------------------------------
$ firefox

2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
"/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
------------------------------

What gives here? The home in question is ubsu3
in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3

/home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory

--
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Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png

bad sector wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
> $ firefox
>
> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
> ------------------------------
>
> What gives here? The home in question is ubsu3
> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>
> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>
> --
> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>
>
Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory

Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771

On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:

> bad sector wrote:
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> $ firefox
>>
>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> What gives here? The home in question is ubsu3
>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>
>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>
>> --
>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>
>>
> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>
> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771

I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
the others work fine?

Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
I use work just fine with a linked home.

bad sector wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>
>> bad sector wrote:
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> $ firefox
>>>
>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> What gives here? The home in question is ubsu3
>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>
>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>
>>> --
>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>
>>>
>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>
>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>
> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
> the others work fine?
>
> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>
List Installed Snaps
https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4

Andrei Z. wrote:
> bad sector wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>
>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> $ firefox
>>>>
>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>
>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>
>>>
>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>
>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>> the others work fine?
>>
>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>
> List Installed Snaps
> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>
>

I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
deb. Instructions worked for me:

<https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 2022-09-24 12:03, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Andrei Z. wrote:
>> bad sector wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>
>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> $ firefox
>>>>>
>>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>>
>>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>>
>>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>>
>>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>>> the others work fine?
>>>
>>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>>
>> List Installed Snaps
>> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>
> I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
> deb. Instructions worked for me:
>
> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>

....done, thanks

On 9/24/2022 7:58 PM, bad sector wrote:
> On 2022-09-24 12:03, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Andrei Z. wrote:
>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> $ firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>>>
>>>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>>>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>>>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>>>> the others work fine?
>>>>
>>>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>>>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>>>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>>>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>>>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>>>
>>> List Installed Snaps
>>> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>>
>> I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
>> deb. Instructions worked for me:
>>
>> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>
>
> ...done, thanks

If you purge snap completely (as originally suggested some time ago),
well now some desktop environment is in the "snap list". Purging all
of snap would take that away too.

The recipe you just followed, surgically extricated Firefox from the
mess, leaving the other snap table-scraps alone.

At one time, you could purge all of snap, and it was not boobytrapped.
You would need a lot more care to escape today. Maybe use Unity
first, log in with Unity, then purge snap. But if the Firefox thing
works for you, then it's probably not worth making a campaign out
of this. I think there's at least one video editor that's in snap now.
Given the complexity of a video editor, I bet snap could mess
that up too.

Paul

On 9/25/22 1:55 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 9/24/2022 7:58 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 2022-09-24 12:03, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>> Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> $ firefox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>>>>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>>>>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>>>>> the others work fine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>>>>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>>>>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>>>>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>>>>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>>>>
>>>> List Installed Snaps
>>>> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>>>
>>> I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
>>> deb. Instructions worked for me:
>>>
>>> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>>
>>
>> ...done, thanks
>
> If you purge snap completely (as originally suggested some time ago),
> well now some desktop environment is in the "snap list". Purging all
> of snap would take that away too.
>
> The recipe you just followed, surgically extricated Firefox from the
> mess, leaving the other snap table-scraps alone.
>
> At one time, you could purge all of snap, and it was not boobytrapped.
> You would need a lot more care to escape today. Maybe use Unity
> first, log in with Unity, then purge snap. But if the Firefox thing
> works for you, then it's probably not worth making a campaign out
> of this. I think there's at least one video editor that's in snap now.
> Given the complexity of a video editor, I bet snap could mess
> that up too.
>
>    Paul

Unless snap becomes YET ANOTHER MICROCANCERISH PARASITE FAD, of which at
this early stage I see no evidence, I have no dog in the fight. But I
will help to exterminate any monopolistic tendency in the bud. My reason
for installing Ubuntu-Studio was the miserably poor 'music' showing in
too many other distros, I can remove it from my computer and not even
notice it's gone (although I would MUCH rather see in it a sane distro
that in the company very few other 'studio' rigs gives me what "I"
want). What *IS* bad news is that the level of minimal commonality that
I want among distros that I install is still short so ANY divergence in
an opposite direction (snap's refusal to cater to remotely linked
folders) is a clear deal-breaker from my perspective. The day when I can
no longer handle any one of my essential apps (Firefox in this case)
essentially the same way on one distro as I do on most others then that
distro leaves. I'm not there yet, glad to notice :-)

--
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AvLinux-MX (Wildflower), Kernel=5.19.0-4.2-liquorix-amd64
on x86_64, DM=Unknown, DE=XFCE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
https://i.imgur.com/7zzhmRi.png

On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:58:31 -0400, bad sector wrote:

