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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: paulie420@BEERS20.remove-ziv-this (paulie420)
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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by: paulie420 - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 20:59 UTC

To: Nightfox
Ni> pa> Same here; I believe this has to do with current hardware, OS and
Ni> pa> softwares that we all run - neat that protocols perform differently 3
Ni> pa> years later, but kermit flies for me over telnet/ssh in terminal.
Ni>
Ni> I think they're performing differently because we're using them on an
Ni> internet connection rather than a serial/modem connection. File transfer
Ni> protcools such as Kermit, X/Y/Zmodem etc. were designed for serial
Ni> connections (with considerations for dialup modems) and as such, they
Ni> were designed for raw data connections. But all the software that works
Ni> with an internet connection uses network protocols such as TCP/IP &
Ni> such, which already have software mechanisms for transferring data back
Ni> & forth. As such, adding another file transfer protocol such as Zmodem
Ni> or Kermit onto that is redundant. A file transfer protocol that has
Ni> minimal overhead (which I think is true for Kermit) probably is faster
Ni> over the internet than something like Zmodem.

100% - its using these tools on our new tech that causes the differences. Regardless, its way better to just use www download links; but since people like using the terminal when bbsing, it is worthwhile that mL helps us offer kermit... mystic is a different beast. :P

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From: phigan@TACOPRON.remove-ht4-this (Phigan)
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by: Phigan - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:57 UTC

To: paulie420
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 18 2023 08:59 pm

> Regardless, its way better to just use www download links; but since people
> like using the terminal when bbsing, it is worthwhile that mL helps us offer

I demand jmodem support, damnit!!

*cough*

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by: Bf2k+ - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:19 UTC

To: Phigan
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am

Don't forget LModem...

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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by: MRO - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 02:30 UTC

To: Bf2k+
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Bf2k+ to Phigan on Sat Aug 19 2023 09:19 am

> Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
> By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
>
> Don't forget LModem...

whats lmodem?
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by: Bf2k+ - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 04:08 UTC

To: MRO
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 19 2023 09:30 pm

> whats lmodem?
In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.

I was just mentioning it to Phigan as a joke...

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by: The Lizard Master - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 12:17 UTC

To: Phigan
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am

> I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
>
> *cough*

I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!

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by: Phigan - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:46 UTC

To: The Lizard Master
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: The Lizard Master to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:17 am

> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today.
> Who's with me!

Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such support already!

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by: Digital Man - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:20 UTC

To: Phigan
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 21 2023 09:46 am

> > I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today.
> > Who's with me!
>
> Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> support already!

https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300
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by: Ragnarok - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:47 UTC

To: The Lizard Master
El 21/8/23 a las 09:17, The Lizard Master escribió:
> Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
> By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
>
> > I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
> >
> > *cough*
>
> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
>
SBBS support for external protocols, maybe a good implementation of
punker could be work

syncterm have not this way.

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by: Phigan - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 02:48 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 10:20 am

> > Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> > support already!
>
> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300

Ahhh, that's more like it :).

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by: The Lizard Master - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 11:25 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 10:20 am

> > > I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting
> > > today. Who's with me!
>
> > Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> > support already!
>
> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300

Protest withdrawn.

---TLM

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From: dredster@CAVERNS.remove-vj8-this (Dredster)
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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by: Dredster - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:43 UTC

To: Bf2k+
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sun Aug 20 2023 09:08 pm

> > whats lmodem?
> In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.
>
> I was just mentioning it to Phigan as a joke...
>

You forgot the old C= standard, Punter!

Dred

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by: Dredster - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:44 UTC

To: The Lizard Master
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: The Lizard Master to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:17 am

> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
>
> ---TLM

And as soon as I mention Punter, the very NEXT message mentions Punter :)

Dred

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computers / alt.bbs.synchronet / Re: kermit protocol in sy

computers / alt.bbs.synchronet / Re: kermit protocol in sy

Subject	Author
kermit protocol in sy	paulie420
kermit protocol in sy	Phigan
kermit protocol in sy	Bf2k+
kermit protocol in sy	MRO
kermit protocol in sy	Bf2k+
kermit protocol in sy	Dredster
kermit protocol in sy	The Lizard Master
kermit protocol in sy	Phigan
kermit protocol in sy	Digital Man
kermit protocol in sy	Phigan
kermit protocol in sy	The Lizard Master
kermit protocol in sy	Ragnarok
kermit protocol in sy	Dredster