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* Re: Qbasicundefined Hancock-4
`* Re: QbasicThomas Koenig
 +* Re: QbasicCharlie Gibbs
 |`* Re: QbasicBob Eager
 | +* Re: QbasicAndreas Kohlbach
 | |+- Re: QbasicBob Eager
 | |`- Re: QbasicScott Lurndal
 | `- Re: QbasicCharlie Gibbs
 `* Re: Qbasicundefined Hancock-4
  +- Re: QbasicThomas Koenig
  +- Re: QbasicBob Eager
  `- Re: QbasicPeter Flass

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 by: undefined Hancock-4 - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:08 UTC

On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1 programs, or old
> Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on modern computers running
> Windows and have them work perfectly and seamlessly. Why is that so hard
> to understand?

Yes.

It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I have little use for
BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS.
I think it should be supported.

IBM managed to support 1401 Autocoder for 50 years.

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From: tkoenig@netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig)
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 by: Thomas Koenig - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:13 UTC

undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>
>
>> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1 programs, or old
>> Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on modern computers running
>> Windows and have them work perfectly and seamlessly. Why is that so hard
>> to understand?
>
> Yes.
>
> It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I have little use for
> BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS.
> I think it should be supported.

You can always use dosemu.

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From: cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14 UTC

On 2021-06-16, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

> undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
>
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>>
>>> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1
>>> programs, or old Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers,
>>> on modern computers running Windows and have them work perfectly
>>> and seamlessly. Why is that so hard to understand?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I
>> have little use for BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like
>> to crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS. I think it should be
>> supported.

But then how could M$ sell you new software and force you to buy
new hardware in the bargain?

> You can always use dosemu.

I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run
just fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | They don't understand Microsoft
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | has stolen their car and parked
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | a taxi in their driveway.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Mayayana

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 by: Bob Eager - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 23:21 UTC

On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14:48 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run just
> fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.

I just run PCDOS 7.0 under VirtualBox!

--
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

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 by: Andreas Kohlbach - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 02:27 UTC

On 16 Jun 2021 23:21:47 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14:48 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run just
>> fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.

There is dosbox for Linux. Ran all DOS apps here I threw at it.

> I just run PCDOS 7.0 under VirtualBox!

Suppose you can still boot pure DOS on a modern machine?

From what I heard there is also an CP/M image for an USB stick to
directly boot on any modern x86 compatible (and most should be) today.
--
Andreas

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 by: Bob Eager - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 05:47 UTC

On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 22:27:24 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

> On 16 Jun 2021 23:21:47 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14:48 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run just
>>> fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.
>
> There is dosbox for Linux. Ran all DOS apps here I threw at it.
>
>> I just run PCDOS 7.0 under VirtualBox!
>
> Suppose you can still boot pure DOS on a modern machine?

You can boot it if you have diskettes. Using a CDROM is problematical
because a modern one will be SATA.

--
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 15:33 UTC

Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>On 16 Jun 2021 23:21:47 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14:48 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run just
>>> fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.
>
>There is dosbox for Linux. Ran all DOS apps here I threw at it.
>
>> I just run PCDOS 7.0 under VirtualBox!
>
>Suppose you can still boot pure DOS on a modern machine?

Probably not. Many UEFI machines no longer provide the
classic BIOS interfaces.

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From: cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
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Subject: Re: Qbasic
Date: 17 Jun 2021 17:50:41 GMT
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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 17:50 UTC

On 2021-06-16, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:14:48 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I run XP under VirtualBox on my Linux boxes. MS-DOS programs run just
>> fine. I still fire up GWBASIC for quick-and-dirty jobs.
>
> I just run PCDOS 7.0 under VirtualBox!

Yes, but I'm developing Windows software too (mostly back-end stuff,
so I don't need the latest whiz-bang GUI facilities).

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | They don't understand Microsoft
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | has stolen their car and parked
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | a taxi in their driveway.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Mayayana

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 by: undefined Hancock-4 - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:48 UTC

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 3:13:49 PM UTC-4, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> undefined Hancock-4 <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
> > On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1 programs, or old
> >> Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on modern computers running
> >> Windows and have them work perfectly and seamlessly. Why is that so hard
> >> to understand?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I have little use for
> > BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS.
> > I think it should be supported.

> You can always use dosemu.

No. Requires LINUX.

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From: tkoenig@netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig)
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Subject: Re: Qbasic
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 by: Thomas Koenig - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 20:05 UTC

undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 3:13:49 PM UTC-4, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> undefined Hancock-4 <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
>> > On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1 programs, or old
>> >> Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on modern computers running
>> >> Windows and have them work perfectly and seamlessly. Why is that so hard
>> >> to understand?
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> > It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I have little use for
>> > BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS.
>> > I think it should be supported.
>
>> You can always use dosemu.
>
> No. Requires LINUX.

You can try Dosbox.

That works well for me under Windows 10.

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 by: Bob Eager - Sat, 26 Jun 2021 20:32 UTC

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 12:48:32 -0700, undefined Hancock-4 wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 3:13:49 PM UTC-4, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> undefined Hancock-4 <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
>> > On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1
>> >> programs, or old Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on
>> >> modern computers running Windows and have them work perfectly and
>> >> seamlessly. Why is that so hard to understand?
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> > It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I
>> > have little use for BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to
>> > crank up the QBASIC that came with DOS.
>> > I think it should be supported.
>
>> You can always use dosemu.
>
> No. Requires LINUX.

And last updated in 2007.

I have PCDOS 7 running happily in Virtualbox.

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Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

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undefined Hancock-4 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 3:13:49 PM UTC-4, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> undefined Hancock-4 <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> schrieb:
>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It should be just possible to install and run old Windows 3.1 programs, or old
>>>> Windows 95 programs with 16-bit installers, on modern computers running
>>>> Windows and have them work perfectly and seamlessly. Why is that so hard
>>>> to understand?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> It sucks my Windows 10 machine won't run old stuff. Admittedly, I have little use for
>>> BASIC these days, but once in a while I'd like to crank up the QBASIC
>>> that came with DOS.
>>> I think it should be supported.
>
>> You can always use dosemu.
>
> No. Requires LINUX.
>

Or a virtual machine. I finally bit the bullet and installed Win XP in a VM
on Linux, for the occasional time I need it.

--
Pete

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