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* Seamonkey scroll bar questionHank Rogers
`* Seamonkey scroll bar questionDon Rowse
 +- Seamonkey scroll bar questionHank Rogers
 `* Seamonkey scroll bar questionAndrew
  `* Seamonkey scroll bar questionLemuel Johnson
   `- Seamonkey scroll bar questionHank Rogers

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Seamonkey scroll bar question

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From: hank@nospam.invalid (Hank Rogers)
Subject: Seamonkey scroll bar question
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 by: Hank Rogers - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 22:01 UTC

The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are hidden
until the mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is
always visible though.) I can't see any settings for this
behavior, to make them always visible.

I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe it's
always been this way and I just didn't notice til now.)

Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these arrows
permanently visible? Maybe in about config?

I appreciate any help.

Re: Seamonkey scroll bar question

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Subject: Re: Seamonkey scroll bar question
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 by: Don Rowse - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 00:58 UTC

Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are hidden until the
> mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is always visible though.)
> I can't see any settings for this behavior, to make them always visible.
>
> I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe it's always been
> this way and I just didn't notice til now.)
>
> Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these arrows permanently
> visible? Maybe in about config?
>
> I appreciate any help.

Are you running SeaMonkey on Windows 11? The disappearing up and down
arrows is is a Windows 11 OS feature not seen in earlier versions of
Windows.

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 by: Hank Rogers - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:45 UTC

Don Rowse wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are hidden until the
>> mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is always visible though.)
>> I can't see any settings for this behavior, to make them always visible.
>>
>> I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe it's always been
>> this way and I just didn't notice til now.)
>>
>> Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these arrows permanently
>> visible? Maybe in about config?
>>
>> I appreciate any help.
>
> Are you running SeaMonkey on Windows 11? The disappearing up and down
> arrows is is a Windows 11 OS feature not seen in earlier versions of
> Windows.
>
>

Thanks. Yes, I installed it a week ago. Many things I don't
like. But it's strange that other programs don't have the same
problem. Things look normal in edge, for example.

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 by: Andrew - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:57 UTC

Don Rowse wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are hidden until the
>> mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is always visible though.)
>> I can't see any settings for this behavior, to make them always visible.
>>
>> I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe it's always been
>> this way and I just didn't notice til now.)
>>
>> Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these arrows permanently
>> visible? Maybe in about config?
>>
>> I appreciate any help.
>
> Are you running SeaMonkey on Windows 11? The disappearing up and down
> arrows is is a Windows 11 OS feature not seen in earlier versions of
> Windows.
>
>

I wonder if there's a way of turning that setting off in Windows 11, a
bit of Online searching could throw something up. Any idea what this
feature is called?

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 by: Lemuel Johnson - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:11 UTC

On 1/5/2024 1:57 AM, Andrew wrote:
> Don Rowse wrote:
>> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are hidden until the
>>> mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is always visible though.)
>>> I can't see any settings for this behavior, to make them always visible.
>>>
>>> I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe it's always been
>>> this way and I just didn't notice til now.)
>>>
>>> Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these arrows permanently
>>> visible? Maybe in about config?
>>>
>>> I appreciate any help.
>>
>> Are you running SeaMonkey on Windows 11?  The disappearing up and down
>> arrows is is a Windows 11 OS feature not seen in earlier versions of
>> Windows.
>>
>>
>
> I wonder if there's a way of turning that setting off in Windows 11, a
> bit of Online searching could throw something up.  Any idea what this
> feature is called?

Try this:
https://www.groovypost.com/howto/make-scroll-bars-wider-in-windows-11/

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 by: Hank Rogers - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:45 UTC

Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 1/5/2024 1:57 AM, Andrew wrote:
>> Don Rowse wrote:
>>> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The tiny up and down arrows in the scroll bar slot are
>>>> hidden until the
>>>> mouse pointer is moved there. (The bar itself is always
>>>> visible though.)
>>>> I can't see any settings for this behavior, to make them
>>>> always visible.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using 2.53.18 beta for the last month or so. (Maybe
>>>> it's always been
>>>> this way and I just didn't notice til now.)
>>>>
>>>> Is there a setting I missed, or any way to make these
>>>> arrows permanently
>>>> visible? Maybe in about config?
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate any help.
>>>
>>> Are you running SeaMonkey on Windows 11?  The disappearing
>>> up and down
>>> arrows is is a Windows 11 OS feature not seen in earlier
>>> versions of
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I wonder if there's a way of turning that setting off in
>> Windows 11, a bit of Online searching could throw something
>> up.  Any idea what this feature is called?
>
> Try this:
> https://www.groovypost.com/howto/make-scroll-bars-wider-in-windows-11/
>
I have that set, and the scroll bar shows, but not the little
up and down arrows. They are still hidden until the mouse moves
near them.

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