Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:30:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
> <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>
> >Windows 11.1 preview is here:
> >
> ><https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
> ><https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
> ><https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
> ><https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
> ><https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
> >
> Is that all? Who thinks that's worth waiting for?

I much more enjoyed a subsequent video which YouTube presented:

'Upgrading From Windows 1.0 to Windows 8 On Actual Hardware'
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WP7AkJo3OE>

The guy goes from Windows 1.01 all the way to Windows 8.1 (Preview),
via

Windows 2.03
Windows 3.0
Windows 3.1
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows Me
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7

It's way too long (1:14:15) to watch, but the idea is quite fun.

On 17/06/2021 15:18, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:30:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
>> <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 11.1 preview is here:
>>>
>>> <https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
>>> <https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
>>> <https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
>>> <https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
>>> <https://youtu.be/cN4j7Hw7Zs0>
>>>
>> Is that all? Who thinks that's worth waiting for?
>
> I much more enjoyed a subsequent video which YouTube presented:
>
> 'Upgrading From Windows 1.0 to Windows 8 On Actual Hardware'
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WP7AkJo3OE>
>
> The guy goes from Windows 1.01 all the way to Windows 8.1 (Preview),
> via
>
> Windows 2.03
> Windows 3.0
> Windows 3.1
> Windows 95
> Windows 98
> Windows Me
> Windows XP
> Windows Vista
> Windows 7
>
> It's way too long (1:14:15) to watch, but the idea is quite fun.
>

They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
I'm thankful for small mercies.)

On 18/06/2021 06:52, occam wrote:
> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
> eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
> I'm thankful for small mercies.)

I don't know why there is so much said against Windows Me.
I didn't find it any worse than Windows 98.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 12:56:45 +0100, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/06/2021 06:52, occam wrote:
>> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
>> eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
>> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
>> I'm thankful for small mercies.)
>
>I don't know why there is so much said against Windows Me.
>I didn't find it any worse than Windows 98.

+1 used every version except Win2000 amd don't know why I missed that.
None of them have taken more than a few minutes to find the features I
think are important or to dispose of the highlighted features I don't
intend to use.

On 6/18/21 12:52 AM, occam wrote:

[snip]

> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
> eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
> I'm thankful for small mercies.)

ME wasn't much different from 98, although it had have the new more
fragile help system (which wasn't very helpful). Two advantage I
remember it that it included the driver for USB storage devices, and it
came on a bootable CD (IIRC 98 required a floppy).

This was far less of an improvement then when I went to 2000. If this
wasn't incompatible with so much of the new stuff, I'd still call it the
best version of Windows. Among other things, this was the last version
without the assume-you're-a-thief junk misleadingly called "activation".

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The truths which God revealed have been overthrown by the truths which
man has discovered." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading
And Other Essays_, 1911]

On 6/18/21 6:56 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 18/06/2021 06:52, occam wrote:
>> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
>> eyes.  This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
>> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
>> I'm thankful for small mercies.)
>
> I don't know why there is so much said against Windows Me.
> I didn't find it any worse than Windows 98.

I didn't either. IIRC I read something about ME often being distributed
with marginal hardware. People were then blaming the wrong thing. The ME
I had was an upgrade.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The truths which God revealed have been overthrown by the truths which
man has discovered." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading
And Other Essays_, 1911]

On 6/18/21 9:06 AM, Peter Johnson wrote:

[snip]

> +1 used every version except Win2000 amd don't know why I missed that.
> None of them have taken more than a few minutes to find the features I
> think are important or to dispose of the highlighted features I don't
> intend to use.

At the time I found 2000 to be the best version.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The truths which God revealed have been overthrown by the truths which
man has discovered." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading
And Other Essays_, 1911]

Mark Lloyd graced us with on 6/18/2021 10:52 AM:
> On 6/18/21 12:52 AM, occam wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
>> eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
>> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
>> I'm thankful for small mercies.)
>
> ME wasn't much different from 98, although it had have the new more
> fragile help system (which wasn't very helpful). Two advantage I
> remember it that it included the driver for USB storage devices, and it
> came on a bootable CD (IIRC 98 required a floppy).
>
> This was far less of an improvement then when I went to 2000. If this
> wasn't incompatible with so much of the new stuff, I'd still call it the
> best version of Windows. Among other things, this was the last version
> without the assume-you're-a-thief junk misleadingly called "activation".
>
That was my biggest rub with it. All the hype was mostly smoke and
mirrors. Also, I seem to recall that it introduced some compatibility
issues from my Win98SE system but that was so long ago, I can't recall
now what those were, only that they forced me to uninstall WinMe and
reinstall Win98.

--
Sailfish
CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg

On 6/18/2021 7:56 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 18/06/2021 06:52, occam wrote:
>> They say when you are about to die, your life experiences flash by your
>> eyes. This was like a preview of that. At this rate, it's going to be a
>> slow, arduous and excruciatingly dull death. (I missed out on Win Me, so
>> I'm thankful for small mercies.)
>
> I don't know why there is so much said against Windows Me.
> I didn't find it any worse than Windows 98.
>

Windows 98, especially SE, was a great OS. Very light weight, and there
are, to this day, some hacked browsers that can "function" on the web on
Win 98.