> On 2022-09-24 12:03, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Andrei Z. wrote:
>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> $ firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>>>
>>>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>>>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>>>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>>>> the others work fine?
>>>>
>>>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>>>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>>>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>>>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>>>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>>>
>>> List Installed Snaps
>>> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>>
>> I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
>> deb. Instructions worked for me:
>>
>> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>
>
> ...done, thanks

I probably inadvertently allowed the system to reinstall
the snap firefox by responding to an upgrade invite. Now
if I try the workaround again I get

dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_105.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
cannot copy extracted data for './usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so' to '/usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so.dpkg-new': unexpected end of file or stream
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_105.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_amd64.deb

I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
could become a nightmare :-(

On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:58:31 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>
>> On 2022-09-24 12:03, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>> Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:48:41 +0300, Andrei Z. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> $ firefox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2022/09/24 08:12:24.146015 cmd_run.go:616: WARNING:
>>>>>>> XAUTHORITY environment value is not a clean path:
>>>>>>> "/0/dx/homes/ubsu3/.Xauthority" cannot create user
>>>>>>> data directory: /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810: Not a directory
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What gives here?  The home in question is ubsu3
>>>>>>> in a data partition folder linked into /home as u3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /home/u3/snap/firefox/1810 *is* an empty directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Saturdays are UbuntuStudio days
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), Kernel=5.15.0-43-lowlatency
>>>>>>> on x86_64, DM=sddm, DE=KDE, ST=x11,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/QKljk7F.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snap cannot create user data directory: Not a directory
>>>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/662777/snap-cannot-create-user-data-directory-not-a-directory
>>>>>> Bug #1620771 “when /home is somewhere else, snaps don't work”
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1620771
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to ubuntu, I thought I had several snaps installed
>>>>> but only firefox throws a fit. How can I tell which installed
>>>>> apps are snaps and (presuming more than just FF) how come
>>>>> the others work fine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Having read the bug story (pending further discovery) I'm
>>>>> left with the impression that this is a deal-breaker and
>>>>> I will have to remove ubuntu from my machines (it's aboard
>>>>> ONLY because it's a 'studio' version). All the other distros
>>>>> I use work just fine with a linked home.
>>>>>
>>>> List Installed Snaps
>>>> https://phoenixnap.com/kb/snap-packages#ftoc-heading-4
>>>
>>> I just gave the snap-version the single-finger-salute and installed the
>>> deb. Instructions worked for me:
>>>
>>> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>>
>>
>> ...done, thanks
>
> I probably inadvertently allowed the system to reinstall
> the snap firefox by responding to an upgrade invite. Now
> if I try the workaround again I get
>
> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_105.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
> cannot copy extracted data for './usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so' to '/usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so.dpkg-new': unexpected end of file or stream
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_105.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_amd64.deb
>
> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
> could become a nightmare :-(
>
Have a look at:
https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
... worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing itself.

Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:

> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:

>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
>> could become a nightmare :-(
>>
> Have a look at:
> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing itself.
>
> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.

Thanks, I think I got that done

I was/am already downloading another 'studio'
distro: Fedora-Jam (know nothing about it though)

bad sector wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:
>
>> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
>
>>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
>>> could become a nightmare :-(
>>>
>> Have a look at:
>> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
>> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing itself.
>>
>> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
>
> Thanks, I think I got that done
>
> I was/am already downloading another 'studio'
> distro: Fedora-Jam (know nothing about it though)
>
>

In the link that I provided
<https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>

it explained not only do you have to remove the snap version but to must
prioritize the deb version over the snap to prevent it from being
reinstalled.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:21:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> bad sector wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
>>
>>>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
>>>> could become a nightmare :-(
>>>>
>>> Have a look at:
>>> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
>>> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing itself.
>>>
>>> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
>>
>> Thanks, I think I got that done
>>
>> I was/am already downloading another 'studio'
>> distro: Fedora-Jam (know nothing about it though)
>>
>>
>
> In the link that I provided
> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>
> it explained not only do you have to remove the snap version but to must
> prioritize the deb version over the snap to prevent it from being
> reinstalled.

Thanks, I have it bookmarked and saved (next UbuntuStudio
day will be Saturday). But if Ubuntu shifts most of its
offering to snap then will I have to follow some similar
workaround for every one of them?

I don't have any _major_ problem with flatpacks, they could
even make my multi-OS tinkerings easier, but if linked
home folders/files are nixed then that is a deal-breaker.

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Sundays Ubuntu-Studio.

