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* so much vi talk...Julieta Shem
+- Re: so much vi talk...Janis Papanagnou
`* Re: EmacsLawrence D'Oliveiro
 `* Re: EmacsJanis Papanagnou
  `- Re: EmacsLawrence D'Oliveiro

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so much vi talk...

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 by: Julieta Shem - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 00:21 UTC

Let's remember a simple fact, though:

https://sinistercode.com/public/donnie/blog/emacs

:)

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From: janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou)
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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:31 UTC

On 05.03.2024 01:21, Julieta Shem wrote:
> Let's remember a simple fact, though:

What fact? That there are lots of other editors? I'd guess the folks
in this newsgroup all know that.

> https://sinistercode.com/public/donnie/blog/emacs

(My browser doesn't show anything with that page link.) If there's
any "simple fact" there that's relevant to discuss feel free to post
it here.

(But also note that there's quite some emacs specific newsgroups, so
it might not be the best place depending on what your discussion fact
actually is.)

Janis

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:22 UTC

Emacs is the world’s most powerful editor.

Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary files,
too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.

Current versions of Emacs even have the basics of a GUI toolkit built in.
You can attach “overlays” to parts of your buffer contents, which modify
or even completely replace the way those contents are displayed.

For example, I wrote expand/collapse commands which selectively show/hide
parts of the buffer contents.

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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 05:25 UTC

On 05.03.2024 04:22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Emacs is the world’s most powerful editor.

And I mistook it for an IDE that is yet incapable of brewing coffee. :-)

>
> Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary files,
> too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.

Isn't that a not uncommon editor feature? (I've seen it in several
places.) - In Vim there is (to my knowledge) no built-in support;
you use existing tools like xxd from within Vim. Not sure there's
an advantage to have an own implementation built in.

> [...]
>
> For example, I wrote expand/collapse commands which selectively show/hide
> parts of the buffer contents.

Is that the same that is called "folding" in Vim? (Vim supports a
couple folding methods.)

Janis

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 07:12 UTC

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:25:52 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> On 05.03.2024 04:22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary
>> files, too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.
>
> Isn't that a not uncommon editor feature? (I've seen it in several
> places.) - In Vim there is (to my knowledge) no built-in support;
> you use existing tools like xxd from within Vim. Not sure there's
> an advantage to have an own implementation built in.

Nothing about an “own implementation”, based on any kind of dump
conversion requirement. It’s just of the regular file-editing facility,
not a special mode or anything.


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