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* Message paneEd Cryer
+* Message paneBig Al
|`* Message paneEd Cryer
| `* Message paneJörg_Lorenz
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|  |`* Message paneJeff Layman
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|  |  `* Message paneBig Al
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|  `* Message paneEd Cryer
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| `* Message paneBob Henson
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From: ed@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
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 by: Ed Cryer - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:39 UTC

Thunderbird 115.3.2

How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
message threads.

Ed

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 by: Big Al - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 02:54 UTC

On 10/15/23 04:39 PM, this is what Ed Cryer wrote:
> Thunderbird 115.3.2
>
> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the message threads.
>
> Ed
I know of no barrier between the message header and the threads pane.

If I open a newsgroup or trash on an email account that has quite a few messages, I can scroll the message header up
shrinking the treads pane to about an inch may 1.5 inches. The treads run right up to the header, there is nothing
between the last shown thread and the header.
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:18 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
> what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?

I don't know, the minimum size of the message list pane doesn't feel too
large to me.

> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
> message threads.

Have you tried Compact Headers addon?

It gives you a "twisty" to expand/contract the message pane header and
options on which fields to include, or to compress it to a single row.

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From: ed@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
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Subject: Re: Message pane
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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:47 UTC

Big Al wrote:
> On 10/15/23 04:39 PM, this is what Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Thunderbird 115.3.2
>>
>> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
>> what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
>> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
>> message threads.
>>
>> Ed
> I know of no barrier between the message header and the threads pane.
>
> If I open a newsgroup or trash on an email account that has quite a few
> messages, I can scroll the message header up shrinking the treads pane
> to about an inch may 1.5 inches.   The treads run right up to the
> header, there is nothing between the last shown thread and the header.
Pardon by use of "barrier", Al. It was rather ill-chosen.
What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
Forward, Archive ......." in rectangular boxes along its upper edge.
Ed

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:59 UTC

On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,

Header Pane.

If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
delete the buttons:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search

HTH, Jörg

--
Manus manum lavat

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 08:12 UTC

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>
> Header Pane.

to be precise, "Message Header Pane" is what thunderbird devs call it.

<https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/07/getting-started-with-the-main-window-of-thunderbird-115-supernova/>

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Subject: Re: Message pane
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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:33 UTC

Andy Burns wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>
>> Header Pane.
>
> to be precise, "Message Header Pane" is what thunderbird devs call it.
>
> <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/07/getting-started-with-the-main-window-of-thunderbird-115-supernova/>
>
It's taller in height than the actual message.
Ed

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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:37 UTC

Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>
> Header Pane.
>
> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
> delete the buttons:
>
> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>
> HTH, Jörg
>
Thanks, Jörg.
The website says;
Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
Ed

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 by: Serdu - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:43 UTC

On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>
>> Header Pane.
>>
>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>> delete the buttons:
>>
>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>
>> HTH, Jörg
>>
>
> Thanks, Jörg.
>
> The website says;
> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>
> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>
> Ed

Version 5.1 works.

Download from here:
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/

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 by: Serdu - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:48 UTC

On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>>
>>> Header Pane.
>>>
>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>> delete the buttons:
>>>
>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>
>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>
>> The website says;
>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>
>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>
>> Ed
>
> Version 5.1 works.
>
> Download from here:
> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>
>

Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:10 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
> The website says;
> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>
> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?

I do ... it says

"Compact Headers version 5.1 supports Thunderbird 115."

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 by: VanguardLH - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:11 UTC

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
>> what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
>
> I don't know, the minimum size of the message list pane doesn't feel too
> large to me.
>
>> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
>> message threads.
>
> Have you tried Compact Headers addon?
>
> It gives you a "twisty" to expand/contract the message pane header and
> options on which fields to include, or to compress it to a single row.

According to:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/

it says:

Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0

Does it still work with Tbird 115? If there is an install issue,
perhaps you could edit to enlarge the version range specified in the
install.rdf file inside the .xpi install archive file to include 115.

https://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility
(Yeah, it's old, but perhaps still applies. Mozillazine stopped
updating their articles years ago.)

