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* Thunderbird startup viewJim the Geordie
+* Thunderbird startup viewStan Brown
|`- Thunderbird startup viewNobody
+* Thunderbird startup viewRalph Fox
|`* Thunderbird startup viewJörg_Knobloch
| `- Thunderbird startup viewRalph Fox
`- Thunderbird startup viewJörg_Lorenz

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From: jim@jimXscott.co.uk (Jim the Geordie)
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Subject: Thunderbird startup view
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42:04 -0000
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 by: Jim the Geordie - Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42 UTC

Latest versions
When I start Betterbird the layout is 'classic' i.e. message pane at
bottom
When I start Thunderbird it always starts in 'vertical' layout. I can of
course change it, but next time, the same happens.
Solution in Config Editor or .....?

I know I should probably always use Betterbird, but there you are.
There's something holdong me back.

--
Jim the Geordie

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From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm (Stan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Subject: Re: Thunderbird startup view
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 by: Stan Brown - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 01:17 UTC

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42:04 -0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> I know I should probably always use Betterbird, but there you are.
> There's something holdong me back.

Embrace the change, Jim! :-)

The "something" holding me back was basically inertia. What got me
past that was this feature table:
https://betterbird.eu/#featuretable

Last month I ran Betterbird for about a week and then made it my
default email program. A week later I unpinned Thunderbird from my
taskbar. And this week I plan to uninstall Thunderbird and the
profile it was using. (At the start, I had cloned that profile for
the use of Betterbird.)

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Nobody - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 02:32 UTC

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:17:42 -0800, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42:04 -0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>> I know I should probably always use Betterbird, but there you are.
>> There's something holdong me back.
>
>Embrace the change, Jim! :-)
>
>The "something" holding me back was basically inertia. What got me
>past that was this feature table:
>https://betterbird.eu/#featuretable
>
>Last month I ran Betterbird for about a week and then made it my
>default email program. A week later I unpinned Thunderbird from my
>taskbar. And this week I plan to uninstall Thunderbird and the
>profile it was using. (At the start, I had cloned that profile for
>the use of Betterbird.)

Does that mean Butterbird won't be promoted on a.s.c.s.T'bird?

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 by: Ralph Fox - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 04:15 UTC

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42:04 -0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

> Latest versions
> When I start Betterbird the layout is 'classic' i.e. message pane at
> bottom
> When I start Thunderbird it always starts in 'vertical' layout. I can of
> course change it, but next time, the same happens.
> Solution in Config Editor or .....?

Thunderbird v115.6.0
 *  Thunderbird v115.6.0 normally starts in 'classic' layout here.
 *  When I change the layout at "View >> Layout >> ...", the change is
    still there after restarting Thunderbird v115.6.0.

FYI the Config Editor preference is "mail.pane_config.dynamic".
Values are: 0 = 'classic' layout, 2 = 'vertical' layout.

Also see <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1429542>

> I know I should probably always use Betterbird, but there you are.
> There's something holdong me back.

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊

𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘭𝘧 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘪𝘳 (𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘰𝘭𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘸 𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘨𝘦) 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯.

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From: jorgk@jorgk.com (Jörg Knobloch)
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Subject: Re: Thunderbird startup view
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 by: Jörg Knobloch - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 10:26 UTC

On 04 Jan 2024 05:15, Ralph Fox wrote:
> Thunderbird v115.6.0
>  *  Thunderbird v115.6.0 normally starts in 'classic' layout here.
>  *  When I change the layout at "View >> Layout >> ...", the change is
>     still there after restarting Thunderbird v115.6.0.

The Thunderbird folks changed the default for new profiles to vertical
view with cards since 115.2.3 for new profiles only:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1849000
Betterbird didn't follow this.

Once you adjust the layout, that change will/should stick and be
restored after restart.

--
Viele Grüße, Jörg
Sent with Betterbird. Simply better. www.betterbird.eu
Es ist immer wieder erstaunlich: Kaum macht man's richtig, schon
funktioniert's!

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 by: Ralph Fox - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:53 UTC

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:42:04 -0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

> When I start Thunderbird it always starts in 'vertical' layout. I can of
> course change it, but next time, the same happens.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 11:26:22 +0100, Jörg Knobloch wrote:

> The Thunderbird folks changed the default for new profiles to vertical
> view with cards since 115.2.3 for new profiles only:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1849000
> Betterbird didn't follow this.
>
> Once you adjust the layout, that change will/should stick and be
> restored after restart.

While that is what I get with Thunderbird, it is not what the OP told
us he gets with Thunderbird. 🤷

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊

“Fer from eȝe, fer from herte,” quoþ Hendyng.

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:48 UTC

On 03.01.24 18:42, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> Latest versions
> When I start Betterbird the layout is 'classic' i.e. message pane at
> bottom
> When I start Thunderbird it always starts in 'vertical' layout. I can of
> course change it, but next time, the same happens.
> Solution in Config Editor or .....?

Here TB starts on all systems with the classic view. Are you using the
same profile for BB and TB?

> I know I should probably always use Betterbird, but there you are.
> There's something holdong me back.

No comment.

--
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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