On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:51:10 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:53 AM UTC-4, Ajo Wissink wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
>> <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In <7rl6kfl36rq3ca507e97jc77iakdn5ehpo@4ax.com> micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> writes:
>> >
>> >>Email but not Eudora
>> >
>> >>My nephew finally gave me his email address, and it is
>> >>
>> >>first.middlelast@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>where those are his first , mddle, and last names, and there is a dot
>> >>between the first and second, but no dot before the last.
>> >
>> >>I thought that's what he said but figured the connection from South
>> >>America was bad and I put in the extra dot.
>>
>> >>And he got the email anyhow, promptly Because he replied to me
>> >>promptly and his from: address didn't have the second dot.
>> >
>> >the "gmail" e-mail server is pretty lenient about whether
>> >and where you put the periods. So, "first.middle.last" will
>> >often work, as will "firstmiddle.last", and even "first.mid.dle.last".
>> >
>> >About five years ago I read an explanation as to why
>> >they set it up this way, but damn if I remember...
>>
>> It is even more than "pretty lenient".
>> You can put a period between all the characters and it will still
>> work.
>
>Ok, so periods are ignored. Does it do this with other characters like underscore or dashes?

For years I have used a format that included a plus sign (+) to
identify who is selling my addy. In this form:
my.actual.addy+amazon.gmail.com

If I subsequently get spam with that extra +amazon then I pretty well
know that amazon sold me out. (Actually, Amazon didn't - but
others...?)

On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 08:15:26 -0500, welkinator
<welkinator+forte@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:51:10 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:53 AM UTC-4, Ajo Wissink wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
>>> <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In <7rl6kfl36rq3ca507e97jc77iakdn5ehpo@4ax.com> micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> writes:
>>> >
>>> >>Email but not Eudora
>>> >
>>> >>My nephew finally gave me his email address, and it is
>>> >>
>>> >>first.middlelast@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >>where those are his first , mddle, and last names, and there is a dot
>>> >>between the first and second, but no dot before the last.
>>> >
>>> >>I thought that's what he said but figured the connection from South
>>> >>America was bad and I put in the extra dot.
>>>
>>> >>And he got the email anyhow, promptly Because he replied to me
>>> >>promptly and his from: address didn't have the second dot.
>>> >
>>> >the "gmail" e-mail server is pretty lenient about whether
>>> >and where you put the periods. So, "first.middle.last" will
>>> >often work, as will "firstmiddle.last", and even "first.mid.dle.last".
>>> >
>>> >About five years ago I read an explanation as to why
>>> >they set it up this way, but damn if I remember...
>>>
>>> It is even more than "pretty lenient".
>>> You can put a period between all the characters and it will still
>>> work.
>>
>>Ok, so periods are ignored. Does it do this with other characters like underscore or dashes?
>
>For years I have used a format that included a plus sign (+) to
>identify who is selling my addy. In this form:
>my.actual.addy+amazon.gmail.com
>
>If I subsequently get spam with that extra +amazon then I pretty well
>know that amazon sold me out. (Actually, Amazon didn't - but
>others...?)

Arrrggghhh >> my.actual.addy+amazon@gmail.com << of course!

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 9:17:08 AM UTC-4, welkinator wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 08:15:26 -0500, welkinator
> <welkinat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:51:10 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
> ><gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:53 AM UTC-4, Ajo Wissink wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
> >>> <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >In <7rl6kfl36rq3ca507...@4ax.com> micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> writes:
> >>> >
> >>> >>Email but not Eudora
> >>> >
> >>> >>My nephew finally gave me his email address, and it is
> >>> >>
> >>> >>first.mi...@gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> >>where those are his first , mddle, and last names, and there is a dot
> >>> >>between the first and second, but no dot before the last.
> >>> >
> >>> >>I thought that's what he said but figured the connection from South
> >>> >>America was bad and I put in the extra dot.
> >>>
> >>> >>And he got the email anyhow, promptly Because he replied to me
> >>> >>promptly and his from: address didn't have the second dot.
> >>> >
> >>> >the "gmail" e-mail server is pretty lenient about whether
> >>> >and where you put the periods. So, "first.middle.last" will
> >>> >often work, as will "firstmiddle.last", and even "first.mid.dle.last".
> >>> >
> >>> >About five years ago I read an explanation as to why
> >>> >they set it up this way, but damn if I remember...
> >>>
> >>> It is even more than "pretty lenient".
> >>> You can put a period between all the characters and it will still
> >>> work.
> >>
> >>Ok, so periods are ignored. Does it do this with other characters like underscore or dashes?
> >
> >For years I have used a format that included a plus sign (+) to
> >identify who is selling my addy. In this form:
> >my.actual.addy+amazon.gmail.com
> >
> >If I subsequently get spam with that extra +amazon then I pretty well
> >know that amazon sold me out. (Actually, Amazon didn't - but
> >others...?)
> Arrrggghhh >> my.actual....@gmail.com << of course!
Google groups is very odd about email addresses in the message. They hide them supposedly requiring a click and some sort of human detection to see the actual address. But for some time now this has been dysfunctional. Just now it opened a captcha with nothing else on the entire page. Clicking it does nothing. But I get the idea. The dot after amazon should have been an @ no doubt.

So the plus sign and everything after is ignored? Wow!! I just did a test and that works for my domain arius.com email addresses as well. Maybe I can skip the hundreds of web site specific email addresses? No, not really. By giving everyone distinct addresses I can shut off any one offender. I have a few addresses I have done that with when the spam got out of control.

Still, I don't recall ever hearing about this. I wonder if there are any email entry forms that don't allow the plus sign?

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Rick C.

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