I just downloaded the .xpi file for this add-on, and extracted all files
from the .xpi archive file. I didn't see an install.rdf file. Instead
I found:

"strict_min_version": "102.0a1",

"strict_max_version": "106.0"

in the manifest.json file. If the add-on won't install, perhaps
changing the strict_max_version value would work.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:11 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> to be precise, "Message Header Pane" is what thunderbird devs call it.
>> <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/07/getting-started-with-the-main-window-of-thunderbird-115-supernova/>
>
> It's taller in height than the actual message.

screenshot?

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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:11 UTC

Serdu wrote:
> On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and
>>>>> message
>>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>>>
>>>> Header Pane.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>>> delete the buttons:
>>>>
>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>>
>>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>>
>>> The website says;
>>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>>
>>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> Version 5.1 works.
>>
>> Download from here:
>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>
>>
>
> Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"
That Other Version contains this statement;
Version 5.1 Released July 18, 2023 8.3 KiB Works with Thunderbird 111.0
- 117.*
Ye Gods! Forward-compatibility beyond the grasp of science!
Ed

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 by: Jeff Layman - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:55 UTC

On 16/10/2023 09:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>
>> Header Pane.
>
> to be precise, "Message Header Pane" is what thunderbird devs call it.
>
> <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/07/getting-started-with-the-main-window-of-thunderbird-115-supernova/>

I hadn't seen that page before, so it was interesting to compare the
'Classic View Layout with “Table” View', to what I currently use with my
TB102.

1. Spaces toolbar. Not used by me in 102, so hidden.
2. Unified toolbar. As I don't use the "Spaces toolbar", what use would
this be? I had a look through my current menu headings, but couldn't see
a "Ctrl-K". Is that "Search" some sort of universal sort through
messages, calendar, settings, etc? I tried "Ctrl-K", and a new page with
a search box appeared, but it didn't seem to do anything (perhaps
because I have the quick filter bar hidden?). Can the search box be
hidden or customised away?
3. Tab bar. I use this in 102.
4. Message List Header. Not present in 102; I can't see that I would
have any use for it.
5. Folder Pane. I use this in 102.
6. Quick Filter Bar. Not used by me in 102, so hidden.
7. Message List Pane. I use this in 102.
8. Message Header Pane. I use this in 102.
9. Message Pane. I use this in 102.
10. Today Pane. Not used by me in 102, so hidden (I have a separate tab
for the calendar.)
11. Status Bar. I use this in 102.

Looking through that list, I can't see any non-security imperative for
updating to 115. In fact, from other points (like losing vertical thread
markers, and possible loss of add-ons) it would be worse from a usage
point of view. I'll leave it for a month, then look at the situation again.

--

Jeff

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 13:27 UTC

Jeff Layman wrote:

> 1.  Spaces toolbar. Not used by me in 102, so hidden.

I hide it, I also use css to hide the button for it in the main toolbar
(if I want it, there's the icon in the status bar). Muscle memory for
me says the first few icons in the toolbar are "get", "write" and
"reply" ... quite rude of the spaces toolbar icon to insert itself at #1
in the list and not be customisable like normal icons

> 2.  Unified toolbar. As I don't use the "Spaces toolbar", what use would
> this be? I had a look through my current menu headings, but couldn't see
> a "Ctrl-K". Is that "Search" some sort of universal sort through
> messages, calendar, settings, etc? I tried "Ctrl-K", and a new page with
> a search box appeared, but it didn't seem to do anything (perhaps
> because I have the quick filter bar hidden?). Can the search box be
> hidden or customised away?

I don't see a search bar, I have a feeling this is dependant on cards view.

> 3.  Tab bar. I use this in 102.

Mine hides when only one tab it open, which is most of the time here

> 4.  Message List Header. Not present in 102; I can't see that I would
> have any use for it.

