I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what happened
to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in the BBC B days?
I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the attic!
I remember they went on to produce Impression for the Archimedes, but then
rather seemed to drop out of sight.

--
Basic

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:41:38 +0000
Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:

> I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
> happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in
> the BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the
> attic! I remember they went on to produce Impression for the
> Archimedes, but then rather seemed to drop out of sight.
>

Why don't you drop them an email?

http://www.cconcepts.co.uk/docs/mail.htm

--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
> I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
> happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in the
> BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the attic!
> I remember they went on to produce Impression for the Archimedes, but
> then rather seemed to drop out of sight.

Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement, they
produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called Xara.

Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara.
Corel, who as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got
Xara back and did some more development work on it.

They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
appreciated in Pro design circles.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 20:53:11 -0600
Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:41:38 +0000
>Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
>> happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in
>> the BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the
>> attic! I remember they went on to produce Impression for the
>> Archimedes, but then rather seemed to drop out of sight.
>>
>
>Why don't you drop them an email?
>
>http://www.cconcepts.co.uk/docs/mail.htm
>
Hmmm. The most recent site update is 2001 - still at least they *do* give a
date, not many sites do that.

--
Basic

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:31:42 +0000 (GMT)
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
> Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
>> I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
>> happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in the
>> BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the attic!
>> I remember they went on to produce Impression for the Archimedes, but
>> then rather seemed to drop out of sight.
>
>Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement, they
>produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called Xara.
>
>Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara.
>Corel, who as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got
>Xara back and did some more development work on it.
>
>They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
>appreciated in Pro design circles.
>
>Dave
>

I did have a vague memory of Xara. It seems it's become the tail that wagged
the dog :o

Interesting that they're still at Gaddesden place - that can't be a cheap
option!

--
Basic

In article <5b217aa73adave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
> Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
> > I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
> > happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in the
> > BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the attic!
> > I remember they went on to produce Impression for the Archimedes, but
> > then rather seemed to drop out of sight.

> Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement, they
> produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called Xara.

> Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara.
> Corel, who as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got
> Xara back and did some more development work on it.

> They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
> appreciated in Pro design circles.

Didn't Martin Würthner work for them?

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

In message <5b2192a6aeSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <5b217aa73adave@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
>> Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
>>> I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know what
>>> happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way back in the
>>> BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have up in the attic!
>>> I remember they went on to produce Impression for the Archimedes, but
>>> then rather seemed to drop out of sight.

>> Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement, they
>> produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called Xara.

>> Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara.
>> Corel, who as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got
>> Xara back and did some more development work on it.

>> They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
>> appreciated in Pro design circles.

> Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?

Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
Artworks. But left after awhile.

--
Chris Hughes

In article <410796215b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?

> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
> Artworks. But left after awhile.

Anyone know what he is up to now, I know he became a father, but nothing
on his web page since 2021

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

On 12/01/2024 17:08, Stuart wrote:
> In article <410796215b.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?
>
>> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
>> Artworks. But left after awhile.
>
> Anyone know what he is up to now, I know he became a father, but nothing
> on his web page since 2021
>

He's still maintaininig Artworks as far as I know.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:44:30 +0000
Sniffer <sniffer@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:

>On 12/01/2024 17:08, Stuart wrote:
>> In article <410796215b.chris@mytardis>,
>> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?
>>
>>> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
>>> Artworks. But left after awhile.
>>
>> Anyone know what he is up to now, I know he became a father, but nothing
>> on his web page since 2021
>>
>
>He's still maintaininig Artworks as far as I know.
The only name I remembered was Charles Moir. I see he's still the boss.
I seem to remember there were about half a dozen there at first, but can't
remember any names.
I didn't know Martin had worked there. Somehow I've always thought of him as
being an independent developer.

--
Basic

In article <unrtpu$3frht$1@dont-email.me>, Sniffer
<sniffer@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12/01/2024 17:08, Stuart wrote:
> > In article <410796215b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
> > <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?
> >
> >> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially
> >> off Artworks. But left after awhile.
> >
> > Anyone know what he is up to now, I know he became a father, but
> > nothing on his web page since 2021
> >

> He's still maintaininig Artworks as far as I know.

Are you sure?

I always looked forward to the updates he produced but the last one
('Shape Pointer/Eraser' tool I think) was 2 years ago in November
2021. I wonder if he's still able to work on ArtWorks - sadly it won't
pay the bills incurred with a young family. It would be interesting to
know what he's doing.

