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* USB to GPIB as Win7 networking?Louis Ohland
`* Re: USB to GPIB as Win7 networking?Louis Ohland
 `* NI archived documents for MC-GPIBLouis Ohland
  +- Re: NI archived documents for MC-GPIBLouis Ohland
  `* External GPIB Controller,for the PC Parallel Port GPIB-1284CTLouis Ohland
   +- MC-GPIB, GPIB-RS/6000Louis Ohland
   +* PC BUS PERFORMANCE NUBUS VS MICRO CHANNELLouis Ohland
   |`- Strip-tease Re: PC BUS PERFORMANCE NUBUS VS MICRO CHANNELLouis Ohland
   +* THE PC INSTRUMENT BUSLouis Ohland
   |`- Scientific Solutions ® Inc. MC-IEEE488Louis Ohland
   +- High-Performance Single-Chip,GPIB Talker/ListenerLouis Ohland
   `* NEC uPD7210C datasheetLouis Ohland
    `- National Instruments MC-GPIB versionsLouis Ohland

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 13:29 UTC

Idly trolling thru 422 communications, looked at GPIB. Max rate 1MB/s,
or 8Mbit/s. Close to Evilnet...

Would an NI GPIB adapter be able to communicate as a serial port to Win7
using a USB to GPIB cable?

https://ardent-tool.com/comms/Natl-Instr_MC-GPIB.html

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 13:34 UTC

https://www.ni.com/pdf/manuals/370948a.pdf

page 17 physical

Hardware Description
The MC-GPIB transforms any IBM PS/2 or compatible computer equipped
with 16-bit Micro Channel slots into a full-functioned Talker/Listener/
Controller. The NAT4882 controller chip is fully compatible with the
IEEE 488.2 standard. The Turbo488 performance-enhancing ASIC boosts
GPIB read and write transfers to rates exceeding 1 Mbytes/s. You can use
standard GPIB cables to connect the MC-GPIB board with up to 14
instruments, or you can install multiple MC-GPIB boards in a single
system.

NI archived documents for MC-GPIB

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 13:37 UTC

https://www.ni.com/en-us/search.html?pg=1&ps=10&sb=%2Brelevancy&sn=catnav:sup.man&q=MC-GPIB

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 13:44 UTC

https://datasheet.datasheetarchive.com/originals/library/Datasheets-UD1/DSAUD003515.pdf

Do tell....

HS488
The NB-GPIB/TNT uses a high-speed
GPIB protocol (HS488). HS488, patented
by National Instruments, increases the
maximum data transfer rate of ANSI/IEEE
Standard 488.1-1987 up to 8 Mbytes/s.
HS488, a superset of the IEEE 488.1
protocol, attempts to conduct data transfers
with the new higher speed protocol.

External GPIB Controller,for the PC Parallel Port GPIB-1284CT

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:02 UTC

https://datasheet.datasheetarchive.com/originals/library/Datasheets-UD1/DSAUD003516.pdf

MC-GPIB, GPIB-RS/6000

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:30 UTC

https://datasheet.datasheetarchive.com/originals/library/Datasheets-UD1/DSAUD003212.pdf

PC BUS PERFORMANCE NUBUS VS MICRO CHANNEL

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:39 UTC

https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Wireless-World/80s/Wireless-World-1988-09.pdf

pages 18-21 physical

THE PC INSTRUMENT BUS

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:43 UTC

https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Wireless-World/90s/Wireless-World-1990-04.pdf

pages 47-50

Scientific Solutions ® Inc. MC-IEEE488

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 15:25 UTC

https://scientific-solutions.com/products/ieee488/ieee488_spec.html

(NEC7210)

High-Performance Single-Chip,GPIB Talker/Listener ASIC,TNT4882/TNT4882I

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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 1 May 2022 15:30 UTC

https://datasheet.datasheetarchive.com/originals/library/Datasheets-UD1/DSAUD003502.pdf

I think the MC-GPIB does not have the TNT chip :(

NEC uPD7210C datasheet

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From: ohland@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: NEC uPD7210C datasheet
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 20:14:09 -0500
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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 2 May 2022 01:14 UTC

https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/609317/NEC/UPD7210C/1

National Instruments MC-GPIB versions

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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 2 May 2022 01:34 UTC

Early 180600-01 TURBO488 [NI 700454-01] fabbed by ST and NEC uPD7210C
8MHz clock?

Late 181165-01 TURBO488BPL, fabbed by Toshiba? VLSI VGT8001-4057 NS
NAT4882BPL
20MHz clock?

The TNT488 chip was never used on Micro Channel, but damn near
everything else, ISA, EISA, PCI, PCMCIA, NuBus, LC

The "High Speed" or HS488 seems to be on the TNT chip and it was not
very useful unless you did big transfers, or the overhead ate you alive
[like ravenous Brittany puppy teethies].

Supposedly the Keithley KPC488 was a better performer, even without NI's
HS488. I dunno, haven't found the actual documentation yet...

Strip-tease Re: PC BUS PERFORMANCE NUBUS VS MICRO CHANNEL

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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 4 May 2022 15:24 UTC

Stripping to expose this to the world.

On 5/1/2022 09:39, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Wireless-World/80s/Wireless-World-1988-09.pdf
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> pages 18-21 physical

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