Hi All,

thunderbird-115.3.2-1.fc38.x86_64

In my userCyrome.css, I have

tabs-toolbar {
order: 0;
}

toolbar-menubar {
order: -10;
}

unified-toolbar {
order: 2;
}

unifiedToolbarContainer {
order: -4;
}

Attached image: https://ibb.co/WHgSr4S

Question 1: In the attached image, which of the numbered
tool bars corresponds to the entries in my useChrome.css?

Question 2: how do I modify my userChrome.css, such that
the toolbars in the image are arranged top to bottom:
1,2,3,4 (numbered tabs on the image).

Many thanks,
-T

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> thunderbird-115.3.2-1.fc38.x86_64
>
> In my userCyrome.css, I have
>
> tabs-toolbar {
> order: 0;
> }
>
> toolbar-menubar {
> order: -10;
> }
>
> unified-toolbar {
> order: 2;
> }
>
> unifiedToolbarContainer {
> order: -4;
> }
>
> Attached image: https://ibb.co/WHgSr4S
>
> Question 1: In the attached image, which of the numbered
> tool bars corresponds to the entries in my useChrome.css?
>
> Question 2: how do I modify my userChrome.css, such that
> the toolbars in the image are arranged top to bottom:
> 1,2,3,4 (numbered tabs on the image).

Hi, T.

Answer 1:
According to your screenshot:

1(3) #unifiedToolbarContainer
2 #toolbar-menubar
3 #unifiedToolbar (inside #unifiedToolbarContainer)
4 #tabs-toolbar

Answer 2:

You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
(unifiedToolbarContainer).

But you can use system window title: Settings -> General -> Uncheck
"Hide system window titlebar".

Then try this:

#toolbar-menubar {
order: -2;
}

You don't need to set other bars in your userChrome.css.
In this case toolbars will be in the following order:
1 System window titlebar
2 Menubar
3 Unified Toolbar
4 TabBar

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.

DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
> (unifiedToolbarContainer).

To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.

On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>
> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>

Thank you!

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>
>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>
>
> Thank you!

You are welcome.
Did it work for you?

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.

On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>
>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>
> You are welcome.
> Did it work for you?
>

I have not had a chance to work on it! Maybe
Friday. I will get back.

On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>
>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>
>> You are welcome.
>> Did it work for you?
>>
>
>
> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
> Friday.   I will get back.

I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:03:39 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
>> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>>
>>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> You are welcome.
>>> Did it work for you?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
>> Friday.   I will get back.
>
>
>I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places

I notice DrunkenThon suggested a short userChrome entry... but looking
at mine (provided by Andy Burns IIRC when TB 115/Super Nova first
surfaced) is:

----

#toolbar-menubar
{
order:-1
}

----

(Note *-1* not *-2*?)

That places my menubar above the unified toolbar:

<https://postimg.cc/94tYX7bD>

On 10/20/23 15:56, Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:03:39 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
>>> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> You are welcome.
>>>> Did it work for you?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
>>> Friday.   I will get back.
>>
>>
>> I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places
>
> I notice DrunkenThon suggested a short userChrome entry... but looking
> at mine (provided by Andy Burns IIRC when TB 115/Super Nova first
> surfaced) is:
>
> ----
>
> #toolbar-menubar
> {
> order:-1
> }
>
> ----
>
> (Note *-1* not *-2*?)
>
> That places my menubar above the unified toolbar:
>
> <https://postimg.cc/94tYX7bD>

No joy. :'(

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 10/20/23 15:56, Nobody wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:03:39 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
>>>> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> You are welcome.
>>>>> Did it work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
>>>> Friday.   I will get back.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places
>>
>> I notice DrunkenThon suggested a short userChrome entry... but looking
>> at mine (provided by Andy Burns IIRC when TB 115/Super Nova first
>> surfaced) is:
>>
>> ----
>>
>> #toolbar-menubar
>> {
>> order:-1
>> }
>>
>> ----
>>
>> (Note *-1* not *-2*?)
>>
>> That places my menubar above the unified toolbar:
>>
>> <https://postimg.cc/94tYX7bD>
>
>
> No joy. :'(

Do other styles work?
Do you have toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
option set to *true* in *Config editor*?

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> thunderbird-115.3.2-1.fc38.x86_64
>
> In my userCyrome.css, I have

Was it a mistype?
The filename is userChrome.css.

