Usually I access the pages of youtube videos for the purpose of getting
information about the video (as opposed to actually watching the video)
through a script of my own. One of the things it displayed until recently was
the rating of a video. Basically somewhere on the source of the video page
there would be something like

"averageRating":"4.9422383"

as part of a lot of Javascript. But in the last few days I have not be seeing
this. I saw it most recently with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXun3qpzpDk
on 2021-12-12. Now even that video doesn't have it. Looking at this and some
other video pages with a couple of different browsers I don't see any "rating"
(I still see "Likes" and "Dislikes"). So I am hoping that you can do some
tests of your own and report. If you have a youtube account (I don't) try the
page with and without being logged in to see if a rating appears on one
occasion but not the other.

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Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> Usually I access the pages of youtube videos for the purpose of getting
> information about the video (as opposed to actually watching the video)
> through a script of my own. One of the things it displayed until recently was
> the rating of a video. Basically somewhere on the source of the video page
> there would be something like
>
> "averageRating":"4.9422383"

They recently disabled "disliking" a video, to prevent hurting people's
feelings, probably the rating had to go for the same reasons?

Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021, um 09:43:18 Uhr schrieb Andy Burns:

> They recently disabled "disliking" a video, to prevent hurting
> people's feelings, probably the rating had to go for the same reasons?

They just don't want that people can say that they don't like some
videos. Especially government operated channel's videos were massively
disliked by some people, so they channel operator decided to turn the
voting system off. Not YT seems to have disabled the dislike function
at all, so people can't say "I don't like that" anymore.

Marco Moock wrote:

> YT seems to have disabled the dislike function
> at all, so people can't say "I don't like that" anymore.

You can still click dislike, but it doesn't show the world how many people have
done so.

Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021, um 10:19:04 Uhr schrieb Andy Burns:

> You can still click dislike, but it doesn't show the world how many
> people have done so.
That is what some channel operator wanted: Others can't see anymore
that I video is being disliked by many people.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:48:27 +0100
Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021, um 10:19:04 Uhr schrieb Andy Burns:
>
> > You can still click dislike, but it doesn't show the world how many
> > people have done so.
> That is what some channel operator wanted: Others can't see anymore
> that I video is being disliked by many people.

But the video uploader can , right ?

Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021, um 11:34:52 Uhr schrieb Spiros
Bousbouras:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:48:27 +0100
> Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2021, um 10:19:04 Uhr schrieb Andy Burns:
> >
> > > You can still click dislike, but it doesn't show the world how
> > > many people have done so.
> > That is what some channel operator wanted: Others can't see anymore
> > that I video is being disliked by many people.
>
> But the video uploader can , right ?

As I now know, yes.

Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> Marco Moock wrote:
>
>> That is what some channel operator wanted: Others can't see anymore
>> that I video is being disliked by many people.
>
> But the video uploader can , right ?

yes, see EEVblab #89, so the initial argument it stops people feeling hurt that
people dislike their video, is bumph.

In comp.misc Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
>> Marco Moock wrote:
>>
>>> That is what some channel operator wanted: Others can't see anymore
>>> that I video is being disliked by many people.
>>
>> But the video uploader can , right ?
>
> yes, see EEVblab #89, so the initial argument it stops people feeling
> hurt that people dislike their video, is bumph.

Given the fragile snowflakes that have been raised as the most recent
new generation, where everyone got a "participation trophy" for the
game, but no team "won" or "lost" it coddles the new generation in the
way they have grown accustomed to being coddled.

Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:

> Usually I access the pages of youtube videos for the purpose of getting
> information about the video (as opposed to actually watching the video)
> through a script of my own. One of the things it displayed until recently was
> the rating of a video. Basically somewhere on the source of the video page
> there would be something like
>
> "averageRating":"4.9422383"
>
> as part of a lot of Javascript. But in the last few days I have not be seeing
> this. I saw it most recently with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXun3qpzpDk
> on 2021-12-12. Now even that video doesn't have it. Looking at this and some
> other video pages with a couple of different browsers I don't see any "rating"
> (I still see "Likes" and "Dislikes"). So I am hoping that you can do some
> tests of your own and report. If you have a youtube account (I don't) try the
> page with and without being logged in to see if a rating appears on one
> occasion but not the other.

Go here:

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-to-youtube-dislike-counts?hl=en

This explains why you are no longer seeing that data.