On 03/10/2022 14:03, bad sector wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:21:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
>> bad sector wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
>>>>> could become a nightmare :-(
>>>>>
>>>> Have a look at:
>>>> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
>>>> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing itself.
>>>>
>>>> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
>>>
>>> Thanks, I think I got that done
>>>
>>> I was/am already downloading another 'studio'
>>> distro: Fedora-Jam (know nothing about it though)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In the link that I provided
>> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>>
>> it explained not only do you have to remove the snap version but to must
>> prioritize the deb version over the snap to prevent it from being
>> reinstalled.
>
> Thanks, I have it bookmarked and saved (next UbuntuStudio
> day will be Saturday). But if Ubuntu shifts most of its
> offering to snap then will I have to follow some similar
> workaround for every one of them?
>
> I don't have any _major_ problem with flatpacks, they could
> even make my multi-OS tinkerings easier, but if linked
> home folders/files are nixed then that is a deal-breaker.
>
>
>

I've been running ubuntu since Warty (5.05 IIRC, before that it was Minix, installed from 5¼" diskettes) and so far
(currently 20.04) have managed to hang on without snap.
But if as you say "Ubuntu shifts most of it's offering to snap" I guess it'll be Mint for me -- Unless I find a
reasonable non-snap distro that won't force me to relearn my finger memory, and that also does without systemd.

As an uconnected query: Am I alone in this?
...Old dog, no new tricks

Mike

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 14:29:44 +0300
Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

> On 03/10/2022 14:03, bad sector wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:21:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> >
> >> bad sector wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this
> >>>>> could become a nightmare :-(
> >>>>>
> >>>> Have a look at:
> >>>> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-ubuntu-linux/
> >>>> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap
> >>>> re-establishing itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I think I got that done
> >>>
> >>> I was/am already downloading another 'studio'
> >>> distro: Fedora-Jam (know nothing about it though)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> In the link that I provided
> >> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
> >>
> >> it explained not only do you have to remove the snap version but
> >> to must prioritize the deb version over the snap to prevent it
> >> from being reinstalled.
> >
> > Thanks, I have it bookmarked and saved (next UbuntuStudio
> > day will be Saturday). But if Ubuntu shifts most of its
> > offering to snap then will I have to follow some similar
> > workaround for every one of them?
> >
> > I don't have any _major_ problem with flatpacks, they could
> > even make my multi-OS tinkerings easier, but if linked
> > home folders/files are nixed then that is a deal-breaker.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> I've been running ubuntu since Warty (5.05 IIRC, before that it was
> Minix, installed from 5¼" diskettes) and so far (currently 20.04)
> have managed to hang on without snap. But if as you say "Ubuntu
> shifts most of it's offering to snap" I guess it'll be Mint for me --
> Unless I find a reasonable non-snap distro that won't force me to
> relearn my finger memory, and that also does without systemd.
>
> As an uconnected query: Am I alone in this?
> ..Old dog, no new tricks
>
> Mike
>

If you change give MX Linux a try.

Snap packages and MX Linux - MX Linux

December 30, 2018. Version: MX-17, MX-18, and MX-19. Section:
Applications. Running snap packages (snaps) is problematic on our
default MX setup because of a couple of factors. snapd (the snaps
backend) requires systemd and we use sysVinit by default. snapd
confinement doesn't like the symlink we use to link /tmp to /var/tmp.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:21:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> bad sector wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 06:49:00 +0300, Henry Crun wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/10/2022 6:43, bad sector wrote:
>>
>>>> I also see a lot of other snap packages, this could become a
>>>> nightmare :-(
>>>>
>>> Have a look at:
>>> https://cialu.net/how-to-disable-and-remove-completely-snaps-in-
ubuntu-linux/
>>> .. worked for me -- including how to prevent snap re-establishing
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> Now running ub. 20.04 snap-free.
>>
>> Thanks, I think I got that done
>>
>> I was/am already downloading another 'studio' distro: Fedora-Jam (know
>> nothing about it though)
>>
>>
>>
> In the link that I provided
> <https://linuxiac.com/install-firefox-from-deb-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/>
>
> it explained not only do you have to remove the snap version but to must
> prioritize the deb version over the snap to prevent it from being
> reinstalled.

*Thanks AGAIN!* I finally got around to repeating the
workaround and this time also doing the prevention bit.
I'm new to ubuntu (studio) so anything I do in it is
like walking barefoot on broken beer bottles (actually
did that once, escaping from a hotel fire).

Is there any ubuntu-familiar opinion here about

1
Will snap continue to reject homes as links?

2
Will snap continue being impopsed on users?

My problem is that my homes ARE links and this is
hard wired into my setups so either something
changes ubuntu side or we have to (unfortunately)
part somewhere along the road ahead...

I like Ubuntu-Studio, it's my only 'buntu distro
and would like to keep it as company for the other
6

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me, ALL of them Linux.