Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/
experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

Hi Seth,

> Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/
> experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
> would be great.

I would suggest the "Setting up UUCP feeds" section of the send-uucp
documentation:
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

I wrote it last year and of course I'll happily improve it in case some
things are not clear enough. You'll probably be the first to try these
instructions.

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Am 05.02.2023 um 09:00:56 Uhr schrieb seth hurst:

> I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap.

Feel free to ask there.

In article <trnr88$142l$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
seth hurst <hurstseth405@gmail.com> wrote:
>Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/
>experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
>find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
>would be great.

Are you using Taylor or built in?
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In article <trnuid$ltit$2@news.trigofacile.com>,
Julien � LIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> wrote:
>Hi Seth,
>
>> Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/
>> experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
>> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
>> would be great.
>
>I would suggest the "Setting up UUCP feeds" section of the send-uucp
>documentation:
> https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html
>
>I wrote it last year and of course I'll happily improve it in case some
>things are not clear enough. You'll probably be the first to try these
>instructions.
>
>--
>Julien ÉLIE
>
>« Le rire est une chose sérieuse avec laquelle il ne faut pas
> plaisanter. » (Raymond Devos)

UUCP for NEWs or NEws and Mail?
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Hi,
seth hurst a tapoté le 05/02/2023 10:00:
> I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
> would be great.

I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it :
<https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>

HTH!

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yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid> wrote:
> seth hurst a tapoté le 05/02/2023 10:00:
>> I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
>> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
>> would be great.
>
> I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it :
> <https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>

Here are old FAQs:

schaefer@shakotay:/data/www/archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq$ find . -iname '*uucp*'
../linux/howto/uucp
../linux/howto/uucp-howto
../linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
../de/comm/uucp
../fr/linux/howto/uucp-howto
../fr/linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
../uucp-internals
../amiga/amigauucp-faq

See them on: https://archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq/

I stopped using UUCP in 2003.

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In article <trqkdo$umr$3@shakotay.alphanet.ch>,
Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch> wrote:
>yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid> wrote:
>> seth hurst a tapot� le 05/02/2023 10:00:
>>> I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
>>> find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
>>> would be great.
>>
>> I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it :
>> <https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>
>
>Here are old FAQs:
>
>schaefer@shakotay:/data/www/archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq$ find . -iname '*uucp*'
>./linux/howto/uucp
>./linux/howto/uucp-howto
>./linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
>./de/comm/uucp
>./fr/linux/howto/uucp-howto
>./fr/linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
>./uucp-internals
>./amiga/amigauucp-faq
>
>See them on: https://archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq/
>
>I stopped using UUCP in 2003.
>

UUCP over TCPIP is also an option.

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On 2/5/23 2:00 AM, seth hurst wrote:
> Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing
> around / experimentation.

I'm sure there is. Though I don't know what to point to without looking
for what's currently available.

> I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could find was back
> to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files would be great.

I found that the UUCP documents in The Linux Documentation Project and /
or Taylor UUCP (no known relationship) work fairly well.

I think that Taylor UUCP is probably the most friendly UUCP
implementation to work with.

Are you wanting to use serial (modem or null), TCP, STDIO, or something
else?

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On 2/6/23 8:25 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> UUCP over TCPIP is also an option.

Yep.

I'm using Taylor UUCP via STDIO through SSH connections.

N.B. this is NOT TCP based UUCP using port forwarding. Rather it is
using SSH in lieu of modem.

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Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:14:50 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:

> On 2/5/23 2:00 AM, seth hurst wrote:
>> [quoted text muted]
>
> I'm sure there is. Though I don't know what to point to without looking
> for what's currently available.
>
>> [quoted text muted]
>
> I found that the UUCP documents in The Linux Documentation Project and /
> or Taylor UUCP (no known relationship) work fairly well.
>
> I think that Taylor UUCP is probably the most friendly UUCP
> implementation to work with.
>
> Are you wanting to use serial (modem or null), TCP, STDIO, or something
> else?
>
>
>

seth hurst <hurstseth405@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

I did that a loong time ago (around 1995) when I only had a dialup
modem, and inter-cantonal dialing was very expensive. I dialled a Sun
computer locally and then redirected through TCP to get my UUCP feed.

A few years later, I had fixed IP CATV networking and thus could
do UUCP over TCP (and also FTN, Fidonet). Taylor UUCP had native
support for this AFAIK. Then in 2003, I dropped all UUCP support,
having on the Internet side already switched to SMTP/NNTP, and
most of my users having either a dialup or fixnet Internet access,
using IMAP/POP/SMTP, or getting SLIP/PPP from me.

Now, a simpler way to play with UUCP concepts today would simply to
create rnews and rmail batches, copy them with scp, and then run rnews
and rmail on the file remotely.

On 2/6/23 9:46 PM, seth hurst wrote:
> Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

Taylor UUCP has TCP/IP support built in. No need for netcat or the likes.

N.B. Telnet is not guaranteed to be 8-bit clean / safe. Make sure that
what you push through it doesn't have problems.

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On 2/7/23 3:03 AM, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:
> Now, a simpler way to play with UUCP concepts today would simply
> to create rnews and rmail batches, copy them with scp, and then run
> rnews and rmail on the file remotely.

Just rnews / rmail don't provide the remote command / file copy /
forwarding / routing / etc. features that UUCP proper provides.

Taylor UUCP via TCP/IP or SSH is simple enough and provides more features.

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Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> Just rnews / rmail don't provide the remote command / file copy /
> forwarding / routing / etc. features that UUCP proper provides.

Right, I deactivated all of those, of course, when I was running a
public UUCP servers :)

I think I left the option to get files from a specific chroot, though,
but noone used that. People were very fond of BMS a the time, a system
to retrieve files via e-mail, and I also had a FTP and HTTP-to-e-mail
gateway :)

> Taylor UUCP via TCP/IP or SSH is simple enough and provides more features.

Yes, I think I used the variant through SSH.

When non-interactivity and file transfer in batches was "à la mode", but
UUCP started dying, I even developped a Batch SMTP (BSMTP) mode, that
was usable either through UUCP or through HTTP. I also offered news
batches via HTTP.

All this predates 2003.

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