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* Message displayStefano L.
`* Message displayJeff Barnett
 +* Message displayAndy Burns
 |+* Message displayJeff Layman
 ||+- Message displayNobody
 ||`* Message displayAndy Burns
 || +- Message displayJeff Layman
 || `* Message displayPaul
 ||  `- Message displayAndy Burns
 |`- Message displayJeff Barnett
 +- Message displayCarlos E. R.
 `* Message displayPaul
  `- Message displayStefano L.

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From: losteno@vodafone.it (Stefano L.)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Subject: Message display
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:35:43 +0200
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 by: Stefano L. - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 14:35 UTC
Attachments: "Screenshot 2023-10-20 163135.png" (image/png)

Hi.

Would it be possible to transform the message display as per the
attached image?

Thanks, Stefano.

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From: jbb@notatt.com (Jeff Barnett)
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Subject: Re: Message display
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 by: Jeff Barnett - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:58 UTC

On 10/20/2023 8:35 AM, Stefano L. wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Would it be possible to transform the message display as per the
> attached image?

I have no thoughts on your question per se. However, I'm curious how you
were able to attach a file to your message and post it to an all text
group? (Emphasis on the word "attach".)
--
Jeff Barnett

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Subject: Re: Message display
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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:02 UTC

Jeff Barnett wrote:

> I'm curious how you were able to attach a file to your message and
> post it to an all text group?
I didn't arrive on N-I-N, so maybe poor server administration where you
did see it?

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Subject: Re: Message display
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 by: Jeff Layman - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:48 UTC

On 20/10/2023 18:02, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> Jeff Barnett wrote:
>
>> I'm curious how you were able to attach a file to your message and
>> post it to an all text group?
> I didn't arrive on N-I-N, so maybe poor server administration where you
>
It came through on Eternal-September, but the whole message is missing
on Solani - not just the attachment. Ray doesn't normally allow
attachments from what I remember.

--

Jeff

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 by: Nobody - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:56 UTC

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:48:03 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 20/10/2023 18:02, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>> Jeff Barnett wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious how you were able to attach a file to your message and
>>> post it to an all text group?
>> I didn't arrive on N-I-N, so maybe poor server administration where you
>>

>It came through on Eternal-September.

Ditto.

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 by: Jeff Barnett - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:17 UTC

On 10/20/2023 11:02 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> Jeff Barnett wrote:
>
>> I'm curious how you were able to attach a file to your message and
>> post it to an all text group?
> I didn't arrive on N-I-N, so maybe poor server administration where you
> did see it?

E-S
--
Jeff Barnett

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 21:02 UTC

On 2023-10-20 17:58, Jeff Barnett wrote:
> On 10/20/2023 8:35 AM, Stefano L. wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Would it be possible to transform the message display as per the
>> attached image?
>
> I have no thoughts on your question per se. However, I'm curious how you
> were able to attach a file to your message and post it to an all text
> group? (Emphasis on the word "attach".)

I do not see his message at all, on individual.net

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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 by: Paul - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:02 UTC

On 10/20/2023 11:58 AM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
> On 10/20/2023 8:35 AM, Stefano L. wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Would it be possible to transform the message display as per the attached image?
>
> I have no thoughts on your question per se. However, I'm curious how you were able to attach a file to your message and post it to an all text group? (Emphasis on the word "attach".)

The usual way.

It suggests a "certain filter" isn't working.

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http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugu37p%2414p59%241%40dont-email.me%3E

For the audience, here is the picture reposted on an image server.
Yes, I fiddled the contrast a bit. Nobody wants zero-contrast-color-themes.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/25mVMYHh/sample-email-display.gif

In the source tarball, I have spotted the word "Android" in there,
so who knows what will eventually happen.

Paul

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 by: Andy Burns - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:57 UTC

Jeff Layman wrote:

> It came through on Eternal-September, but the whole message is missing
> on Solani - not just the attachment. Ray doesn't normally allow
> attachments from what I remember.

Possibly E-S allows binaries to test groups and local hierarchy groups?

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 by: Jeff Layman - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:56 UTC

On 21/10/2023 14:57, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>
>> It came through on Eternal-September, but the whole message is missing
>> on Solani - not just the attachment. Ray doesn't normally allow
>> attachments from what I remember.
>
> Possibly E-S allows binaries to test groups and local hierarchy groups?

I asked on eternal-september.support why it got through on E-S, and Ray
replied "Cleanfeed (latest version from Steve Crook's git repository)
doesn't seem to handle Content-Disposition: attachment properly."

--

Jeff

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 by: Paul - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:55 UTC

On 10/21/2023 9:57 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>
>> It came through on Eternal-September, but the whole message is missing on Solani - not just the attachment. Ray doesn't normally allow attachments from what I remember.
>
> Possibly E-S allows binaries to test groups and local hierarchy groups?
>

He's doing a lot of work on filtering, and some of the
stuff likely hasn't been put back yet.

If you tell him something has broken loose, if he is available,
he fixes it fairly quickly.

Usually, the filter policies, match group charters. He has a
small number of binary groups, which would require attachments,
and that would be an example of where an attachment would be accepted.
There is some sort of size limit on attachments, and there would be
an anti-movie filter on there as well. (You can't run services
like this, without armor-plating.)

Even Howard, the lookup server, needed to have policy changes to handle
abuse. Some movie-people tried to use it as an all-you-can-eat movie
server. This forced the Howard operator to "truncate" long posts, ruining
the integrity of the service. At the end of a long message, the
Howard server will say "truncated" to mark the fact the end of the
message is missing (on purpose).

Paul

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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 10:02 UTC

Paul wrote:

> He's doing a lot of work on filtering, and some of the stuff likely
> hasn't been put back yet. If you tell him something has broken loose, if
> he is available, he fixes it fairly quickly.

I'm not an E-S user, I just keep half an ear open, he seems to have
enough users providing him feedback, including those who want the
filtering to precisely match what *they* think should be filtered, not
just the obvious spam.

> Even Howard,
> the lookup server, needed to have policy changes to handle abuse. Some
> movie-people tried to use it as an all-you-can-eat movie server. This
> forced the Howard operator to "truncate" long posts, ruining the
> integrity of the service. At the end of a long message, the Howard
> server will say "truncated" to mark the fact the end of the message is
> missing (on purpose).

I thought it was good of him to reverse his decision to shut it down a
few years ago, and indeed to reimplement it, to keep it going. I hadn't
noticed any such "truncated" articles, but can see it must be necessary.

Re: Message display

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From: losteno@vodafone.it (Stefano L.)
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Subject: Re: Message display
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 by: Stefano L. - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:09 UTC

Il 21/10/2023 00:02, Paul ha scritto:
> On 10/20/2023 11:58 AM, Jeff Barnett wrote:

>>> Hi.
>>> Would it be possible to transform the message display as per the attached image?

Hi.

I apologize if I created problems for the group, it was not my
intention: attaching the 'image to the message was sent to me (first
time in my life that I do this).
Next time I will post a link to it.
Apologies again.

Stefano.


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