Rush, _2112_: Presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3q2bQUCdM

So what's this "Presentation" all about?

This: 🎸

That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
modest use of emojis a pass.

That is my modest proposal.

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(the emoji above is a guitar)

On 2023-03-25, vallor wrote:
> That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
> modest use of emojis a pass.
>

👍

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Tavis Ormandy <taviso@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2023-03-25, vallor wrote:
>> That is to say, modernizing Usenet by giving
>> modest use of emojis a pass.
>>
>
> 👍

I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all I
see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish into
something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
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On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
> I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
> I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
> certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
> into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...

Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish". E.g. space,
or an otherwise innocuous character.

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Grant. . . .
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Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:

> On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
>> I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session
>> all I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could
>> almost certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said
>> gibberish into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
>
> Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
> E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.

This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a
box. If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints
the emoji like it should.
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"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
- Attributed to Albert Einstein

On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

> Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:
>
>> On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
>>> I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
>>> I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
>>> certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
>>> into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
>>
>> Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
>> E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.
>
> This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
> box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
> the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
> code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a box.
> If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints the
> emoji like it should.

I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.

(Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's
command prompts and window title strings,
which should all be properly displayed using xfce4
on Linux Mint.)

Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis
in its internal editor. Yours might also. :)

Live long and prosper. 🖖️

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vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> writes:

> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:
>
>> Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:
>>
>>> On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
>>>> I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session all
>>>> I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could almost
>>>> certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said gibberish
>>>> into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
>>>
>>> Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
>>> E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.
>>
>> This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
>> box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
>> the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the escape
>> code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into a box.
>> If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just prints the
>> emoji like it should.
>
> I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.
>
> (Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's
> command prompts and window title strings,
> which should all be properly displayed using xfce4
> on Linux Mint.)
>
> Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis
> in its internal editor. Yours might also. :)
>
> Live long and prosper. 🖖️

After doing a bit more research, it would appear I have emoji support as
I can run commands like 'M-x emoji-describe', but Emacs just throws an
error, almost certainly due to my highly modified alpha build.

Time to debug some more Elisp...
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"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
- Attributed to Albert Einstein

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:48:30 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:

> vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:07:31 -0500, jeshgrca wrote:
>>
>>> Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/23 6:49 PM, jeshgrca wrote:
>>>>> I understand the purpose, but for me in my text-only Gnus session
>>>>> all I see is some ASCII escape code-looking gibberish. One could
>>>>> almost certainly write some Elisp that causes Gnus to turn said
>>>>> gibberish into something like (guitar) or (smiley) though...
>>>>
>>>> Or at least turn it into something other than "gibberish".
>>>> E.g. space, or an otherwise innocuous character.
>>>
>>> This is what happens if I run Emacs in Xterm; it just makes an empty
>>> box. I would assume it's just using an escape code to show the emoji;
>>> the Linux TTY doesn't kow what to do with it and just prints the
>>> escape code as plain text, while Xterm is smart enough to turn it into
>>> a box. If I run Emacs in a fully graphical session though, it just
>>> prints the emoji like it should.
>>
>> I use xfce4-terminal, which understands UTF-8.
>>
>> (Off topic: one can even have emojis in one's command prompts and
>> window title strings,
>> which should all be properly displayed using xfce4 on Linux Mint.)
>>
>> Additionally, my newsreader (pan) supports inserting emojis in its
>> internal editor. Yours might also. :)
>>
>> Live long and prosper. 🖖️
>
> After doing a bit more research, it would appear I have emoji support as
> I can run commands like 'M-x emoji-describe', but Emacs just throws an
> error, almost certainly due to my highly modified alpha build.
>
> Time to debug some more Elisp...

(What does bleeding-edge Emacs give you that a standard installation
doesn't?)

Seems like Gnus should "just handle it", assuming you're using
a UTF-8 terminal...alas, it would appear that your xterm
is just too old to understand UTF-8.

✍️

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