J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>> If you hive off a version of your own, ok you're on Freedom
>> Road. But your version will soon be inferior to Betterbird.
>
> Maybe for you that's true because perhaps you're not a software
> developer. But you have no evidence that is true for others, even
> others who don't know programming now but are willing to learn as they
> edit code. That's how all programmers started out, after all, even
> Betterbird's programmers.
>
> Your unbacked claim is also a false dichotomy: "inferior" is a vague
> comparison that isn't for you to determine for others. You pointed out
> that Betterbird does inherit code from Thunderbird and include
> modifications all its own. Nothing stops anyone else from doing more
> of the same; making their derivative to their own liking.
>
> There's simply no magic to Betterbird's development here that would,
> by design, fail for anyone else to leverage their software freedom but
> remain a valid and reasonable thing for Betterbird to leverage. Your
> scare talk doesn't convince me at all, there's no reason to try to get
> software freedom to seem like non-free software dependency.

Well, if that's your bag, man, then that's your bag.
You'll have to apportion lots of time to keep reading updates and then
applying them to your thing. Quite apart from whatever dreams you have
of using the open-source code.
Are you a Linux fanboy? Of which there are so many varieties and flavours.
Or maybe a trainee programmer?

Either way I think you're on a course that would be detrimental to the
T/B.bird project.

Ed

Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> Either way I think you're on a course that would be detrimental to
> the T/B.bird project.

So, to you, these projects are so fragile that someone leveraging
their software freedom as these projects do is (in some unidentified
way) harmful. What a desperate and paternalistic bid to get people to
treat software freedom as a threat instead of a promise.

On 16.11.23 12:14, Ed Cryer wrote:
> J.B. Nicholson wrote:
>> Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>> If you hive off a version of your own, ok you're on Freedom
>>> Road. But your version will soon be inferior to Betterbird.
>>
>> Maybe for you that's true because perhaps you're not a software
>> developer. But you have no evidence that is true for others, even
>> others who don't know programming now but are willing to learn as they
>> edit code. That's how all programmers started out, after all, even
>> Betterbird's programmers.
>>
>> Your unbacked claim is also a false dichotomy: "inferior" is a vague
>> comparison that isn't for you to determine for others. You pointed out
>> that Betterbird does inherit code from Thunderbird and include
>> modifications all its own. Nothing stops anyone else from doing more
>> of the same; making their derivative to their own liking.
>>
>> There's simply no magic to Betterbird's development here that would,
>> by design, fail for anyone else to leverage their software freedom but
>> remain a valid and reasonable thing for Betterbird to leverage. Your
>> scare talk doesn't convince me at all, there's no reason to try to get
>> software freedom to seem like non-free software dependency.
>
> Well, if that's your bag, man, then that's your bag.
> You'll have to apportion lots of time to keep reading updates and then
> applying them to your thing. Quite apart from whatever dreams you have
> of using the open-source code.
> Are you a Linux fanboy? Of which there are so many varieties and flavours.
> Or maybe a trainee programmer?
>
> Either way I think you're on a course that would be detrimental to the
> T/B.bird project.

Nonsense.

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