Finally getting around to an upgrade...

<http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>

-hh

On 2023-12-29 13:27, -hh wrote:
> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>
> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>
>
> -hh

Cool!

On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>
> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>
>
> -hh

You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny. Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this. Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >
> > <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>
> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.

Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.

> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.

Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.

> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
"https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.

That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.

-hh

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > >
> > > <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >
> > You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
> > Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
> > Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> > Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> > get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
>
> -hh

After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.

On 2023-12-31 14:22, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>
>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny. Just get a newer
> Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than
> this. Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very
> useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount for your
> phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.

What an absolutely consistent, shallow asshole you are!

"Mine's bigger than yours" is the highest level of discourse you possess.

On 2023-12-31 14:51, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>
>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>
>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
>> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
>>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
>>> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
>> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
>>
>> -hh
>
> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.

Graciously admitting your error as...

Oh, wait!

Failing to acknowledge your error...

....as always!

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > > >
> > > > <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > >
> > > You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> >
> > Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
> > But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
> >
> > > Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
> >
> > Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
> >
> > > Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> > > Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> > > get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> > "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> >
> > That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
> > 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
> >
>
> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord
> for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen.

“Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could rationalize stretching for
would be just a twenty year old used example.

> I have better uses for the money.

Meaning day-to-day living expenses.

-hh

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:56:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-12-31 14:51, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >>>
> >>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> >> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
> >> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
> >>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
> >> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
> >>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> >>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> >>> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> >> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> >> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
> >> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> >> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.
>
> Graciously admitting your error as...
>
> Oh, wait!
>
> Failing to acknowledge your error...
>
> ...as always!

How gauche. Merely YA distraction attempt, trying to find a hopefully plausible
tangent to save face on, rather than to simply admit being wrong.

-hh

On 2023-12-31 16:29, -hh wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:56:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-12-31 14:51, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
>>>> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
>>>>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
>>>>> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
>>>> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>
>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.
>>
>> Graciously admitting your error as...
>>
>> Oh, wait!
>>
>> Failing to acknowledge your error...
>>
>> ...as always!
>
> How gauche. Merely YA distraction attempt, trying to find a hopefully plausible
> tangent to save face on, rather than to simply admit being wrong.

It's really more sad than anything else, isn't it?

It's a pattern that I find quite common on Usenet.

There's a guy on here who insists that I can't possibly being a road
racer, road racing instructor...

....or even own a BMW...

....because I don't use the terms "beemer" or "bimmer"...

....and haven't heard anyone in racing EVER refer to the curve described
by a racing car at the limit as being a "catenary".

:-)

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-31 16:29, -hh wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:56:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-31 14:51, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
>>>>> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
>>>>>> something bigger than this.
>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche
>>>>>> doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
>>>>>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't
>>>>>> afford another Porsche
>>>>>> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
>>>>> version, which is for the newer
>>>>> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you
>>>>> Tommy is that 996’s and
>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now
>>>>> cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022
>>>> Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But
>>>> not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.
>>>
>>> Graciously admitting your error as...
>>>
>>> Oh, wait!
>>>
>>> Failing to acknowledge your error...
>>>
>>> ...as always!
>>
>> How gauche. Merely YA distraction attempt, trying to find a hopefully plausible
>> tangent to save face on, rather than to simply admit being wrong.
>
> It's really more sad than anything else, isn't it?

It happens.

> It's a pattern that I find quite common on Usenet.

It happens surprisingly frequently.

> There's a guy on here who insists that I can't possibly being a road
> racer, road racing instructor...
>
> ...or even own a BMW...
>
> ...because I don't use the terms "beemer" or "bimmer"...
>
> ...and haven't heard anyone in racing EVER refer to the curve described
> by a racing car at the limit as being a "catenary".
>
> :-)

Merely illustrates their own obsession to try to feel relevant/important.

Funniest stuff is how often they can get tripped up (& triggered) by
simple stuff. I recall a story of one who bragged about being well enough
off to have had a SEL560 .. and yet an innocuous comment on how luxury
cars were being used as a tax dodge happened to solidly hit home: braggart

was suddenly spitting mad, shouting that he beat that IRS audit on the
car.
Yeah, it was being claimed as a “business expense” & he got caught,
both
by the IRS as well as on his self-aggrandizing internet prosperity brag.