I still enjoy using ArtWorks because of its simple tool sytem and
reliability. Does anyone remember Vantage - a fantastic bit of
software provided you weren't concerned about reliability. The
discovery of ArtWorks, after using Vantage was a revelation. I use
Xara Photo and Graphic Designer very infrequently but the learning
curve is long.

Richard

Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <5b2192a6aeSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
> Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <5b217aa73adave@triffid.co.uk>,
> > Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
> >> Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know
> > > > what happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way
> > > > back in the BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have
> > > > up in the attic! I remember they went on to produce Impression for
> > > > the Archimedes, but then rather seemed to drop out of sight.
>
> > > Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement,
> > > they produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called
> > > Xara.
>
> > > Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara. Corel, who
> > > as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got Xara
> > > back and did some more development work on it.
>
> > > They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
> > > appreciated in Pro design circles.
>
> > Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?
>
> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
> Artworks. But left after awhile.

"a while" being 18 years. ;-) I stopped working for Xara two months ago.

Sorry about jumping in so late, I found it increasingly hard to find a
reliable news server in recent years, so I gave up on news for quite a
while.

Martin
--
Martin Wuerthner MW Software http://www.mw-software.com/

------- RISC OS Software for Design, Printing and Publishing --------

On Fri, 22 Mar 24 18:30:04 UTC
Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:

>Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <5b2192a6aeSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
>> Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <5b217aa73adave@triffid.co.uk>,
>> > Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > In article <20240111214138.3e8cd141@devuan>,
>> >> Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> wrote:
>> > > > I don't know what made me think about this, but does anyone know
>> > > > what happened to all the people working at Computer Concepts way
>> > > > back in the BBC B days? I had Wordwise and and probably still have
>> > > > up in the attic! I remember they went on to produce Impression for
>> > > > the Archimedes, but then rather seemed to drop out of sight.
>>
>> > > Long time ago now, but IIRC. At the end of their RISC OS engagement,
>> > > they produced a graphics app for the Windows PC side of things, called
>> > > Xara.
>>
>> > > Then they sold the rights to Corel so it became Corel Xara. Corel, who
>> > > as usual didn't do much with it, and after a few years CC got Xara
>> > > back and did some more development work on it.
>>
>> > > They are still at Gaddesden Place, and the Xara app I believe is
>> > > appreciated in Pro design circles.
>>
>> > Didn't Martin Wurthner work for them?
>>
>> Yes he worked on Xara for sometime since it was based initially off
>> Artworks. But left after awhile.
>
>"a while" being 18 years. ;-) I stopped working for Xara two months ago.
>
>Sorry about jumping in so late, I found it increasingly hard to find a
>reliable news server in recent years, so I gave up on news for quite a
>while.
>
>Martin

Good to hear from you. Would the reason you stopped be retirement by any chance?
(well into retirement myself)

--
Basic

On 22 Mar, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:

> I found it increasingly hard to find a reliable news server in recent
> years, so I gave up on news for quite a while.

http://news.individual.net - 10 Euros a year and has never let me down yet. They are based at Freie Universitat, Berlin, and offer a free two-week trial.
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
--------------------------------------------------------------
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You must restart Windows for the new setting to take effect...

In article <f13adf455b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
> On 22 Mar, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:

> > I found it increasingly hard to find a reliable news server in recent
> > years, so I gave up on news for quite a while.

> http://news.individual.net - 10 Euros a year and has never let me down
> yet. They are based at Freie Universitat, Berlin, and offer a free
> two-week trial.

I agree, I've been using nin for many, many years and they are very
reliable.

My second fiddle in the news department is...

http://news.eternal-september.org

Which is free, but needs a registration, and on the whole resonably
reliable.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

In article <5b4609c5f3dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:
> In article <f13adf455b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>, Brian Howlett
> <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
> > On 22 Mar, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:

> > > I found it increasingly hard to find a reliable news server in
> > > recent years, so I gave up on news for quite a while.

> > http://news.individual.net - 10 Euros a year and has never let me
> > down yet. They are based at Freie Universitat, Berlin, and offer
> > a free two-week trial.

> I agree, I've been using nin for many, many years and they are very
> reliable.

Excellent service - never had any issues (hoping I'm not tempting
providence) - consistently reliable and at a price that hasn't changed
in years. If signing-up via RISC OS then a Javascript browser like
Iris will be necessary.

Richard