracking features. The lawsuit suggested
Google kept location tracking running in the background for some
features, and only stopped the practice when users disabled
system-level tracking.

The unredacted documents show one Google employee asked if there
was �no way to give a third party app your location and not
Google?� adding that it didn�t sound like something the company
would want revealed to the media, according to Insider.

Google spokesperson Jos� Casta�eda said in an email to The Verge
that Brnovich �and our competitors driving this lawsuit have
gone out of their way to mischaracterize our services. We have
always built privacy features into our products and provided
robust controls for location data. We look forward to setting
the record straight."

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/29/22460070/google-difficult-
android-privacy-settings-arizona

In article <3db944589722f1477288039607d3c971@dizum.com>
"cricket" <invalid@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
> Unredacted documents in Arizona�s lawsuit against Google show
> that company executives and engineers were aware that the search
> giant had made it hard for smartphone users to keep location
> information private, Insider reported.
>
> The documents suggest that Google collected location data even
> after users had turned off location sharing, and made privacy
> settings difficult for users to find. Insider also reports that
> the documents show Google pressured phone manufacturers into
> keeping privacy settings hidden, because the settings were
> popular with users.
>
> Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich filed a lawsuit against
> Google last May, alleging the company illegally tracked Android
> users� location without their consent, even if users had
> disabled location tracking features. The lawsuit suggested
> Google kept location tracking running in the background for some
> features, and only stopped the practice when users disabled
> system-level tracking.
>
> The unredacted documents show one Google employee asked if there
> was �no way to give a third party app your location and not
> Google?� adding that it didn�t sound like something the company
> would want revealed to the media, according to Insider.
>
> Google spokesperson Jos� Casta�eda said in an email to The Verge
> that Brnovich �and our competitors driving this lawsuit have
> gone out of their way to mischaracterize our services. We have
> always built privacy features into our products and provided
> robust controls for location data. We look forward to setting
> the record straight."
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/29/22460070/google-difficult-
> android-privacy-settings-arizona

We are all whores for free stuff.

Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote on 31.05.2021 03:38
> We are all whores for free stuff.

Take a look at what recently unredacted documents show for location privacy
https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/05/30/court-documents-show-google-intentionally-hid-privacy-controls/

This applies to both iOS & Android (using Google Maps).

Specifically page 14 of this PDF which discussed specifically that
Google tracking on iOS/Android was so good that people would be "surprised"
(which, to Google, was _not_ a good thing at all!) at how good it was!
https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2021-05/Berlin_Exhibit_69.pdf

Example 1:
Person lives in a shared house. Has opted his phone out of Google location
(phone is anonymous). Opens Google Maps. Suddenly Google maps has
house-level accurate location. User is left wondering: How does Google know
my location? I thought I said no location tracking?

Example 2:
iOS user in same shared house. Goes to google.com and says "I don't want
google.com to use my location" a few days before. But yet, we _do_ know
exactly their location and we _can_ use it. User is left wondering: What?
I thought I told Google it was not allowed to use my location?