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* Web-searchable general-use permanent archives for this Usenet newsgroupAndy Burnelli
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Subject: Web-searchable general-use permanent archives for this Usenet newsgroup
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:52 UTC

This is a thread to try to find & list web-searchable general-use permanent
archives for this Usenet newsgroup, and for common text newsgoups, such as
<alt.comp.freeware>
<alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<alt.comp.os.windows-10>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11>
<alt.comp.os.windows-8>
<alt.comp.software.firefox>
<alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<alt.free.newsservers>
<alt.free.nntp>
<alt.home.repair>
<alt.internet.wireless>
<alt.msdos.batch>
<alt.os.linux>
<alt.usage.english>
<alt.windows7.general>
<comp.mobile.android>
<comp.mobile.ipad>
<comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<comp.sys.mac.apps>
<comp.sys.mac.system>
<comp.text.pdf>
<microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<news.software.readers>
<rec.autos.tech>
<rec.photo.digital>
<sci.electronics.repair>
<sci.geo.satellite-nav>
etc.
all of which I'm aware Andy Burns, Grant Taylor, and I have been trying
to get Google to archive, usually to no avail for Windows newsgroups.

David Cavion <david narkive com> has this one-man operation but he
seems to have removed the search feature since I last went there.
<http://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.microsoft.windows.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-11.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-8.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.software.firefox.narkive.com>
<https://alt.comp.software.thunderbird.narkive.com>
<https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com>
<https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com>
<https://alt.home.repair.narkive.com>
<https://alt.internet.wireless.narkive.com>
<https://alt.msdos.batch.narkive.com>
<https://alt.os.linux.narkive.com>
<https://alt.usage.english.narkive.com>
<https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com>
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
<https://comp.mobile.ipad.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.advocacy.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.apps.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.system.narkive.com>
<https://comp.text.pdf.narkive.com>
<https://microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.narkive.com>
<https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com>
<https://news.software.nntp.narkive.com>
<https://news.software.readers.narkive.com>
<https://rec.autos.tech.narkive.com>
<https://rec.photo.digital.narkive.com>
<https://sci.electronics.design.narkive.com>
<https://sci.electronics.equipment.narkive.com>
<https://sci.electronics.misc.narkive.com>
<https://sci.electronics.repair.narkive.com>
<https://sci.geo.satellite-nav.narkive.com>
etc.

Long ago I created a combination of easy-to-remember tinyurls so that
we could easily type web searchable archives for the listed newsgroups.
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-microsoft-windows>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-7>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-8>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-firefox>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-thunderbird>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-free-newsservers>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-internet-wireless>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-msdos-batch>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-usage-english>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-windows7-general>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-advocacy>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-text-pdf>
<https://tinyurl.com/microsoft-public-windowsxp-gen> (30-character limit)
I also had created an easier URL:<https://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general>
<alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
<https://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>
<https://tinyurl.com/news-software-readers>
<https://tinyurl.com/rec-autos-tech>
<https://tinyurl.com/rec-photo-digital>
<https://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair>
<https://tinyurl.com/sci-geo-satellite-nav>
etc.

Those tinyurls link to the now deprecated (but still functional) complex
dejagoogle syntax, which was too hard for me (and most) to easily remember.
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.freeware>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.free.newsservers>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.internet.wireless>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.msdos.batch>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.os.linux>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.usage.english>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.android>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.ipad>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.apps>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.system>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.text.pdf>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/news.software.readers>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.autos.tech>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.photo.digital>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.electronics.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
<https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=48> for Windows-7
<https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=50> for Windows-8
<https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=52> for Windows 10
<alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
etc.

Which, after the great reshuffling, currently boil down to the following
much easier to remember and logically derived dejagoogle search links:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.firefox>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.internet.wireless>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.msdos.batch>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.apps>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.text.pdf>
<https://groups.google.com/g/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.software.readers>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.tech>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.photo.digital>
<https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair>
<https://groups.google.com/g/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
<alt.comp.os.windows-10> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
<alt.comp.os.windows-11> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
<alt.comp.os.windows-8> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
<alt.windows7.general> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
etc.

