On 24 Mar 2024 as I do recall,
Wakefield 2024 wrote:

> With the event now just under five weeks away, Wakefield RISC OS Computer
> Club hope that all RISC OS users will have the Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS
> Computer Show in their diaries for Saturday 27th April.
[snip]

> We will also have the usual Charity Stall raising funds for Wakefield
> Hospice; thanks to your help we have raised in the region of 28,000 over
> the years.

I still have a box of second-hand software/small hardware to donate to
the charity stall, as mentioned re the South West Show; would anybody be
able to take that up from London?

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On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 21:35:13 GMT
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

>On 24 Mar 2024 as I do recall,
> Wakefield 2024 wrote:
>
>> With the event now just under five weeks away, Wakefield RISC OS Computer
>> Club hope that all RISC OS users will have the Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS
>> Computer Show in their diaries for Saturday 27th April.
>[snip]
>
>> We will also have the usual Charity Stall raising funds for Wakefield
>> Hospice; thanks to your help we have raised in the region of 28,000 over
>> the years.
>
>I still have a box of second-hand software/small hardware to donate to
>the charity stall, as mentioned re the South West Show; would anybody be
>able to take that up from London?

Can't help here, but I *might* be going to the London one later in the year (I
believe it's moved to North London. It rather depends on exactly where they are
and where you are. It's something like 30 year since I last drove into London
{scary}

--
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On 26 Mar 2024 as I do recall,
Folderol wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 21:35:13 GMT
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> >I still have a box of second-hand software/small hardware to donate to
> >the charity stall, as mentioned re the South West Show; would anybody be
> >able to take that up from London?
>
> Can't help here, but I *might* be going to the London one later in the
> year (I believe it's moved to North London. It rather depends on
> exactly where they are and where you are. It's something like 30 year
> since I last drove into London {scary}
>
I'm in South London (and never the twain shall meet!)

I wasn't aware that the venue had moved, but apparently it's going to be
in Harrow, which is closer but ironically probably takes more time to
get to than the previous out-of-London venue from this quadrant of the
city....

https://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/venue.php

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In article <20240326124948.329dd5e1@devuan>,
Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
> >I still have a box of second-hand software/small hardware to donate to
> >the charity stall, as mentioned re the South West Show; would anybody be
> >able to take that up from London?

> Can't help here, but I *might* be going to the London one later in the
> year (I believe it's moved to North London. It rather depends on exactly
> where they are and where you are. It's something like 30 year since I
> last drove into London {scary}

Looking at later posts in this thread, it seems it is in Harrow, and that
looks a lot better than having to drive to it's previous location in North
london, the reason I don't go to the London show. I will consider it this
year.

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On 27/03/2024 09:30, Stuart wrote:
> Looking at later posts in this thread, it seems it is in Harrow, and that
> looks a lot better than having to drive to it's previous location in North
> london, the reason I don't go to the London show. I will consider it this
> year.

It is still inside Khan's expanded ULEZ zone though. So while my 2009
petrol car which does 18mpg is OK, the wife's 2014 diesel which does
45mpg gets fleeced.

Although at least it is on this side of London, if on a trip to the east
such as the Excel centre, it's actually cheaper to take the Wife's car
and pay the charge, rather than the amount of fuel mine would waste
crawling around the M25.

---druck

On 27 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
<5b481ed87fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>:

> Looking at later posts in this thread, it seems it is in Harrow, and that
> looks a lot better than having to drive to it's previous location in North
> london, the reason I don't go to the London show.

Feltham's in North London? I suppose it's north of the river, at least!

Now, the new location is in North London, I'll grant you that... :-)

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

In article <uu232v$32mmq$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> > Looking at later posts in this thread, it seems it is in Harrow, and
> > that looks a lot better than having to drive to it's previous location
> > in North london, the reason I don't go to the London show. I will
> > consider it this year.

> It is still inside Khan's expanded ULEZ zone though. So while my 2009
> petrol car which does 18mpg is OK, the wife's 2014 diesel which does
> 45mpg gets fleeced.

