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* C&T PS/2 Chipsetsschimmi
+* Re: C&T PS/2 ChipsetsTomas Slavotinek
|`* Re: C&T PS/2 Chipsetsschimmi
| `- Re: C&T PS/2 ChipsetsTomas Slavotinek
`* Re: C&T PS/2 ChipsetsLouis Ohland
 `- Re: C&T PS/2 Chipsetsschimmi

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Subject: C&T PS/2 Chipsets
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 by: schimmi - Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:40 UTC

Hey there,
just stumpled across this one: http://bitsavers.org/magazines/Mini-Micro_Systems/198803.pdf Page 12 - following. I'm wondering, if they ever built some machines around this C&T Chipset :O
Regards,
Stefan

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From: slavotinek@gmail.com (Tomas Slavotinek)
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Subject: Re: C&T PS/2 Chipsets
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:08:21 +0100
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:08 UTC

Reply Model 32:
https://ardent-tool.com/Reply/Model_32.html

Model 70 Reply planar:
https://ardent-tool.com/Reply/OEM_70.html

Possibly the CompuStar beast (in some configurations):
https://www.ardent-tool.com/CompuStar/CompuStar.html

And probably some other...

I imagine that many of the "no-name" MCA clones were based on this
chipset as well (or one of its brothers). But most of these machines
were either just a "paper launch" or actually shipped but are long lost
in the sands of time.

On 27.01.2022 23:40, schimmi wrote:
> Hey there,
> just stumpled across this one: http://bitsavers.org/magazines/Mini-Micro_Systems/198803.pdf Page 12 - following. I'm wondering, if they ever built some machines around this C&T Chipset :O
> Regards,
> Stefan

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 by: schimmi - Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:51 UTC

Hi Tom,

thank you, as always. I didn't notice these Reply Boards had these chips. As you propably know, these Upgrade-Boards are not that common here in Europe :(

Regards,
Stefan

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Subject: Re: C&T PS/2 Chipsets
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:15 UTC

I'm aware, Stefan, believe me. I've seen a nude virgin riding a unicorn.
Twice. But only one Reply board so far...

The Mini-Micro Systems article is in our stash now:
https://ardent-tool.com/docs/articles.html#MM_Systems
Thanks for posting this!

P.S. Anyone needs a unicorn?

On 28.01.2022 0:51, schimmi wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> thank you, as always. I didn't notice these Reply Boards had these chips. As you propably know, these Upgrade-Boards are not that common here in Europe :(
>
> Regards,
> Stefan

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From: ohland@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: Re: C&T PS/2 Chipsets
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:58:17 -0600
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 by: Louis Ohland - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:58 UTC

Second, Chips has added four programmable decoders that let OEMs avoid
adding discrete logic devices to control such things as panel lights,
password control and networking support.

On 1/27/2022 16:40, schimmi wrote:
> Hey there,
> just stumpled across this one: http://bitsavers.org/magazines/Mini-Micro_Systems/198803.pdf Page 12 - following. I'm wondering, if they ever built some machines around this C&T Chipset :O
> Regards,
> Stefan

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 by: schimmi - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:55 UTC

Louis Ohland schrieb am Freitag, 28. Januar 2022 um 20:00:31 UTC+1:
> Second, Chips has added four programmable decoders that let OEMs avoid
> adding discrete logic devices to control such things as panel lights,
> password control and networking support.
> On 1/27/2022 16:40, schimmi wrote:
> > Hey there,
> > just stumpled across this one: http://bitsavers.org/magazines/Mini-Micro_Systems/198803.pdf Page 12 - following. I'm wondering, if they ever built some machines around this C&T Chipset :O
> > Regards,
> > Stefan
Third,
the article had a massive complex about compatibility (the part they stated, you could easily place original IBM ROMs instead of the C&T ones) - now i'm curious what happens here with the bull micral - maybe Headland had the same intention as C&T? From your perspective - what's the closest match to a PS/2? I'll test the Model 70 (non cpu-daughterboard, non cache variant) ROMs first - and of course i use parts that are at least electrically compatible :)
Regards,
Stefan

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