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SubjectAuthor
* Sending emailstephen.hull
+* Re: Sending emailHarriet Bazley
|`* Re: Sending emailDavid Higton
| `- Re: Sending emailHarriet Bazley
`* Re: Sending emailChris Hughes
 `- Re: Sending emailstephen.hull

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Sending email

<ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>

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From: stephen.hull@btinternet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Sending email
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:34:09 +0100
Lines: 45
Message-ID: <ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>
Reply-To: stephen.hull@btinternet.com
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X-Orig-Path: btinternet.com%Steve
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 by: stephen.hull@btinternet.com - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 17:34 UTC

I have not sent email on RISC OS using Virtual Acorn for a while but
when I tried to send email today I find for some reason I cannot send at
all as my email gets stuck in the queue.
Strangley though I can receive and send NEWS but not able to send email.

My setup is as follows:

User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)
(MsgServe/8.05) (RISC-OS/4.39)

Hermes 5.52 (30 Apr 2020)

Netfetch 5.53 (29th Sept, 2020)

Acorn SSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020)

Error message shown today is:
[26 Jul 2022 17:42:19] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:42:28] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:01] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:02] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:12] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:43:39] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
[26 Jul 2022 17:45:38] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com

The last time my email sending worked was in June 2022

Has something changed recently in the email client which is stopping me from
sending mail?
I am with Btinternet.com and checked all my setting which all seem to be
correct as nothing has been altered.

Steve.

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Re: Sending email

<a65c3a0e5a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>

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From: harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk (Harriet Bazley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Re: Sending email
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:53:44 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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Message-ID: <a65c3a0e5a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
References: <ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>
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logging-data="2316150"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18gMLvUh2+suMA/MFIJsDKl06DpIXZ58JI="
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X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
 by: Harriet Bazley - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:53 UTC

On 26 Jul 2022 as I do recall,
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

>
> I have not sent email on RISC OS using Virtual Acorn for a while but
> when I tried to send email today I find for some reason I cannot send at
> all as my email gets stuck in the queue.
> Strangley though I can receive and send NEWS but not able to send email.

News goes to a different server on a different port (yours appears to be
going to news.individual.net as opposed to BT). e.g. My system is
sending news on port 119 and e-mail on port 110.
>
> Error message shown today is:
> [26 Jul 2022 17:42:19] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:42:28] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:01] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:02] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:12] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:39] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:38] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com

Maybe BTInternet's e-mail server is simply down?

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

A closed mouth gathers no foot.

Re: Sending email

<8b4f3f0e5a.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>

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From: dave@davehigton.me.uk (David Higton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Re: Sending email
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 22:47:47 +0100
Organization: Home
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Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7770d028702cc61ea8c6fdbddacbec34";
logging-data="2341394"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5UK0QRVl4jl3N01Cg8lyZxBhE95Q0ZVU="
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 by: David Higton - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:47 UTC

In message <a65c3a0e5a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> News goes to a different server on a different port (yours appears to be
> going to news.individual.net as opposed to BT). e.g. My system is
> sending news on port 119 and e-mail on port 110.

I'm being a bit picky here; you might collect email on port 110, but
you couldn't send it on that port.

It doesn't alter the principle of what you said, of course.

David

Re: Sending email

<0b67420e5a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>

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From: harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk (Harriet Bazley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Re: Sending email
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:21:34 +0100
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X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
 by: Harriet Bazley - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 22:21 UTC

On 26 Jul 2022 as I do recall,
David Higton wrote:

> In message <a65c3a0e5a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > News goes to a different server on a different port (yours appears to be
> > going to news.individual.net as opposed to BT). e.g. My system is
> > sending news on port 119 and e-mail on port 110.
>
> I'm being a bit picky here; you might collect email on port 110, but
> you couldn't send it on that port.
>
True - I was looking at the AntiSpam choices and not the MSC ones!
(Where the port appears to be 465.)

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

ObChocolate: Nice!

Re: Sending email

<35089e0e5a.chris@mytardis>

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From: news13@noonehere.co.uk (Chris Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Re: Sending email
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:02:24 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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X-Editor: EmailEdit 2.04
 by: Chris Hughes - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 15:02 UTC

In message <ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> I have not sent email on RISC OS using Virtual Acorn for a while but
> when I tried to send email today I find for some reason I cannot send at
> all as my email gets stuck in the queue.
> Strangley though I can receive and send NEWS but not able to send email.

> My setup is as follows:

> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)
> (MsgServe/8.05) (RISC-OS/4.39)

> Hermes 5.52 (30 Apr 2020)

> Netfetch 5.53 (29th Sept, 2020)

> Acorn SSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020)

> Error message shown today is:
> [26 Jul 2022 17:42:19] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:42:28] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:01] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:02] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:12] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:29] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:43:39] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connecting to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:28] Connected to mail.btinternet.com
> [26 Jul 2022 17:45:38] Lost connection to mail.btinternet.com

> The last time my email sending worked was in June 2022

> Has something changed recently in the email client which is stopping me from
> sending mail?
> I am with Btinternet.com and checked all my setting which all seem to be
> correct as nothing has been altered.

Have you maked to get it working?

If not turn on detailed logging within Hermes/Netfetch for this account,
then have a look at the log, it will show the communications between you
and BT Internet as it tries to connect and should highlight where the
issue is.

--
Chris Hughes

Re: Sending email

<847da70e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>

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From: stephen.hull@btinternet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject: Re: Sending email
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 17:45:43 +0100
Lines: 36
Message-ID: <847da70e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>
References: <ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com> <35089e0e5a.chris@mytardis>
Reply-To: stephen.hull@btinternet.com
X-Trace: individual.net Oo+KKmyMlSdQJ8eSk8K1vgLRGLKTNjV2/2VWVnIM2xN1IH68zK
X-Orig-Path: btinternet.com%Steve
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 by: stephen.hull@btinternet.com - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:45 UTC

In message <35089e0e5a.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <ef16280e5a.Steve@btinternet.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

>> I have not sent email on RISC OS using Virtual Acorn for a while but
>> when I tried to send email today I find for some reason I cannot send at
>> all as my email gets stuck in the queue.
>> Strangley though I can receive and send NEWS but not able to send email.

>
>Have you maked to get it working?
>
>If not turn on detailed logging within Hermes/Netfetch for this account,
>then have a look at the log, it will show the communications between you
>and BT Internet as it tries to connect and should highlight where the
>issue is.
>
I managed to get it working by changing the port to 995, I think it was
110 before but no idea why it decided to suddenly not send.

Authenticated login (APOP) ticked and
SSL (usually port 995)

Thank you all for the help, twas Harriet that gave me the thought of
changing ports.

Regards,

Steve

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