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 by: David Brooks - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:41 UTC

What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-

Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses for
free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.

https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html

HTH

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 by: Alan - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:14 UTC

On 2022-07-26 14:41, David Brooks wrote:
> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-

First of all, and most importantly:

Never pay attention to you at all.

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In article <tbpsg6$28ll5$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2022-07-26 14:41, David Brooks wrote:
> > What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>
> First of all, and most importantly:
>
> Never pay attention to you at all.

why wait for a virus to do that?

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 by: David Brooks - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 06:48 UTC

On 27/07/2022 00:57, nospam wrote:
> In article <tbpsg6$28ll5$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-07-26 14:41, David Brooks wrote:
>>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>>
>> First of all, and most importantly:
>>
>> Never pay attention to you at all.
>
> why wait for a virus to do that?

Hear what someone else has said:-

In May 2021 Apple’s software chief Craig Federighi took the stand at the
Apple vs Epic trial and said that: “Today, we have a level of malware on
the Mac that we don’t find acceptable.”

https://www.macworld.com/article/670537/do-macs-need-antivirus.html

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 by: David Brooks - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:32 UTC

On 27/07/2022 00:14, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-07-26 14:41, David Brooks wrote:
>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>
> First of all, and most importantly:
>
> Never pay attention to you at all.

Pay heed here then!

https://github.com/community/community/discussions/27266

Please discuss!

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:19 UTC

Am 26.07.22 um 23:41 schrieb David Brooks:
> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>
> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses for
> free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>
> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html

I hardened my Mac in a way that I never have to care about malware or
paid content on macworld.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:21 UTC

Am 27.07.22 um 08:48 schrieb David Brooks:
> https://www.macworld.com/article/670537/do-macs-need-antivirus.html

No, they don't.

--
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 by: David Brooks - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:25 UTC

On 27/07/2022 21:19, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 26.07.22 um 23:41 schrieb David Brooks:
>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>>
>> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
>> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses for
>> free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>>
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>
> I hardened my Mac in a way that I never have to care about malware or
> paid content on macworld.

Thank you for so advising, Joerg.

Please share with other readers what YOU have done.

(For MY part, on one of my Macs, I have installed Linux Mint! That has
'hardened it against Mac malware!)

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In article <yahEK.968862$i8Z9.142466@fx09.ams1>, David Brooks
<nomail@afraid.org> wrote:

>
> (For MY part, on one of my Macs, I have installed Linux Mint! That has
> 'hardened it against Mac malware!)

and opened it up to linux malware.

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 20:40 UTC

Am 27.07.22 um 22:34 schrieb nospam:
> In article <yahEK.968862$i8Z9.142466@fx09.ams1>, David Brooks
> <nomail@afraid.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> (For MY part, on one of my Macs, I have installed Linux Mint! That has
>> 'hardened it against Mac malware!)
>
> and opened it up to linux malware.

The superstupid Trolls can even achieve this ...

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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 by: Bob Campbell - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 03:19 UTC

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Am 27.07.22 um 22:34 schrieb nospam:
>> In article <yahEK.968862$i8Z9.142466@fx09.ams1>, David Brooks
>> <nomail@afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> (For MY part, on one of my Macs, I have installed Linux Mint! That has
>>> 'hardened it against Mac malware!)
>>
>> and opened it up to linux malware.
>
> The superstupid Trolls can even achieve this ...

Super Stupid Troll describes David perfectly.

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 by: Your Name - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 07:10 UTC

On 2022-07-26 21:41:35 +0000, David Brooks said:
>
> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:-
>
> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses
> for free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>
> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>
> HTH

What to do if you think your Mac has a virus: Think again!
It's most likely not malware, but some other software or hardware issue
causing a problem.

All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
is virtually zero.

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 08:32 UTC

On 28/07/2022 08:10, Your Name responded with his/her thoughts!

> On 2022-07-26 21:41:35 +0000, David Brooks showed folk a magazine article
>>
>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:- https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html

>> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
>> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses
>> for free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>>
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>>
>> HTH
>
> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus: Think again!
> It's most likely not malware, but some other software or hardware issue
> causing a problem.

With Apple computers, I completely agree. :-)

> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers to
> sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost nothing
> is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely rare times
> when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly stupid
> (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For any
> normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware is
> virtually zero.

Virtually, yes, but one still needs to be careful.

The Internet is like the wild, wild, west - of 'Cowboys and Indians' times!

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 08:38 UTC

Am 28.07.22 um 10:32 schrieb David Brooks:
> On 28/07/2022 08:10, Your Name responded with his/her thoughts!
>
>> On 2022-07-26 21:41:35 +0000, David Brooks showed folk a magazine article
>>>
>>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:- https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>
>>> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
>>> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses
>>> for free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>>>
>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus: Think again!
>> It's most likely not malware, but some other software or hardware issue
>> causing a problem.
>
> With Apple computers, I completely agree. :-)

The same is true for Linux and in most of the cases for Windows.

Do you believe you are more secure because you installed Mint on one of
your Macs?