-hh

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > > Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > > >
> > > > You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> > >
> > > Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio..
> > > But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
> > >
> > > > Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
> > >
> > > Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
> > >
> > > > Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> > > > Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> > > > get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> > > "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> > >
> > > That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
> > > 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > > 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
> > >
> >
> > After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord
> > for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen.
> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could rationalize stretching for
> would be just a twenty year old used example.
> > I have better uses for the money.
> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
>
> -hh

I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars are transportation.

If you count vacations, charitable giving, flying us to places instead of driving and reinvestment as day-to-day living expenses then yes.

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:56:57 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-12-31 14:51, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >>>
> >>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> >> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio.
> >> But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard constraint of being single DIN.
> >>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than this.
> >> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
> >>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
> >>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche
> >>> get a mount for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> >> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units" that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> >> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the newer
> >> 996 & 986 (first generation water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> >> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even within _your_ budget.
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the difference. But not going to happen. I have better uses for the money.
> Graciously admitting your error as...
>
> Oh, wait!
>
> Failing to acknowledge your error...
>
> ...as always!

What "error" is that?

On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>>
>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
>>>>
>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
>>>>> something bigger than this.
>>>>
>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
>>>> anymore .. at any price.
>>>>
>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
>>>>> found on
>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
>>>> within _your_ budget.
>>>>
>>>
>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
>>> difference. But not going to happen.
>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
>> example.
>>> I have better uses for the money.
>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
>>
>> -hh
>
> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> are transportation.

For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
us must do every day more enjoyable.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> >>>>
> >>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> >>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> >>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> >>>>> something bigger than this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> >>>> anymore .. at any price.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> >>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> >>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> >>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> >>>>> found on
> >>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> >>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> >>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> >>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> >>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> >>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> >>>> within _your_ budget.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> >>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> >>> difference. But not going to happen.
> >> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> >> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> >> example.
> >>> I have better uses for the money.
> >> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> >
> >
> > I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> > either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> > are transportation.
>
> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> us must do every day more enjoyable.

Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.

-hh

On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
>>>>>>> found on
>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
>>>> example.
>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
>>> are transportation.
>>
>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
>
> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
>
> -hh

And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
doing things...

....as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
them.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
>>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
>>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
>>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
>>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
>>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
>>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
>>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
>>>>>>>> found on
>>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
>>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
>>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
>>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
>>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
>>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
>>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
>>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
>>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
>>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
>>>>> example.
>>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
>>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
>>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
>>>> are transportation.
>>>
>>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
>>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
>>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
>>
>> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
>> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
>
> And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> doing things...
>
> ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> them.

The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.

For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
draw from.

It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.

But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.

-hh

PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
“Meh” so far.

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-12-31 14:22, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >>
> >> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >>
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny. Just get a newer
> > Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least something bigger than
> > this. Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> > radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still very
> > useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount for your
> > phone. That would work as well as than your unit I found on
> > "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> > that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of that.
> What an absolutely consistent, shallow asshole you are!
>
> "Mine's bigger than yours" is the highest level of discourse you possess.

LOL, HH has been saying that to me for years. Paybacks are a bitch.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> > On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> >>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> >>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> >>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> >>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> >>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> >>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> >>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> >>>>>>>> found on
> >>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> >>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> >>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> >>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> >>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> >>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> >>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> >>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> >>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
> >>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> >>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> >>>>> example.
> >>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
> >>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> >>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> >>>> are transportation.
> >>>
> >>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> >>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> >>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
> >>
> >> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> >> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
> >
> > And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> > doing things...
> >
> > ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> > them.
> The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.
>
> For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
> nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
> even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
> draw from.
>
> It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
> falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
> magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.
>
> But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
> swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
> expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
> muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.
>
> -hh
>
> PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
> “Meh” so far.

Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value in something but not enough to want to own it. I have seen enough aircraft (and boat) owners live to regret buying instead of renting. I once enjoyed golf too, but never bought a golf course. Quite a few of us enjoy a particular car, but lease it. With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I don't own. For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access to 5 flying club aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with almost no out-of-pocket expense. In fact, 2 hours in the logbook of that CAP thingy just today.

Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring. The Accord has consistenly ranked high on "best of" lists for decades. I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why. I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is something to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no muss or fuss. I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then I went back to Honda. It's just not me.

You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal values. Yours are yours and are mine.

On 2024-01-02 17:30, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:

> You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal
> values. Yours are yours and are mine.

And yet you do PRECISELY that all the time.

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:30:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> > > On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> > >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> > >>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> > >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> > >>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> > >>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> > >>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> > >>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> > >>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> > >>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> > >>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> > >>>>>>>> found on
> > >>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> > >>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> > >>>>>>> that.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> > >>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> > >>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > >>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> > >>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> > >>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> > >>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
> > >>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> > >>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> > >>>>> example.
> > >>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
> > >>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> > >>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> > >>>> are transportation.
> > >>>
> > >>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> > >>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> > >>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
> > >>
> > >> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> > >> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
> > >
> > > And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> > > doing things...
> > >
> > > ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> > > them.
> >
> > The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.
> >
> > For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
> > nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
> > even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
> > draw from.
> >
> > It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
> > falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
> > magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.
> >
> > But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
> > swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
> > expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
> > muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.
> >
> > PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
> > “Meh” so far.
>
> Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value in something but not
> enough to want to own it.

Yet that was what you initiated with your “Just get a newer Porsche with a real
OEM screen” and its follow-up of your January RMD “I could buy” claim.

> With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I don't own.

Which once again, as Alan noted, is precisely what you do all the time:
with often with the most tenuous of relevance, dangle a brag of bucks
so as to try to feel superior about yourself.

> For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access to 5 flying club
> aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with almost no out-of-pocket expense.

Nothing wrong about being frugal, but it becomes hypocritical when one then
goes on to criticize others when in their own way, they’re doing the same.

> Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring.

Merely the most recent of your many new car purchases…case in point:

> I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why.

Five and because you’re taking the initial years’ depreciation hits each time,
figure at $25K net capital each. Retaining frugality means you could have
had fewer & saved enough to have gotten the wife a Porsche.

> I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is something
> to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no muss or fuss.

Because Hondas are renowned for being the most comfortable of rides … /s

> I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then I went back
> to Honda. It's just not me.

Sounds more like you scared yourself with the Cobra, and have been
subsequently “playing it safe” for the past ~30 years.

> You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal values.
> Yours are yours and are mine.

I’m not: I’m simply holding a mirror up … and you’re not liking your own reflection.

-hh

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:30:57 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:30:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> > > >>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> > > >>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> > > >>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> > > >>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> > > >>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> > > >>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> > > >>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> > > >>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> > > >>>>>>>> found on
> > > >>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> > > >>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> > > >>>>>>> that.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> > > >>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> > > >>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > > >>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> > > >>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> > > >>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> > > >>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
> > > >>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> > > >>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> > > >>>>> example.
> > > >>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
> > > >>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> > > >>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> > > >>>> are transportation.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> > > >>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> > > >>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> > > >> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
> > > >
> > > > And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> > > > doing things...
> > > >
> > > > ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> > > > them.
> > >
> > > The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.
> > >
> > > For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
> > > nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
> > > even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
> > > draw from.
> > >
> > > It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
> > > falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
> > > magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.
> > >
> > > But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
> > > swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
> > > expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
> > > muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.
> > >
> > > PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
> > > “Meh” so far.
> >
> > Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value in something but not
> > enough to want to own it.
> Yet that was what you initiated with your “Just get a newer Porsche with a real
> OEM screen” and its follow-up of your January RMD “I could buy” claim.
> > With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I don't own..
> Which once again, as Alan noted, is precisely what you do all the time:
> with often with the most tenuous of relevance, dangle a brag of bucks
> so as to try to feel superior about yourself.
> > For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access to 5 flying club
> > aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with almost no out-of-pocket expense.
> Nothing wrong about being frugal, but it becomes hypocritical when one then
> goes on to criticize others when in their own way, they’re doing the same.
> > Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring.
> Merely the most recent of your many new car purchases…case in point:
> > I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why.
> Five and because you’re taking the initial years’ depreciation hits each time,
> figure at $25K net capital each. Retaining frugality means you could have
> had fewer & saved enough to have gotten the wife a Porsche.
> > I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is something
> > to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no muss or fuss.
> Because Hondas are renowned for being the most comfortable of rides … /s
> > I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then I went back
> > to Honda. It's just not me.
> Sounds more like you scared yourself with the Cobra, and have been
> subsequently “playing it safe” for the past ~30 years.
> > You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal values.
> > Yours are yours and are mine.
> I’m not: I’m simply holding a mirror up … and you’re not liking your own reflection.
>
> -hh

