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* CUPS problemBob Tennent
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+* Re: CUPS problemAndreas Kohlbach
|`* Re: CUPS problemBob Tennent
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+* Re: CUPS problemThe Natural Philosopher
|`* Re: CUPS problemBob Tennent
| `* Re: CUPS problemJim Jackson
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Subject: Re: CUPS problem
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 12:34 UTC

On 20/10/2023 13:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-10-20 04:05, Bob Tennent wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:59:15 -0000 (UTC), Bob Tennent wrote:
>>   > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:00:00 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>   > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:28:37 -0400, Bob Tennent
>> <rdtennent@tennent.ca>
>>   > > wrote:
>>   > >> On my system, execute permission for users on ipp seems to
>>   > >> be necessary.
>>   > >
>>   > > The user doesn't run /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp. That's run by
>> cupsd.
>>   > >
>>   > > For example, boomaga and ipp backends have the permissions ...
>>   > > -rwx------ 1 root root 37016 Apr  4  2021
>> /usr/lib/cups/backend/boomaga*
>>   > > -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 85416 Sep 26 03:26
>> /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp*
>>   >
>>   > Then why with those permissions on ipp do I get
>>   >
>>   > "Could not start IPP Backend (/usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp):
>>   >  13 Permission denied"
>>   >
>>   > which I don't get if I chmod +x /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp
>>   >
>>
>> Furthermore, I've just checked two other Linux Mint systems
>> and ipp has permissions rwxr-xr-x in both.
>
> I checked my laptop with openSUSE Leap:
>
> Laicolasse:~ # l /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp
> -rwx------ 1 root root 80016 Sep 12 14:19 /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp*
> Laicolasse:~ #
>

Juliet$ ls -l /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84368 Sep 15 12:20 /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp

Cymbeline:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84368 Sep 15 12:20 /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp

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Subject: Re: CUPS problem
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 by: Bob Tennent - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:15 UTC

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 13:33:47 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 22:05:40 -0400, Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:59:15 -0000 (UTC), Bob Tennent wrote:
>> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:00:00 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:28:37 -0400, Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> On my system, execute permission for users on ipp seems to
>> > >> be necessary.
>> > >
>> > > The user doesn't run /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp. That's run by cupsd.
>> > >
>> > > For example, boomaga and ipp backends have the permissions ...
>> > > -rwx------ 1 root root 37016 Apr 4 2021 /usr/lib/cups/backend/boomaga*
>> > > -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 85416 Sep 26 03:26 /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp*
>> >
>> > Then why with those permissions on ipp do I get
>> >
>> > "Could not start IPP Backend (/usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp):
>> > 13 Permission denied"
>> >
>> > which I don't get if I chmod +x /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp
>> >
>>
>> Furthermore, I've just checked two other Linux Mint systems
>> and ipp has permissions rwxr-xr-x in both.
>>
>> Are you a cups developer? Why are you so sure of this?
>
> I'm not a cups developer. I'm a former leader of the qa team for Mageia linux,
> and just reporting how my current Mageia 8 installation is set up in terms of
> ownership and permissions, where ipp works.
>
> In Mageia 8, cupsd runs as root. Does it not run as root on your installs?
> If so, that would explain the different results.

I believe that on Mint cupsd runs as root but for security
reasons spawns a user process (perhaps nologin user
cups-pk-helper?) to run ipp.

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