I believe my 2016 Skoda Octavia estate, which averages 48-50mpg, is
compliant but I haven't checked. From kenilworth, I will probably come
down the M40 and wouldn't need to touch the M25.

--
Stuart Winsor

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http://www.twam.co.uk/

In article <mpro.sb125a00pjxm804qq.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 27 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
> <5b481ed87fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>:

> > Looking at later posts in this thread, it seems it is in Harrow, and
> > that looks a lot better than having to drive to it's previous location
> > in North london, the reason I don't go to the London show.

> Feltham's in North London? I suppose it's north of the river, at least!

> Now, the new location is in North London, I'll grant you that... :-)

Ok, I've just looked at the map to refresh my memory and it is East
London. It's a long time since I went but what I remember was a trip down
the M1 and then a dreadful journey to the hotel, for what seemed miles,
through built-up areas with heavy traffic. When we arrived, the car park
seemed almost overflowing, although we arrived at around the time the show
opened. The following year I cadged a lift with someone else and I wasn't
impressed with his driving so haven't been since.

However, before I venture to the new venue, I will do a virtual drive
using streetview.

When we visit the South-west show, we use a Park-and-ride a little to the
east of Bristol which is about a 10min bus ride from the hotel. Wakefield,
of course, was sited brilliantly but I've not been since it moved up to
Bradford.

--
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 18:44:41 GMT
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

<snippety snip>
>I'm in South London (and never the twain shall meet!)
>
>I wasn't aware that the venue had moved, but apparently it's going to be
>in Harrow, which is closer but ironically probably takes more time to
>get to than the previous out-of-London venue from this quadrant of the
>city....
>
>https://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/venue.php
>
>

Hmm. Not good, not at all good :(

By car I have two practical routes, Dartford crossing and M25 North, or M25
South. Both are equally unpleasant (and about the same distance). North is
slightly quicker, but of course includes the Dart charge.

If I go at all, I think I'll go by train. Twice as long travelling but far less
stressful. So sorry, Harriet, I won't be able to help.

--
Will J Godfrey {apparently now an 'elderly'}
https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/

On 28 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
<5b48a2ef0fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>:

> It's a long time since I went but what I remember was a trip down
> the M1 and then a dreadful journey to the hotel, for what seemed miles,
> through built-up areas with heavy traffic.

From the motorway? Luxury. I used to take the A244 round from Leatherhead,
and that was invariably fun.

> When we arrived, the car park seemed almost overflowing, although we
> arrived at around the time the show opened.

The car park at St Giles was pretty awful. Even getting a space as an
exhibitor could be a challenge.

> Wakefield, of course, was sited brilliantly but I've not been since it
> moved up to Bradford.

It's not really any different if you're coming by car, except perhaps being
a bit further or a bit closer depending on where you're starting from (it's
further for Kenilworth). The hotel is right on the terminus of the M606, and
on a Saturday that's not usually busy -- and there's no need to negotiate
the roundabout at junction 3 unless you're coming in on the ring road,
because the underpass deposits you on the light-controlled junction where
the hotel is.

See https://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/travel for a map -- I even drove
through the junction on the way home from work one evening to check the
directions.

The hotel is inside the Bradford CAZ, but unless you're driving some kind of
truck or commercial vehicle, you're probably exempt -- it's worth checking,
though. There's a link from the show website.

PS. I've just realised that the train map might be incorrect this year, as
I'm not sure if there are any services on the "blue" line from Ilkley to
Shipley until June or July after someone's house and garden ended up more on
the line than the embankment. It's a fairly niche route in (in terms of the
wider UK show audience), though, and those using it will probably have local
knowledge of the problems and replacement bus services.

--
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On 28 Mar 2024 as I do recall,
Folderol wrote:

[snip]

> If I go at all, I think I'll go by train. Twice as long travelling but
> far less stressful. So sorry, Harriet, I won't be able to help.
>

That's all right - I shall probably be able to do it myself, although
possibly not by bike-and-trailer (Harrow being about fifteen miles away
and notoriously hilly!)
I think Islington marks the current limit of my self-propelled
explorations North of the River....

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