Uh, Hugh, the 4 or 5 Honda Accords starts way back in 1989. It was actually 5, now that I think about it. Two of those were not new. Three were changed out with well over 100,000 miles. The other two were close to 100,000. I have tried others too. A previoulsy owned Civic with about 100,000 was traded for a new Insight Hybrid. About three years later, in the midst of the auto production crisis, a dealer offered me close to the Insight's MSRP to upgrade to the Accord Hybrid at its MSRP. (A year later Honda discontinued the Insight.) I took the offer. That's my current drive, 41,000 at 2 years in, and very happy with the larger Accord

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:12:33 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:30:57 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:30:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> > > > >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> > > > >>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > >>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> > > > >>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> > > > >>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> > > > >>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> > > > >>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> > > > >>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> > > > >>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> > > > >>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> > > > >>>>>>>> found on
> > > > >>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> > > > >>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> > > > >>>>>>> that.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> > > > >>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> > > > >>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > > > >>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> > > > >>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> > > > >>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> > > > >>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
> > > > >>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> > > > >>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> > > > >>>>> example.
> > > > >>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
> > > > >>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> > > > >>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> > > > >>>> are transportation.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> > > > >>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> > > > >>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> > > > >> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite..
> > > > >
> > > > > And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> > > > > doing things...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> > > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.
> > > >
> > > > For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
> > > > nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
> > > > even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
> > > > draw from.
> > > >
> > > > It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
> > > > falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
> > > > magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.
> > > >
> > > > But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
> > > > swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
> > > > expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
> > > > muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.
> > > >
> > > > PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
> > > > “Meh” so far.
> > >
> > > Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value in something but not
> > > enough to want to own it.
> > Yet that was what you initiated with your “Just get a newer Porsche with a real
> > OEM screen” and its follow-up of your January RMD “I could buy” claim.
> > > With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I don't own.
> > Which once again, as Alan noted, is precisely what you do all the time:
> > with often with the most tenuous of relevance, dangle a brag of bucks
> > so as to try to feel superior about yourself.
> > > For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access to 5 flying club
> > > aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with almost no out-of-pocket expense.
> > Nothing wrong about being frugal, but it becomes hypocritical when one then
> > goes on to criticize others when in their own way, they’re doing the same.
> > > Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring.
> > Merely the most recent of your many new car purchases…case in point:
> > > I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why.
> > Five and because you’re taking the initial years’ depreciation hits each time,
> > figure at $25K net capital each. Retaining frugality means you could have
> > had fewer & saved enough to have gotten the wife a Porsche.
> > > I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is something
> > > to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no muss or fuss.
> > Because Hondas are renowned for being the most comfortable of rides … /s
> > > I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then I went back
> > > to Honda. It's just not me.
> > Sounds more like you scared yourself with the Cobra, and have been
> > subsequently “playing it safe” for the past ~30 years.
> > > You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal values.
> > > Yours are yours and are mine.
> > I’m not: I’m simply holding a mirror up … and you’re not liking your own reflection.
> >
> > -hh
> Uh, Hugh, the 4 or 5 Honda Accords starts way back in 1989.

