I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.

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On 11/04/2024 04:46, SugarBug wrote:
> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.
>

news.admin.technical (moderated)
news.software.nntp
news.admin.peering
alt.sysadmin.recovery
alt.sysadmin.bofh
some other's (just monitor)

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In article <214e5c5832227dee9b2773209d9a0996$1@sybershock.com>,
SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:
>I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments.
>Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to?
>Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of
>the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.
>
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>

Peers and usenet abuse groups!
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:34:02 +0200, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

> On 11/04/2024 04:46, SugarBug wrote:
>> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.
>>
>
> news.admin.technical (moderated)
> news.software.nntp
> news.admin.peering
> alt.sysadmin.recovery
> alt.sysadmin.bofh
> some other's (just monitor)

I would add:

news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote at 02:46 this Thursday (GMT):
> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.

Slightly different, but news.lists.filters is good for nocems.
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On 11.04.2024 um 15:30 Uhr candycanearter07 wrote:

> SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote at 02:46 this Thursday (GMT):
> > I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
> > developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay
> > subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want
> > to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information
> > overload.
>
>
> Slightly different, but news.lists.filters is good for nocems.

At least when human read that groups, that will be an information
overload. :-)
Except for that, there are not much messages in the news.* hierarchy,
so subscribing top all should be ok.

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On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.
>
None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you want
to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The best way
is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to keep up-to-date
with new things happening in the IT world. Newsgroups are for trolling
and scoring points against each other and people with any sound brain
should stay away from them.

There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working on
anything new. It is dull and outdated.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:50:18 +0100, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net> wrote:
>On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
>> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which
>> are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important?
>> Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like
>> to avoid information overload.
>
>Google is the best way to keep up-to-date

"Who's the most important man this country ever knew?
Who's the man our presidents tell all their troubles to?
No, it isn't Mr. Bryan and it isn't Mr. Hughes;
I'm mighty proud that I'm allowed a chance to introduce:

Barney Google - with the goo, goo, googly eyes,
Barney Google - bet his horse would win the prize;
When the horses ran that day,
Spark Plug ran the other way!
Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

Who's the greatest lover that this country ever knew?
Who's the man that Valentino takes his hat off to?
No, it isn't Douglas Fairbanks that the ladies rave about;
When he arrives, who makes the wives chase all their husbands out?

Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes,
Barney Google - had a wife three times his size;
She sued Barney for divorce,
Now he's sleeping with his horse!
Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

--song by Billy Rose and Con Conrad
(c)1923 Jerome H Remick & Co., New York, Detroit
by permission of DeBeck, creator of 'Barney Google'
King Features Syndicate, Inc. "Great Britain Rights Reserved"

On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net> wrote:
> On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
>> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.
>>
> None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you want
> to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The best way
> is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to keep up-to-date
> with new things happening in the IT world. Newsgroups are for trolling
> and scoring points against each other and people with any sound brain
> should stay away from them.
>
> There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working on
> anything new. It is dull and outdated.
>
This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone else
estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.
In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
also contribute to some alt.* etc.
There has been new groups added and some old removed.

we FINALLY have google leave us alone, usenet now is better than
in the last 10 years.
choose a node that has only plain text groups and are active
with spam and bs.

I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
claps, specially mastodon.

Happy Hacking
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On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:

> On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
> wrote:
> > On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
> >> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
> >> developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
> >> stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
> >> I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
> >> information overload.
> > None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
> > want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
> > best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
> > keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
> > Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
> > and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.
> >
> > There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
> > on anything new. It is dull and outdated.
> >
> This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
> at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
> only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
> else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.

Which nodes are you talking about?

> In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
> month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
> also contribute to some alt.* etc.

That sounds good.

> I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
> social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
> claps, specially mastodon.

I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
the same as on Twitter.
It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
have real threads.

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On 2024-04-14, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> the same as on Twitter.
> It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
> have real threads.