As always, since every thread is intended to increase our tribal knowledge,
if you know of other general purpose web-based no-registration Usenet
search engines, please add value when and how you can help everyone out.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to locate generic Usenet search archival URLs

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From: snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.nntp
Subject: Re: Web-searchable general-use permanent archives for this Usenet newsgroup
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 by: Sn!pe - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:59 UTC

Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.nntp

"alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

<https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

Re: Web-searchable general-use permanent archives for this Usenet newsgroup

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:13 UTC

Sn!pe wrote:

> "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"

AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
<https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)

Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.

I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).

Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?

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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,alt.free.nntp,alt.free.newsservers
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 by: Sn!pe - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:35 UTC

Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
>
> > "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"
>
> AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)
>
> Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
> and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.
>
> I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
> I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).
>
> Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?
>
If it's in the control message archive and newsgroup list archived
at ftp.isc.com it would have been picked up automatically by
Eternal-September. If it ain't there, it ain't kosher.
I hope I have those details right; I'm open to correction if not.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

<https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:01 UTC

On Mar 30, 2023 at 3:35:45 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>
>>> "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"
>>
>> AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
>> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)
>>
>> Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
>> and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.
>>
>> I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
>> I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).
>>
>> Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?
>>
>
> If it's in the control message archive and newsgroup list archived
> at ftp.isc.com it would have been picked up automatically by
> Eternal-September. If it ain't there, it ain't kosher.
>
> I hope I have those details right; I'm open to correction if not.

https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.free.nntp.gz

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 by: Sn!pe - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:20 UTC

Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2023 at 3:35:45 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
>
> > Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Sn!pe wrote:
> >>
> >>> "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"
> >>
> >> AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
> >> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
> >> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)
> >>
> >> Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
> >> and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.
> >>
> >> I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
> >> I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).
> >>
> >> Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?
> >>
> >
> > If it's in the control message archive and newsgroup list archived
> > at ftp.isc.com it would have been picked up automatically by
> > Eternal-September. If it ain't there, it ain't kosher.
> >
> > I hope I have those details right; I'm open to correction if not.
> >
>
> <https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.free.nntp.gz>
>

"This news group duplicates alt.free.newsservers,
This group was not discussed in alt.config
This news group also has no charter and no numeric Justification."

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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:19 UTC

On Mar 30, 2023 at 4:20:38 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 30, 2023 at 3:35:45 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
>>>> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)
>>>>
>>>> Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
>>>> and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.
>>>>
>>>> I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
>>>> I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it's in the control message archive and newsgroup list archived
>>> at ftp.isc.com it would have been picked up automatically by
>>> Eternal-September. If it ain't there, it ain't kosher.
>>>
>>> I hope I have those details right; I'm open to correction if not.
>>>
>>
>> <https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.free.nntp.gz>
>>
>
> "This news group duplicates alt.free.newsservers,
> This group was not discussed in alt.config
> This news group also has no charter and no numeric Justification."

No different than the vast majority of alt.*. Shrug.

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 by: Sn!pe - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:11 UTC

Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2023 at 4:20:38 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
> > Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 30, 2023 at 3:35:45 PM CDT, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
> >>> Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> >>>> Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "alt.free.nntp does not exist on this server"
> >>>>
> >>>> AFAICT, alt.free.nntp is listed in dejagoogle & in the narkive:
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
> >>>> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com/> (first post 20 years ago)
> >>>>
> >>>> Aioe, Blueworld, Dizum, Neodome, Mixmin, Netfront, Paganini, Solani,
> >>>> and XSUsenet all show that they served alt.free.nntp to their users.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm no expert though - I just use free newsservers that I know about.
> >>>> I use them mainly for privacy (paying usually requires credit cards).
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there anyone who knows more about why it's not in snipe's feed?
> >>>
> >>> If it's in the control message archive and newsgroup list archived
> >>> at ftp.isc.com it would have been picked up automatically by
> >>> Eternal-September. If it ain't there, it ain't kosher.
> >>>
> >>> I hope I have those details right; I'm open to correction if not.
> >>
> >> <https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.free.nntp.gz>
> >
> > "This news group duplicates alt.free.newsservers,
> > This group was not discussed in alt.config
> > This news group also has no charter and no numeric Justification."
>
> No different than the vast majority of alt.*. Shrug.