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:12:33 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:30:57 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:30:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > > Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
> > > > > >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
> > > > > >>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > > >>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM AM/SW/FM+cassette deck
> > > > > >>>>>>> radio. But it’s still has to fit within the dashboard
> > > > > >>>>>>> constraint of being single DIN.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM screen or at least
> > > > > >>>>>>>> something bigger than this.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new air cooled models
> > > > > >>>>>>> anymore .. at any price.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a 6.8" screen Pioneer
> > > > > >>>>>>>> radio/CarPlay unit. Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
> > > > > >>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another Porsche get a mount
> > > > > >>>>>>>> for your phone. That would work as well as than your unit I
> > > > > >>>>>>>> found on
> > > > > >>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
> > > > > >>>>>>> that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
> > > > > >>>>>>> that.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with the ‘PCCM Plus’
> > > > > >>>>>>> version, which is for the newer 996 & 986 (first generation
> > > > > >>>>>>> water cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that 996’s and
> > > > > >>>>>>> 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re now cheap enough to be even
> > > > > >>>>>>> within _your_ budget.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment I could trade my
> > > > > >>>>>> 2022 Honda Accord for a new 911 and write a check for the
> > > > > >>>>>> difference. But not going to happen.
> > > > > >>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the most you could
> > > > > >>>>> rationalize stretching for would be just a twenty year old used
> > > > > >>>>> example.
> > > > > >>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
> > > > > >>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need for a Porsche
> > > > > >>>> either. Apparently your ego needs stroking by the car you drive. Cars
> > > > > >>>> are transportation.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of it, it's odd you
> > > > > >>> can't understand that someone else might want to make activity most of
> > > > > >>> us must do every day more enjoyable.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers anything over admitting
> > > > > >> being wrong, including revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get enjoyment from
> > > > > > doing things...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over others that he does
> > > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any lording.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded by how it’s a
> > > > > nothing burger in the real world, as he never did buy his own Cessna, or
> > > > > even doubled up on vacation budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to
> > > > > draw from.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this same trap of
> > > > > falsely believing that merely having a modest bag of bucks somehow
> > > > > magically equates to being a good human. It doesn’t.
> > > > >
> > > > > But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn something new and
> > > > > swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe even a test drive..not that I’d
> > > > > expect him to spring for a 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass
> > > > > muster to take a GT3 out for a test drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation of GG’s demise.
> > > > > “Meh” so far.
> > > >
> > > > Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value in something but not
> > > > enough to want to own it.
> > > Yet that was what you initiated with your “Just get a newer Porsche with a real
> > > OEM screen” and its follow-up of your January RMD “I could buy” claim.
> > > > With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I don't own.
> > > Which once again, as Alan noted, is precisely what you do all the time:
> > > with often with the most tenuous of relevance, dangle a brag of bucks
> > > so as to try to feel superior about yourself.
> > > > For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access to 5 flying club
> > > > aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with almost no out-of-pocket expense.
> > > Nothing wrong about being frugal, but it becomes hypocritical when one then
> > > goes on to criticize others when in their own way, they’re doing the same.
> > > > Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring.
> > > Merely the most recent of your many new car purchases…case in point:
> > > > I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why.
> > > Five and because you’re taking the initial years’ depreciation hits each time,
> > > figure at $25K net capital each. Retaining frugality means you could have
> > > had fewer & saved enough to have gotten the wife a Porsche.
> > > > I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is something
> > > > to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no muss or fuss.
> > > Because Hondas are renowned for being the most comfortable of rides … /s
> > > > I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then I went back
> > > > to Honda. It's just not me.
> > > Sounds more like you scared yourself with the Cobra, and have been
> > > subsequently “playing it safe” for the past ~30 years..
> > > > You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your personal values.
> > > > Yours are yours and are mine.
> > > I’m not: I’m simply holding a mirror up … and you’re not liking your own reflection.
> > >
> > > -hh
> > Uh, Hugh, the 4 or 5 Honda Accords starts way back in 1989.
> What you did 30 years ago just isn’t contemporary, and there’s been other Hondas too, such
> as your Insight hybrids. as of late, you’ve been flipping cars as often as your smartphones.
> > There are many cars that exceed the Accord in some area or another. Your Porche is
> > quicker, likely more fun to drive (for you), and makes a statement about the owner.
> > But try to load up 5 or 6 model aircraft to go fly at a local RC field. Or carry 4 people
> > and baggage on a trip. Does it get 45+ mpg? No, it will not do that.
> Fortunately, “the right tool for the job” applies: If I need to carry a half dozen R/Cs or
> passengers, I’ll simply choose a different vehicle in the family fleet. Ditto for other
> use cases; It’s what happens when one is deliberate & holistic on capability needs.
>
> -hh