ME should have never existed... could have easily waited for XP. ME was
rushed out when consumers were confused by the release of Windows 2000
-- home users were buying it thinking it was the next home release.
I've tried to install and run ME in the past... same hardware as 98 SE,
yet I've never experienced so many BSOD's before. Yuck.

On 6/18/2021 10:55 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 6/18/21 9:06 AM, Peter Johnson wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> +1 used every version except Win2000 amd don't know why I missed that.
>> None of them have taken more than a few minutes to find the features I
>> think are important or to dispose of the highlighted features I don't
>> intend to use.
>
> At the time I found 2000 to be the best version.

Except for the NT versions, I've run every version since 2.0. I never
thought any version was perfect, but in general I liked them all nd
thought every version was better than its predecessor with the exception
of 8.0, which I hated.

--
Ken

On 6/18/21 3:24 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

[snip]

> ME should have never existed... could have easily waited for XP.  ME was
> rushed out when consumers were confused by the release of Windows 2000
> -- home users were buying it thinking it was the next home release. I've
> tried to install and run ME in the past... same hardware as 98 SE, yet
> I've never experienced so many BSOD's before.  Yuck.

I god a lot of those BSODs with ME. Just like 98. 2000 avoided mst of them.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the
state of facts and evidence." -- John Adams

On 6/19/2021 10:54 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 6/18/21 3:24 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> ME should have never existed... could have easily waited for XP. ME
>> was rushed out when consumers were confused by the release of Windows
>> 2000 -- home users were buying it thinking it was the next home
>> release. I've tried to install and run ME in the past... same hardware
>> as 98 SE, yet I've never experienced so many BSOD's before. Yuck.
>
> I god a lot of those BSODs with ME. Just like 98. 2000 avoided mst of them.
>

I did as well, but ME still seemed glitchier, like a lot of thought
didn't go into the OS in whole. The kind of put makeup on 98 SE.

On 6/19/2021 9:20 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 6/19/2021 10:54 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On 6/18/21 3:24 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> ME should have never existed... could have easily waited for XP. ME
>>> was rushed out when consumers were confused by the release of Windows
>>> 2000 -- home users were buying it thinking it was the next home
>>> release. I've tried to install and run ME in the past... same hardware
>>> as 98 SE, yet I've never experienced so many BSOD's before. Yuck.
>>
>> I god a lot of those BSODs with ME. Just like 98. 2000 avoided mst of them.
>>
>
> I did as well, but ME still seemed glitchier, like a lot of thought
> didn't go into the OS in whole. The kind of put makeup on 98 SE.

You're saying what many other people said, but it wasn't my experience.
I had no problems with Me.

--
Ken

On 2021-06-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
> On 6/19/2021 9:20 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 6/19/2021 10:54 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> On 6/18/21 3:24 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> ME should have never existed... could have easily waited for XP.  ME
>>>> was rushed out when consumers were confused by the release of Windows
>>>> 2000 -- home users were buying it thinking it was the next home
>>>> release. I've tried to install and run ME in the past... same hardware
>>>> as 98 SE, yet I've never experienced so many BSOD's before.  Yuck.
>>>
>>> I god a lot of those BSODs with ME. Just like 98. 2000 avoided mst of
>>> them.
>>>
>>
>> I did as well, but ME still seemed glitchier, like a lot of thought
>> didn't go into the OS in whole.  The kind of put makeup on 98 SE.
>
>
> You're saying what many other people said, but it wasn't my experience.
> I had no problems with Me.
>
>

Yeah, I had no problems with ME, always wondered what the hell everyone
was bellyacking about, Only ever had 1 or 2 blue screens throughout its
life. :-)

Rene

Ken Blake wrote:
> On 6/18/2021 10:55 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On 6/18/21 9:06 AM, Peter Johnson wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> +1 used every version except Win2000 amd don't know why I missed that.
>>> None of them have taken more than a few minutes to find the features I
>>> think are important or to dispose of the highlighted features I don't
>>> intend to use.
>>
>> At the time I found 2000 to be the best version.
>
>
> Except for the NT versions, I've run every version since 2.0. I never
> thought any version was perfect, but in general I liked them all nd
> thought every version was better than its predecessor with the exception
> of 8.0, which I hated.
>
8.0 was like ME.
- occasionally a black sheep appears in the family

--
....w¡ñ§±¤n

On 18/06/2021 18:55, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 6/18/21 9:06 AM, Peter Johnson wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> +1 used every version except Win2000 amd don't know why I missed that.
>> None of them have taken more than a few minutes to find the features I
>> think are important or to dispose of the highlighted features I don't
>> intend to use.
>
> At the time I found 2000 to be the best version.
>

I didn't use it much because I never owned a copy myself but yes, W2000
was like a fast lean mean basic version of XP.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

On 19/06/2021 18:29, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> Yeah, I had no problems with ME, always wondered what the hell everyone
> was bellyacking about, Only ever had 1 or 2 blue screens throughout its
> life. :-)

+1

Maybe it depended on what hardware you had?

--
Brian Gregory (in England).