Nor me, but hiding it also hides an options icon, which is apparently
the only way to switch into "cards" view, which I don't use, but it's
pretty bad GUI design to have options which depend on other options

> 5.  Folder Pane. I use this in 102.

yep

> 6.  Quick Filter Bar. Not used by me in 102, so hidden.#

I always have it enabled, use the "unread" button to filter between all
an unread, sometimes use the starred button, or search to/from/subject

> 7.  Message List Pane. I use this in 102.
> 8.  Message Header Pane. I use this in 102.
> 9.  Message Pane. I use this in 102.

yes, with compact headers add-on (previously used message header toolbar
customise add-on, but no longer required for me)

> 10. Today Pane. Not used by me in 102, so hidden (I have a separate tab
> for the calendar.)

nor me, I don't use calendar enough to "waste" space on that pane, use
calendar in a tab when I want it.

> 11. Status Bar. I use this in 102.

yes

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 by: Big Al - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:10 UTC

On 10/16/23 09:27 AM, this is what Andy Burns wrote:
> I don't see a search bar, I have a feeling this is dependant on cards view.
It shows in things like compose or contact and in Cardbook.
'Customize toolbar' allows you to drag it off in 115. I don't have 102 anymore to test.
I've accepted 115 with my css to fix the things that should be (IMO).
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:17 UTC

Big Al wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> I don't see a search bar
>
> 'Customize toolbar' allows you to drag it off in 115.

If it had been "dragged off" then I'd expect that Customise... would
gave a search icon available to be dragged back, but it doesn't here.

> I've accepted 115 with my css to fix the things that should be (IMO).

I'm happy enough with v115 together with a couple of about:config and
userchrome changes.

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 by: Bob Henson - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:19 UTC

VanguardLH wrote:

> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
>>> what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
>>
>> I don't know, the minimum size of the message list pane doesn't feel too
>> large to me.
>>
>>> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
>>> message threads.
>>
>> Have you tried Compact Headers addon?
>>
>> It gives you a "twisty" to expand/contract the message pane header and
>> options on which fields to include, or to compress it to a single row.
>
> According to:
>
> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>
> it says:
>
> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>
> Does it still work with Tbird 115?

Compact Headers 5.1 works fine with Thunderbird 115.3.2.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Some days, you're the dog; some days you're the lamppost.

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 by: Serdu - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:25 UTC

On 16-Oct-2023 08:11, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Serdu wrote:
>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>>>>
>>>>> Header Pane.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>>>> delete the buttons:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>>>
>>>> The website says;
>>>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Version 5.1 works.
>>>
>>> Download from here:
>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"
>
> That Other Version contains this statement;
> Version 5.1 Released July 18, 2023 8.3 KiB Works with Thunderbird 111.0
> - 117.*
>
> Ye Gods! Forward-compatibility beyond the grasp of science!
>
> Ed
>

Super crystal ball sees the future. :-)

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From: hugybear@gmx.net (Jörg Lorenz)
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Subject: Re: Message pane
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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:34 UTC

Am 16.10.23 um 13:37 schrieb Ed Cryer:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>
>> Header Pane.
>>
>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>> delete the buttons:
>>
>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>
>> HTH, Jörg
>>
>
> Thanks, Jörg.
>
> The website says;
> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0

Compact Headers version 5.1 supports Thunderbird 115.
When visiting this page in a web browser it may show an older version.
If so, try installing Compact Headers from within Thunderbird, or check
Other Versions.
The add-on will be automatically upgraded when upgrading Thunderbird
from 102 to 115.
Some features had to be changed (removed) due to changes in Thunderbird 115.

> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?

Yes!

> Ed

Jörg

--
Alea iacta est

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 by: VanguardLH - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:54 UTC

Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do I increase the size of the message pane in Classic view beyond
>>>> what is allowed by the double-headed arrows?
>>>
>>> I don't know, the minimum size of the message list pane doesn't feel too
>>> large to me.
>>>
>>>> I would gladly reduce the size of the barrier between that and the
>>>> message threads.
>>>
>>> Have you tried Compact Headers addon?
>>>
>>> It gives you a "twisty" to expand/contract the message pane header and
>>> options on which fields to include, or to compress it to a single row.
>>
>> According to:
>>
>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>
>> it says:
>>
>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>
>> Does it still work with Tbird 115?
>
> Compact Headers 5.1 works fine with Thunderbird 115.3.2.

After rereading the add-on page, the "Works with" showing 106 max does
not match the statement in the "About" section that says:

Compact Headers version 5.1 supports Thunderbird 115.