On 2024-01-05 07:49, Thomas E. wrote:
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:12:33 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 10:30:57 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:30:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:03:50 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-01-01 15:34, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-5, Alan
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-01-01 14:36, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 6:41:31 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:44:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:22:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:27:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally getting around to an upgrade...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2024/pre-install.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You call that an upgrade? The screen is tiny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most anything is an upgrade from the OEM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM/SW/FM+cassette deck radio. But it’s still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to fit within the dashboard constraint of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being single DIN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just get a newer Porsche with a real OEM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen or at least something bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not for this one, as Porsche doesn’t sell new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> air cooled models anymore .. at any price.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, my 2015 CRV with its retrofit has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.8" screen Pioneer radio/CarPlay unit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smaller than the 2022 Accord, but still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very useable. If you can't afford another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Porsche get a mount for your phone. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would work as well as than your unit I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "https://www.thedrive.com/news/33144/porsche-finally-offers-an-upgrade-to-its-eyesore-early-infotainment-units"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that shows a $1550 price tag. A good phone mount is 5% of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That link is to this very product, along with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ‘PCCM Plus’ version, which is for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer 996 & 986 (first generation water
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cooled). The good news for you Tommy is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 996’s and 986’s aren’t as popular, so they’re
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now cheap enough to be even within _your_
>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After I receive my January RMD funds allotment
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could trade my 2022 Honda Accord for a new
>>>>>>>>>>>> 911 and write a check for the difference. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to happen.
>>>>>>>>>>> “Could”… but will never do so. That’s why the
>>>>>>>>>>> most you could rationalize stretching for would
>>>>>>>>>>> be just a twenty year old used example.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have better uses for the money.
>>>>>>>>>>> Meaning day-to-day living expenses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy 20 year old cars. I do not see the need
>>>>>>>>>> for a Porsche either. Apparently your ego needs
>>>>>>>>>> stroking by the car you drive. Cars are
>>>>>>>>>> transportation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For someone who claims he flies for the enjoyment of
>>>>>>>>> it, it's odd you can't understand that someone else
>>>>>>>>> might want to make activity most of us must do every
>>>>>>>>> day more enjoyable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, Tom understands perfectly well: he just prefers
>>>>>>>> anything over admitting being wrong, including
>>>>>>>> revealing himself as liar and a hypocrite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And a part of it I think is that he doesn't actually get
>>>>>>> enjoyment from doing things...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...as much as he gets enjoyment from lording it over
>>>>>>> others that he does them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem he has is that he’s not actually doing any
>>>>>> lording.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, his “could” claims on RMDs are countermanded
>>>>>> by how it’s a nothing burger in the real world, as he never
>>>>>> did buy his own Cessna, or even doubled up on vacation
>>>>>> budget, etc, despite multiple years of RMDs to draw from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is reminiscent of another braggart who went down this
>>>>>> same trap of falsely believing that merely having a modest
>>>>>> bag of bucks somehow magically equates to being a good
>>>>>> human. It doesn’t.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But perhaps Tommy will take the opportunity to learn
