I dug out an old workstation with Centos 8 stream. As it goes EOL soon,
I tried dnf update. But it complains about okular and poppler that
depencies cannot be provided. I remove okular, no worries. Then try to
remove popper which is a PDF rendering library. It lists a shit-ton of
things that will be removed as well. It is more or less going to remove
KDE Plasma if I say y.

It shines out like a stream of gold when all around is dark?

Mich <mich@none.edu> wrote:
> I dug out an old workstation with Centos 8 stream. (...snip)
> It is more or less going to remove KDE Plasma if I say y.

Not a big surprise to me :(

When I had a RHEL Workstation, when I upgraded from 7 to 8
(or 8-9?), KDE was broken during that upgrade and Fluxbox
started to have issues too.

Seems RHEL wants you to use GNOME or nothing. On Fluxbox
some applications and almost all proprietary applications I
had to use at work would fail unless you are running GNOME 3.
Same with KDE, but pieces of KDE would also fail.

At the time, I did a search and seems Red Hat is doing all
it can to prevent the use of KDE on RHEL. Maybe that
philosophy moved to CentOS.

Sad to say, may be time to move to another distro.

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On 22.04.2024 um 12:16 Uhr John McCue wrote:

> At the time, I did a search and seems Red Hat is doing all
> it can to prevent the use of KDE on RHEL. Maybe that
> philosophy moved to CentOS.

RHEL is based on Fedora.

Does that apply to Fedora too?
They even offer KDE live images to directly boot and install it with
KDE.

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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> On 22.04.2024 um 12:16 Uhr John McCue wrote:
>
>> At the time, I did a search and seems Red Hat is doing all
>> it can to prevent the use of KDE on RHEL. Maybe that
>> philosophy moved to CentOS.
>
> RHEL is based on Fedora.
>
> Does that apply to Fedora too?
> They even offer KDE live images to directly boot and install it with
> KDE.

I doubt it since Fedora is quasi independent, but where I
worked, we were told rather soon people on RHEL (me) will
need to move off to Fedora. That was due to a video
application we are forced to use.

I left before that was implemented. If I had stayed, I
would have went with the KDE spin. But Wayland default
in Fedora would be a complication. I know many of those
proprietary would not work under Wayland.

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John McCue wrote:
> Mich <mich@none.edu> wrote:
>> I dug out an old workstation with Centos 8 stream. (...snip)
>> It is more or less going to remove KDE Plasma if I say y.
>
> Not a big surprise to me :(
>
> When I had a RHEL Workstation, when I upgraded from 7 to 8
> (or 8-9?), KDE was broken during that upgrade and Fluxbox
> started to have issues too.
>
> Seems RHEL wants you to use GNOME or nothing. On Fluxbox
> some applications and almost all proprietary applications I
> had to use at work would fail unless you are running GNOME 3.
> Same with KDE, but pieces of KDE would also fail.
>
> At the time, I did a search and seems Red Hat is doing all
> it can to prevent the use of KDE on RHEL. Maybe that
> philosophy moved to CentOS.
>
> Sad to say, may be time to move to another distro.
>

I hardly use it, just need 1 installation for software testing.
Anyway, I figured out remove poppler, so update can proceed. Then to get
Plasma back, install xorg-x11-apps then plasma-desktop. Cannot do the
group install KDE Plasma Workspaces, because it wants insight-client.
And that is part of Ass Hat Enterprise Linux. Eh?
I installed XFCE as well, as Gnome shits me.