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.

On 10/20/23 06:56 PM, this is what Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:03:39 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
>>> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> You are welcome.
>>>> Did it work for you?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
>>> Friday.   I will get back.
>>
>>
>> I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places
>
> I notice DrunkenThon suggested a short userChrome entry... but looking
> at mine (provided by Andy Burns IIRC when TB 115/Super Nova first
> surfaced) is:
>
> ----
>
> #toolbar-menubar
> {
> order:-1
> }
>
> ----
>
> (Note *-1* not *-2*?)
>
> That places my menubar above the unified toolbar:
>
> <https://postimg.cc/94tYX7bD>

Not sure if this helps, but I have these 3 lines in mine.
I'm not sure what the negative numbers do, but I just order mine 1 2 3

#toolbar-menubar { order: 1; }
unified-toolbar { order: 2; }
#tabs-toolbar { order: 3; }

This is top down order. Obviously you can renumber 2 1 3 or whatever.
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

On 10/25/23 10:36, DrunkenThon wrote:
> Do you have
> toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets option set to *true*
> in *Config editor*?

I do now and it is working now. Mumble, Mumble ...

Thank you!

On 10/25/23 10:41, DrunkenThon wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> thunderbird-115.3.2-1.fc38.x86_64
>>
>> In my userCyrome.css, I have
>
> Was it a mistype?
> The filename is userChrome.css.
>

It was indeed a type. Luckily, the actual file
name was correct.

On 10/25/23 14:40, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/20/23 06:56 PM, this is what Nobody wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:03:39 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/19/23 11:24, T wrote:
>>>> On 10/19/23 02:43, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/17/23 12:31, DrunkenThon wrote:
>>>>>>> DrunkenThon <drunkenthon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You cannot split 1 and 3 because 3 (unifiedToolbar) is inside 1
>>>>>>>> (unifiedToolbarContainer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To correct myself: both 1 and 3 *are* inside
>>>>>>> #unifiedToolbarContainer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> You are welcome.
>>>>> Did it work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have not had a chance to work on it!   Maybe
>>>> Friday.   I will get back.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can not get 2 and 1/3 to swap places
>>
>> I notice DrunkenThon suggested a short userChrome entry... but looking
>> at mine (provided by Andy Burns IIRC when TB 115/Super Nova first
>> surfaced) is:
>>
>> ----
>>
>> #toolbar-menubar
>>     {
>>     order:-1
>>     }
>>
>> ----
>>
>> (Note *-1* not *-2*?)
>>
>> That places my menubar above the unified toolbar:
>>
>> <https://postimg.cc/94tYX7bD>
>
> Not sure if this helps, but I have these 3 lines in mine.
> I'm not sure what the negative numbers do, but I just order mine 1 2 3
>
> #toolbar-menubar { order: 1; }
> unified-toolbar { order: 2;  }
> #tabs-toolbar { order: 3;  }
>
> This is top down order.  Obviously you can renumber 2 1 3 or whatever.

Hi Al,

Soon as I put Drunken's

toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
option set to *true*

It started working with your settings.

Thank you!

-T

My new user chrome.css:

/* ####### */
@namespace html url("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml");

/* This borders */
#messengerBox {
border-right: 1px solid green !important;
border-left: 1px solid green !important;
}

/* set about:config toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
= True */
/* top down order */
#toolbar-menubar { order: 1; }
unified-toolbar { order: 2; }
#tabs-toolbar { order: 3; }

/* add a border to unfocused tabs for accent */
..tabmail-tab { border-radius: 10px 10px 0 0 !important;
border: 1px solid #aaa !important;
border-bottom: none !important; }

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> My new user chrome.css:
>
> /* ####### */
> @namespace html url("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml");
>
> /* set about:config toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
> = True */
> /* top down order */
> #toolbar-menubar { order: 1; }
> unified-toolbar { order: 2; }
> #tabs-toolbar { order: 3; }

Glad it worked for you.
But, for the sake of clarity, you don't need to reorder all of them.

Here is the original order inside vbox#titlebar:
unified-toolbar
#toolbar-menubar
#tabs-toolbar

So, you only need to place toolbar#toolbar-menubar at the top.
And that's what
toolbar#toolbar-menubar {order: -1 !important; }
actually does.

And Nobody was right: -1 is enough here (I just have another order
in mine.) :)

--
Best regards,
DrunkenThon.