>>>>>> something new and swing by a dealer for a visit and maybe
>>>>>> even a test drive..not that I’d expect him to spring for a
>>>>>> 911; he’d probably not even be able to pass muster to take
>>>>>> a GT3 out for a test drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: piloting a new Usenet newsreader setup, in anticipation
>>>>>> of GG’s demise. “Meh” so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh, you totally fail to see how you can actually see value
>>>>> in something but not enough to want to own it.
>>>> Yet that was what you initiated with your “Just get a newer
>>>> Porsche with a real OEM screen” and its follow-up of your
>>>> January RMD “I could buy” claim.
>>>>> With over $3 mill in net worth I can afford a lot of things I
>>>>> don't own.
>>>> Which once again, as Alan noted, is precisely what you do all
>>>> the time: with often with the most tenuous of relevance, dangle
>>>> a brag of bucks so as to try to feel superior about yourself.
>>>>> For less than hanger, maintenance and insurance I have access
>>>>> to 5 flying club aircraft and can fly CAP aircraft too with
>>>>> almost no out-of-pocket expense.
>>>> Nothing wrong about being frugal, but it becomes hypocritical
>>>> when one then goes on to criticize others when in their own
>>>> way, they’re doing the same.
>>>>> Let's think about a Porsche. I have a 2022 Honda Accord
>>>>> Hybrid Touring.
>>>> Merely the most recent of your many new car purchases…case in
>>>> point:
>>>>> I have owned 4 or 5, and can see why.
>>>> Five and because you’re taking the initial years’ depreciation
>>>> hits each time, figure at $25K net capital each. Retaining
>>>> frugality means you could have had fewer & saved enough to have
>>>> gotten the wife a Porsche.
>>>>> I have no desire to even test drive a Porsche. To me a car is
>>>>> something to get you from A to B in comfort and do it with no
>>>>> muss or fuss.
>>>> Because Hondas are renowned for being the most comfortable of
>>>> rides … /s
>>>>> I once had an SVT Mustang Cobra. It was fun for a year, then
>>>>> I went back to Honda. It's just not me.
>>>> Sounds more like you scared yourself with the Cobra, and have
>>>> been subsequently “playing it safe” for the past ~30 years.
>>>>> You have no right to criticize others' choices based on your
>>>>> personal values. Yours are yours and are mine.
>>>> I’m not: I’m simply holding a mirror up … and you’re not liking
>>>> your own reflection.
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>> Uh, Hugh, the 4 or 5 Honda Accords starts way back in 1989.
>> What you did 30 years ago just isn’t contemporary, and there’s been
>> other Hondas too, such as your Insight hybrids. as of late, you’ve
>> been flipping cars as often as your smartphones.
>>> There are many cars that exceed the Accord in some area or
>>> another. Your Porche is quicker, likely more fun to drive (for
>>> you), and makes a statement about the owner. But try to load up 5
>>> or 6 model aircraft to go fly at a local RC field. Or carry 4
>>> people and baggage on a trip. Does it get 45+ mpg? No, it will
>>> not do that.
>> Fortunately, “the right tool for the job” applies: If I need to
>> carry a half dozen R/Cs or passengers, I’ll simply choose a
>> different vehicle in the family fleet. Ditto for other use cases;
>> It’s what happens when one is deliberate & holistic on capability
>> needs.
>>
>> -hh
>
> Insight Hybrids? I had one. It was obvious that it was not selling
> well and was likely to be discontinued. The clincher was the dealer's
> trade offer for the Accord Hybrid.
>
> Let's review the chain. 2015 traded a pre-owned 2010 Accord with
> about 100,000 miles for a new Civic. Good car that Civic, but not
> great. 2019 traded the Civic with about 60,000 miles for the Insight.
> Dec 30, 2021 I traded the Insight Touring Hybrid with about 50,000
> miles and valued at close to the 2019 MSRP for the Accord Touring
> Hybrid, now with 41,000 miles. We also have a 2015 CRV purchased new
> with about 90,000 miles, and no plans to make a change in either. The
> trade-in for the CRV as a 2002 Highlander with 140,000 miles. Since
> 2015 net worth has almost doubled, income less 401k contributions is
> up 50%, and cash flow since 2021 is no longer dependent on highly
> variable consulting income.
>
> Between us since 2015 we have purchased about 8-10 smartphones, 4 or
> 5 tablets, Android and Apple, versus 4 car purchases. Phones do not
> cost as much as cars. News at 11.
>
> We use the Accord as our trip car. It gets much better mileage and
> has a very large trunk. I could use the CRV for local hauls, but the
> wife likes driving it instead of the Accord.
>
> You do know that it is totally rational to be frugal in some areas
> and not-so-frugal in others?
>
> Please note that I did not criticize your car, just its tiny
> display.
>
> You might want to read this too:
>
> https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2023/12/31/honda-accord-2024-detroit-free-press-car-of-the-year/72034346007/
>
> "The 2023 Honda Accord makes excellence look so effortless, it’s
> tempting to take the midsize sedan for granted. Don’t. The Accord
> hybrid, in particular, provides a combination of comfort, safety and
> efficiency that makes it a near-perfect daily driver. It is one of
> the many reasons I chose the Accord as the Detroit Free Press Car of
> the Year."
>
> That's my car, a year newer. But nothing will appease your compulsion
> to find fault.