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* Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARELouis Ohland
+* Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RAREschimmi
|+- Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARELouis Ohland
|`* Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RAREMarco Moock
| `* Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARETomas Slavotinek
|  `- Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RAREschimmi
`- Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RAREmoussa

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From: ohland@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARE
Personal System W/ Cards
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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:58 UTC

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335

Santa Rosa, California,

No complex. No floppy.

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 by: schimmi - Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:18 UTC

no ram.

creative definition of 'working'. :D

Louis Ohland schrieb am Sonntag, 28. August 2022 um 19:58:21 UTC+2:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335
>
> Santa Rosa, California,
>
> No complex. No floppy.

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From: ohland@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARE
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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:18 UTC

No memory riser bracket, either.

schimmi wrote:
> no ram.
>
> creative definition of 'working'. :D
>
> Louis Ohland schrieb am Sonntag, 28. August 2022 um 19:58:21 UTC+2:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335
>>
>> Santa Rosa, California,
>>
>> No complex. No floppy.

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 by: moussa - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 02:46 UTC

On 29/8/22 01:58, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335
>
>  Santa Rosa, California,
>
> No complex. No floppy.
*rare* indeed

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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 11:36 UTC

Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:

> no ram.
> creative definition of 'working'. :D

Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
stand-alone.
If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.

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From: slavotinek@gmail.com (Tomas Slavotinek)
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Subject: Re: Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARE
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:20 UTC

A computer unit sold as "working" should have all critical parts inside
imo. If not, the description should mention what is missing. The seller
acknowledges that the FDD and HDD aren't there but completely ignores
that the entire processor complex is missing and that there is no memory
either (ignoring the other non-critical parts). If the seller can't test
the unit properly, they shouldn't be selling it as "working".

To your CPU analogy... If you are selling a processor as "working", it
should be complete (i.e. no missing non-redundant pins) and be in a
condition good enough to at least make it through the POST. Of course
you don't expect it to come with a motherboard if the item sold is just
a CPU. Equally, I don't expect this Model 90 to come with peripherals
like the power cord, keyboard and monitor...

But at least this seller has some good photos there - so a person
knowledgeable about these systems can figure out what is missing.

On 30.08.2022 13:36, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:
>
>> no ram.
>> creative definition of 'working'. :D
>
> Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
> condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
> stand-alone.
> If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
> motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.
>

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 by: schimmi - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 19:20 UTC

Yes, I've meant the unit as it was simply offered. Following the analogy to a cpu (as a unit) - it would mean you get something with missing pins, caps etc. - it does work, because it gets warm.
It was sold for $119 - that's totally fine for what it is: a parts machine, so no offense :)

Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Dienstag, 30. August 2022 um 14:20:18 UTC+2:
> A computer unit sold as "working" should have all critical parts inside
> imo. If not, the description should mention what is missing. The seller
> acknowledges that the FDD and HDD aren't there but completely ignores
> that the entire processor complex is missing and that there is no memory
> either (ignoring the other non-critical parts). If the seller can't test
> the unit properly, they shouldn't be selling it as "working".
>
> To your CPU analogy... If you are selling a processor as "working", it
> should be complete (i.e. no missing non-redundant pins) and be in a
> condition good enough to at least make it through the POST. Of course
> you don't expect it to come with a motherboard if the item sold is just
> a CPU. Equally, I don't expect this Model 90 to come with peripherals
> like the power cord, keyboard and monitor...
>
> But at least this seller has some good photos there - so a person
> knowledgeable about these systems can figure out what is missing.
> On 30.08.2022 13:36, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:
> >
> >> no ram.
> >> creative definition of 'working'. :D
> >
> > Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
> > condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
> > stand-alone.
> > If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
> > motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.
> >

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