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 08:54 UTC

On 28/07/2022 09:38, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 28.07.22 um 10:32 schrieb David Brooks:
>> On 28/07/2022 08:10, Your Name responded with his/her thoughts!
>>
>>> On 2022-07-26 21:41:35 +0000, David Brooks showed folk a magazine article
>>>>
>>>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus:- https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>>
>>>> Mac malware is rare, but it does exist. Here's how to get a free virus
>>>> scan to check for malware on your Mac, how to get rid of Mac viruses
>>>> for free, and how to avoid getting infected in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/671430/how-remove-virus-mac.html
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>
>>> What to do if you think your Mac has a virus: Think again!
>>> It's most likely not malware, but some other software or hardware issue
>>> causing a problem.
>>
>> With Apple computers, I completely agree. :-)
>
> The same is true for Linux and in most of the cases for Windows.

With Windows 10 and 11 I'll agree. I've used most versions since 3.1

> Do you believe you are more secure because you installed Mint on one of
> your Macs?

Security had nothing to do with my decision! Older machines are limited
to older macOS - I wish to remain at the forefront with my operating
system and that was impossible with the older hardware.

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 by: nospam - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:00 UTC

In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
> is virtually zero.

very much false.

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 09:27 UTC

Am 28.07.22 um 11:00 schrieb nospam:
> In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
>> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
>> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
>> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
>> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
>> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
>> is virtually zero.
>
> very much false.

It depends.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 10:41 UTC

On 28/07/2022 10:00, nospam wrote:
> In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
>> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
>> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
>> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
>> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
>> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
>> is virtually zero.
>
> very much false.

Why isn't ClamXAV a contender?

https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/mac-security-test-review-2022/

Do YOU agree that ClamXAV is 'snake oil'?

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 10:42 UTC

On 28/07/2022 10:27, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 28.07.22 um 11:00 schrieb nospam:
>> In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
>>> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
>>> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
>>> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
>>> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
>>> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
>>> is virtually zero.
>>
>> very much false.
>
> It depends.

On what?

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 by: nospam - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:08 UTC

In article <gJtEK.800990$70_9.778681@fx10.ams1>, David Brooks
<nomail@afraid.org> wrote:

>
> Why isn't ClamXAV a contender?
>
> https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/mac-security-test-review-2022/

because they didn't pay to be included. it's basically advertising and
not unique to antivirus.

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:16 UTC

On 28/07/2022 15:08, nospam wrote:
> In article <gJtEK.800990$70_9.778681@fx10.ams1>, David Brooks
> <nomail@afraid.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Why isn't ClamXAV a contender?
>>
>> https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/mac-security-test-review-2022/
>
> because they didn't pay to be included. it's basically advertising and
> not unique to antivirus.

I accept your answer. Thank you.

What do YOU think of this?

https://github.com/community/community/discussions/27266

I did once question them on Facebook. They are (I think) Israeli secret
service folk!

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 by: nospam - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:29 UTC

In article <dTwEK.509226$B0_9.29275@fx13.ams1>, David Brooks
<nomail@afraid.org> wrote:

>
> I did once question them on Facebook. They are (I think) Israeli secret
> service folk!

they're too busy working on space lasers.

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:34 UTC

On 28/07/2022 15:29, nospam wrote:
> In article <dTwEK.509226$B0_9.29275@fx13.ams1>, David Brooks
> <nomail@afraid.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I did once question them on Facebook. They are (I think) Israeli secret
>> service folk!
>
> they're too busy working on space lasers.

There's a message for you here:-

Message-ID: <16xEK.964346$4O6a.169821@fx14.ams1>

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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:39 UTC

Am 28.07.22 um 12:41 schrieb David Brooks:
> On 28/07/2022 10:00, nospam wrote:
>> In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
>>> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
>>> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
>>> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
>>> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
>>> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
>>> is virtually zero.
>>
>> very much false.
>
> Why isn't ClamXAV a contender?
>
> https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/mac-security-test-review-2022/
>
> Do YOU agree that ClamXAV is 'snake oil'?

They did not pay for inclusion in these "$tests$".
They are not better than the rest, performance wise probably less.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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 by: David Brooks - Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:46 UTC

On 28/07/2022 15:39, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 28.07.22 um 12:41 schrieb David Brooks:
>> On 28/07/2022 10:00, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <tbtcpe$4kk$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All the malware reported on the Mac is done so by anti-malware makers
>>>> to sell their product, most of it nothing but theoretical. Almost
>>>> nothing is ever actually found in real life, and even the extremely
>>>> rare times when it is it's due to the user doing something incredibly
>>>> stupid (visiting porn websites, installing pirate software, etc.). For
>>>> any normal user, the chances of their Mac getting infected by malware
>>>> is virtually zero.
>>>
>>> very much false.
>>
>> Why isn't ClamXAV a contender?
>>
>> https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/mac-security-test-review-2022/
>>
>> Do YOU agree that ClamXAV is 'snake oil'?
>
> They did not pay for inclusion in these "$tests$".
> They are not better than the rest, performance wise probably less.

I accept what you say.

You've not been 'here' very long. You may have missed this thread:-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/all/ramnit-trojan-on-imac-aol-disk-from-2008-false/e18cc0a4-5895-412e-9306-e565d2571849

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