True, you will prob like more lemmy is the response of the free internet
to reddit https://join-lemmy.org/

I agree with mastodon, we use it for anouncements and chit chat
but anything usefull just gets losts, so lemmy much better
and honestly usenet much better ;)

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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
>> wrote:
>> > On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
>> >> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
>> >> developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
>> >> stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
>> >> I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
>> >> information overload.
>> > None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
>> > want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
>> > best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
>> > keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
>> > Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
>> > and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.
>> >
>> > There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
>> > on anything new. It is dull and outdated.
>> >
>> This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
>> at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
>> only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
>> else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.
>
> Which nodes are you talking about?
>
>> In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
>> month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
>> also contribute to some alt.* etc.
>
> That sounds good.
>
>> I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
>> social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
>> claps, specially mastodon.
>
> I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
> the same as on Twitter.
> It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
> have real threads.
>

Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
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In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
>> On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
>>> >> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
>>> >> developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
>>> >> stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
>>> >> I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
>>> >> information overload.
>>> > None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
>>> > want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
>>> > best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
>>> > keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
>>> > Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
>>> > and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.
>>> >
>>> > There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
>>> > on anything new. It is dull and outdated.
>>> >
>>> This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
>>> at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
>>> only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
>>> else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.
>>
>> Which nodes are you talking about?
>>
>>> In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
>>> month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
>>> also contribute to some alt.* etc.
>>
>> That sounds good.
>>
>>> I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
>>> social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
>>> claps, specially mastodon.
>>
>> I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
>> the same as on Twitter.
>> It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
>> have real threads.
>>
>
>
>Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

Administration ther is questionable.

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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote at 16:01 this Monday (GMT):
> In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
>>>> >> I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
>>>> >> developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
>>>> >> stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
>>>> >> I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
>>>> >> information overload.
>>>> > None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
>>>> > want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
>>>> > best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
>>>> > keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
>>>> > Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
>>>> > and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.
>>>> >
>>>> > There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
>>>> > on anything new. It is dull and outdated.
>>>> >
>>>> This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
>>>> at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
>>>> only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
>>>> else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.
>>>
>>> Which nodes are you talking about?
>>>
>>>> In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
>>>> month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
>>>> also contribute to some alt.* etc.
>>>
>>> That sounds good.
>>>
>>>> I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
>>>> social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
>>>> claps, specially mastodon.
>>>
>>> I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
>>> the same as on Twitter.
>>> It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
>>> have real threads.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
>
> Administration ther is questionable.
*there

I'll be honest, I just think the Twitter style of social media isn't for
me. I do have a bluesky acct, but I just post artwork there.
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On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:

> In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
> >Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
>
> Administration ther is questionable.

Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?

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In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> wrote:
>> >Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
>>
>> Administration ther is questionable.
>
>Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?
>

I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .

Why?

The documentation is out of date in Mastodon

that FreeBSD port is better maintained.

>
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>
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On 2024-04-16, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>>On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> wrote:
>>> >Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
>>>
>>> Administration ther is questionable.
>>
>>Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?
>>
>
> I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .
>
> Why?
>
> The documentation is out of date in Mastodon
>
> that FreeBSD port is better maintained.
>
>>
>>--
>>kind regards
>>Marco
>>
>>Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org
>>
>

I believe you, we run a mastodon node for years now hispagatos.space
and instead of using the Arch GNU/Linux "packages" I used and been using
the source code, I just git fetch to the release version and do the
compile. This way I never had an issue.

Happy Hacking
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In article <uvmk1n$bmtq$2@matrix.hispagatos.org>,
rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org> wrote:
>On 2024-04-16, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>>>On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
>>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Administration ther is questionable.
>>>
>>>Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?
>>>
>>
>> I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> The documentation is out of date in Mastodon
>>
>> that FreeBSD port is better maintained.
>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>kind regards
>>>Marco
>>>
>>>Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>I believe you, we run a mastodon node for years now hispagatos.space
>and instead of using the Arch GNU/Linux "packages" I used and been using
>the source code, I just git fetch to the release version and do the
>compile. This way I never had an issue.
>

To each their own choice!

>
>Happy Hacking
>ReK2
>
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