The author needs to update his version range in the add-on page if
indeed he has tested it on Tbird 115.

In the "Review" section, a user notes the add-on does not work their
instance of Tbird 115. Some report the add-ons works okay with 115.
Unclear the author actually tested compatibility with 115. But, if it
works for you, great.

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 by: Ed Cryer - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 18:22 UTC

Serdu wrote:
> On 16-Oct-2023 08:11, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Serdu wrote:
>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
>>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply,
>>>>>>> Followup,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Header Pane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>>>>> delete the buttons:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>>>>
>>>>> The website says;
>>>>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> Version 5.1 works.
>>>>
>>>> Download from here:
>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"
>>
>> That Other Version contains this statement;
>> Version 5.1 Released July 18, 2023 8.3 KiB Works with Thunderbird
>> 111.0 - 117.*
>>
>> Ye Gods! Forward-compatibility beyond the grasp of science!
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
> Super crystal ball sees the future. :-)
It tells me to beware of this add-on.
Ed

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 by: Paul - Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:56 UTC

On 10/16/2023 2:22 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Serdu wrote:
>> On 16-Oct-2023 08:11, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> Serdu wrote:
>>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
>>>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>>>>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Header Pane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>>>>>> delete the buttons:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The website says;
>>>>>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 5.1 works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Download from here:
>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"
>>>
>>> That Other Version contains this statement;
>>> Version 5.1 Released July 18, 2023 8.3 KiB Works with Thunderbird 111.0 - 117.*
>>>
>>> Ye Gods! Forward-compatibility beyond the grasp of science!
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>
>> Super crystal ball sees the future. :-)
>
> It tells me to beware of this add-on.
>
> Ed

APIs are frozen for sets of releases.

That is how you can make promises like that.

You would have to look at a diagram of which version
of Firefox was used to make your version of Thunderbird,
to see where this "pattern of frozen APIs" comes from.
It means that 117, is the last version of this group
of Thunderbirds to be using the same version of Firefox ESR.
The add-on tech must be based on a Firefox subsystem.
That's the conclusion you reach, when a developer
tells you this.

They're not saying things like this, to jerk your chain.

Andy seems to know where to find a page with the info
for that.

Paul

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 by: Ed Cryer - Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:37 UTC

Paul wrote:
> On 10/16/2023 2:22 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Serdu wrote:
>>> On 16-Oct-2023 08:11, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> Serdu wrote:
>>>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:43, Serdu wrote:
>>>>>> On 16-Oct-2023 07:37, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16.10.23 09:47, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What I intended was the area that comes between the threads and message
>>>>>>>>> pane. I still don't know what to call it but it has "Reply, Followup,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Header Pane.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want to reduce it install compact headers. It also allows to
>>>>>>>> delete the buttons:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/?src=search
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH, Jörg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Jörg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The website says;
>>>>>>> Works with Thunderbird 102.0 - 106.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried it with 115.3.2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 5.1 works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download from here:
>>>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/compact-headers/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, forgot to mention you need to click on "other version"
>>>>
>>>> That Other Version contains this statement;
>>>> Version 5.1 Released July 18, 2023 8.3 KiB Works with Thunderbird 111.0 - 117.*
>>>>
>>>> Ye Gods! Forward-compatibility beyond the grasp of science!
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>
>>> Super crystal ball sees the future. :-)
>>
>> It tells me to beware of this add-on.
>>
>> Ed
>
> APIs are frozen for sets of releases.
>
> That is how you can make promises like that.
>
> You would have to look at a diagram of which version
> of Firefox was used to make your version of Thunderbird,
> to see where this "pattern of frozen APIs" comes from.
> It means that 117, is the last version of this group
> of Thunderbirds to be using the same version of Firefox ESR.
> The add-on tech must be based on a Firefox subsystem.
> That's the conclusion you reach, when a developer
> tells you this.
>
> They're not saying things like this, to jerk your chain.
>
> Andy seems to know where to find a page with the info
> for that.
>
> Paul
If Mozilla have planned so far ahead, why don't they incorporate this
functionality, rather than leave it to some add-on artist?
Ed


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