Ray keeps a clean list.
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 by: Tony - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 22:03 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> This is a thread to try to find & list web-searchable general-use
> permanent archives for this Usenet newsgroup, and for common text
> newsgoups, such as
> <alt.comp.freeware>
> <alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
> <alt.comp.os.windows-10>
> <alt.comp.os.windows-11>
> <alt.comp.os.windows-8>
> <alt.comp.software.firefox>
> <alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
> <alt.free.newsservers>
> <alt.free.nntp>
> <alt.home.repair>
> <alt.internet.wireless>
> <alt.msdos.batch>
> <alt.os.linux>
> <alt.usage.english>
> <alt.windows7.general>
> <comp.mobile.android>
> <comp.mobile.ipad>
> <comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
> <comp.sys.mac.apps>
> <comp.sys.mac.system>
> <comp.text.pdf>
> <microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
> <misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
> <news.software.readers>
> <rec.autos.tech>
> <rec.photo.digital>
> <sci.electronics.repair>
> <sci.geo.satellite-nav>
> etc.
> all of which I'm aware Andy Burns, Grant Taylor, and I have been trying
> to get Google to archive, usually to no avail for Windows newsgroups.
>
> David Cavion <david narkive com> has this one-man operation but he
> seems to have removed the search feature since I last went there.
> <http://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.microsoft.windows.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.os.windows-11.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.os.windows-8.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.software.firefox.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.comp.software.thunderbird.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.free.nntp.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.home.repair.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.internet.wireless.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.msdos.batch.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.os.linux.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.usage.english.narkive.com>
> <https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.mobile.ipad.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.sys.mac.advocacy.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.sys.mac.apps.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.sys.mac.system.narkive.com>
> <https://comp.text.pdf.narkive.com>
> <https://microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.narkive.com>
> <https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com>
> <https://news.software.nntp.narkive.com>
> <https://news.software.readers.narkive.com>
> <https://rec.autos.tech.narkive.com>
> <https://rec.photo.digital.narkive.com>
> <https://sci.electronics.design.narkive.com>
> <https://sci.electronics.equipment.narkive.com>
> <https://sci.electronics.misc.narkive.com>
> <https://sci.electronics.repair.narkive.com>
> <https://sci.geo.satellite-nav.narkive.com>
> etc.
>
> Long ago I created a combination of easy-to-remember tinyurls so that
> we could easily type web searchable archives for the listed newsgroups.
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-microsoft-windows>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-7>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-8>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-firefox>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-software-thunderbird>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-free-newsservers>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-internet-wireless>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-msdos-batch>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-usage-english>
> <https://tinyurl.com/alt-windows7-general>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-advocacy>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system>
> <https://tinyurl.com/comp-text-pdf>
> <https://tinyurl.com/microsoft-public-windowsxp-gen> (30-character limit)
> I also had created an easier URL:<https://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general>
> <alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
> <https://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>
> <https://tinyurl.com/news-software-readers>
> <https://tinyurl.com/rec-autos-tech>
> <https://tinyurl.com/rec-photo-digital>
> <https://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair>
> <https://tinyurl.com/sci-geo-satellite-nav>
> etc.
>
> Those tinyurls link to the now deprecated (but still functional) complex
> dejagoogle syntax, which was too hard for me (and most) to easily remember.
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.freeware>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.firefox>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.free.newsservers>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.internet.wireless>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.msdos.batch>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.os.linux>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.usage.english>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.android>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.ipad>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.apps>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.sys.mac.system>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.text.pdf>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/news.software.readers>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.autos.tech>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.photo.digital>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.electronics.repair>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
> <https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=48> for Windows-7
> <https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=50> for Windows-8
> <https://www.pcbanter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=52> for Windows 10
> <alt.comp.os.windows-11> At the time this didn't exist for me to set up
> etc.
>
> Which, after the great reshuffling, currently boil down to the following
> much easier to remember and logically derived dejagoogle search links:
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.firefox>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.thunderbird>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.internet.wireless>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.msdos.batch>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.apps>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.text.pdf>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/news.software.readers>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.tech>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.photo.digital>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/sci.geo.satellite-nav>
> <alt.comp.os.windows-10> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
> <alt.comp.os.windows-11> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
> <alt.comp.os.windows-8> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
> <alt.windows7.general> not dejagoogle archived (use pcbanter, narkive)
> etc.
>
> As always, since every thread is intended to increase our tribal
> knowledge, if you know of other general purpose web-based
> no-registration Usenet
> search engines, please add value when and how you can help everyone out.


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