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* Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
+* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019*Hemidactylus*
|`* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| +* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| |`* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| | `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| |  `- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| `- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019RocketSurgeon
+- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
+* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
|`* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019RocketSurgeon
| `- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Alan
+- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
+* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
|`* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019nospam
| +* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Hank Rogers
| |`* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Jolly Roger
| | `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019rdb
| |  +- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Hank Rogers
| |  `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| |   `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Jolly Roger
| |    `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019badgolferman
| |     `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Jolly Roger
| |      `* Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Andy Burnelli
| |       `- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Hank Rogers
| `- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Hank Rogers
`- Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019Wally J

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Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019

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 by: Hank Rogers - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:02 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> What you are deliberately ignoring (naturally, since you are a
>> regular
>> participant in Arlen's regular trolling activities here) is that
>> Arlen
>> isn't a "random stranger" - he is a well-known troll in these
>> newsgroups. And the thread about ad blocking (and 1Blocker) is a
>> perfect
>> example of that, where the OP asked about ad blockers, several
>> people
>> (including me) offered help and recommendations, then Arlen came
>> in and
>> tried to disrupt the conversation with lies about 1Blocker, lies
>> about
>> iOS, and his typical Android zealot blurbs, all while inserting his
>> usual petty insults at anyone who dares to use Apple products
>> along the
>> way. And while he was at it, he made the laughably false claim that
>> 1Blocker supposedly costs *$300* when in reality it is *free* for
>> basic
>> ad blocking, with the option to enable additional more advanced
>> features
>> including OS-level ad blocking for non-browser apps for a one-time
>> (lifetime) payment of $38. Arlen is a troll, and he deserves
>> every bit
>> of ridicule and admonition he gets for his dishonesty and disruption
>> here. But do go on and whine for him because you actively
>> participate in
>> the same juvenile trolls Arlen is well known for here. You two
>> definitely belong together.
>
> These are the "lies" which Jolly Roger speaks of... :)
>
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works
> mostly fine
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store
> installs apps
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do
> iCloud
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/BbX80XwR/mothership12.jpg> 1Blocker Ad
> Blocker IPA
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Get 1Blocker Ad
> Blocker <https:// i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Open
> 1Blocker Ad Blocker
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/6pd8tsY6/mothership14.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad
> Blocker
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/1RjnKr8S/mothership15.jpg> Welcome & Get
> Started
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/W39DCMSM/mothership16.jpg> Enable Safari
> extensions
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/wjJmMRTp/mothership17.jpg> Go to Safari
> Settings
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/tRSPMHmL/mothership18.jpg> Safari 1Blocker
> extensions <https:// i.postimg.cc/W3SrjRpq/mothership19.jpg>
> Enabled Safari extensions
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/9F1WpW87/mothership20.jpg> Note 1Blocker
> Scripts
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/vHT7YmVY/mothership21.jpg> Enable 1Blocker
> Scripts
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/FzsyJrCx/mothership22.jpg> 1Blocker Scripts
> turned on
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/pXcZzjH5/mothership23.jpg> Explore Premium
> Features
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/660z6Sb0/mothership24.jpg> Works only in Safari
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't
> work
> <https:// i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> What you get for
> your $$$
>
> HINT: They're screenshots of facts which I tested myself on my own
> iPad
> because the iKooks told me how "great" this program was at ad
> blocking.

You would cease to exist without iKooks.

And the iKooks would wither too.

Re: Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019

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 by: Wally J - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 01:24 UTC

I am openly admitting I made a mistake today which Dorper
kindly caught, in that the actively exploited zero-day hole
which has been exploiting a "quite extensive" list of Apple
devices (see list below) for years - was a _local_ exploit!

See details below where I commend Dorper for his adult
cognitive skills - which - let's face it - are rare here.

Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote

>> hackers don't even need to be within a thousand miles of your phone to
>> completely and fully take it over any time they want to - for years!
>
>> A local attacker may be able to elevate their privileges.
>> Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively
>> exploited against versions of iOS before iOS 16.6.
>
> Wally would you mind explaining what the word "local" means?

You're right! I made a minor mistake - but it's a mistake nonetheless.
And you caught it.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Wow. An intelligent person on the Apple newsgroup.
Now that's a shock.

I'm not used to people like you on the Apple newsgroups, Dorper.
"The zero-day (CVE-2023-42824) is caused by a weakness discovered
in the XNU kernel that enables *local* attackers to escalate
privileges on unpatched iPhones and iPads."

"The list of impacted devices is quite extensive, and it includes:
iPhone XS and later, plus
iPad Pro 12.9-inch 2nd generation and later, plus
iPad Pro 10.5-inch, iPad Pro 11-inch 1st generation and later, plus
iPad Air 3rd generation and later, plus
iPad 6th generation and later, plus
and iPad mini 5th generation and later"

Kudos to you for being able to comprehend at the adult detail level!
(All the iKooks ever do is deny every fact about Apple ever existing.)

<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/apple/apple-emergency-update-fixes-new-zero-day-used-to-hack-iphones/>

I agree with you (as I never disagree with any sensible statement).
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213961>

You're completely correct that I was referring to the long-exploited
security hole in iOS before 16.6 to now - which was a "local" exploit!

Everything I said was correct _except_ for the thousand miles in
that one case - but let's look at the other zero-days in this release.
libvpx 1.13.1 [CVE-2023-5217]
"Apple also addressed a zero-day tracked as CVE-2023-5217
and caused by a heap buffer overflow weakness in the VP8 encoding
of the open-source libvpx video codec library."

Notice iOS has two to three times the number of zero-day holes than
does Android - and more than ten times the active exploits...
"17 zero-days exploited in attacks fixed this year"

Where the main reason iOS is so incredibly insecure is mostly due to
the primitive monolithic release mechanism that only Apple uses.

Nobody. Nobody at all. Nobody else who makes an OS uses the primitive
monolithic system that Apple uses - and all support more than 1 release!

Because of that, Apple will _always_ have the least secure devices
(because it gives attackers tons & tons of time to attack - that's why).
--
My job on the child-like Apple newsgroups is to bring up the truth
and to show the ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks for what they are.

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