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Dan Espen

On 12/21/2021 09:26 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Usually I access the pages of youtube videos for the purpose of getting
>> information about the video (as opposed to actually watching the video)
>> through a script of my own. One of the things it displayed until recently was
>> the rating of a video. Basically somewhere on the source of the video page
>> there would be something like
>>
>> "averageRating":"4.9422383"
>>
>> as part of a lot of Javascript. But in the last few days I have not be seeing
>> this. I saw it most recently with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXun3qpzpDk
>> on 2021-12-12. Now even that video doesn't have it. Looking at this and some
>> other video pages with a couple of different browsers I don't see any "rating"
>> (I still see "Likes" and "Dislikes"). So I am hoping that you can do some
>> tests of your own and report. If you have a youtube account (I don't) try the
>> page with and without being logged in to see if a rating appears on one
>> occasion but not the other.
>
> Go here:
>
> https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-to-youtube-dislike-counts?hl=en
>
> This explains why you are no longer seeing that data.

Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of
the kitchen.

OTOH, perhaps the Governments (apparently their videos draw a lot of
dislikes) themselves are the snowflakes...

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Cheers, Bev
"On the other hand, I live in California so I'd be willing to
squeeze schoolchildren to death if I thought some oil would
come out." -- Scott Adams

Am Freitag, 24. Dezember 2021, um 10:22:58 Uhr schrieb The Real Bev:

> Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out
> of the kitchen.
>
> OTOH, perhaps the Governments (apparently their videos draw a lot of
> dislikes) themselves are the snowflakes...

For, Germany this is true and also applies to semi-governmental TV
stations. Also politicians and parties are affected by a big amount of
dislikes.

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 19:24:56 +0100
Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am Freitag, 24. Dezember 2021, um 10:22:58 Uhr schrieb The Real Bev:
>
> > Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out
> > of the kitchen.
> >
> > OTOH, perhaps the Governments (apparently their videos draw a lot of
> > dislikes) themselves are the snowflakes...
>
> For, Germany this is true and also applies to semi-governmental TV
> stations. Also politicians and parties are affected by a big amount of
> dislikes.

Does the rating of videos still affect the order in which youtube presents
videos , after a search for example ?

On Tuesday, 21 December 2021 at 10:43:20 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
> > Usually I access the pages of youtube videos for the purpose of getting
> > information about the video (as opposed to actually watching the video)
> > through a script of my own. One of the things it displayed until recently was
> > the rating of a video. Basically somewhere on the source of the video page
> > there would be something like
> >
> > "averageRating":"4.9422383"
> They recently disabled "disliking" a video, to prevent hurting people's
> feelings, probably the rating had to go for the same reasons?

It's the dumbing down of all nations: as we knew when these things were still studied, likes vs dislikes is the minimum level of user rating whose aggregation becomes info for exploration: and they are gradually dismantling any of it from all platforms, not just YouTube that's actually been resisting for longer than others, since we brainwashed slaves can only like stuff, buy it, eat it, and die... It's about the extinction of thinking: of the very idea of any understanding, or judgment, or critical thinking and of course, God forbid, of any dissent.

But people won't get it: for every sociopathic genocidal cunt who runs this planet, there are millions of retarded pieces of shit who keep making that possible. I am indeed vouching for a mass extinction proper, as a whole we are a cosmic cancer and disgrace.

Happy forgetting,

Julio

In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of
> the kitchen.

The opposite: the creator of the video can still see the number of dislikes.
If they were offended by that before, they still will be.

The difference is that an organised dislike campaign doesn't get any
gratification from seeing the dislike count rise, and YT hope this will
reduce the impact of campaigns to remove revenue from creators through using
the dislike feature as a weapon, like an inverse petition.

Theo

On Sunday, 26 December 2021 at 21:59:41 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
> In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of
> > the kitchen.
> The opposite: the creator of the video can still see the number of dislikes.
> If they were offended by that before, they still will be.
>
> The difference is that an organised dislike campaign doesn't get any
> gratification from seeing the dislike count rise, and YT hope this will
> reduce the impact of campaigns to remove revenue from creators through using
> the dislike feature as a weapon, like an inverse petition.

Snowflake protection your ass, but with this follow up we are back to the fraudulent cunts realm proper.

Enjoy,

Julio

On Monday, 27 December 2021 at 08:59:57 UTC+1, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 December 2021 at 21:59:41 UTC+1, Theo wrote:
> > In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Snowflake Protection policy. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of
> > > the kitchen.
> > The opposite: the creator of the video can still see the number of dislikes.
> > If they were offended by that before, they still will be.
> >
> > The difference is that an organised dislike campaign doesn't get any
> > gratification from seeing the dislike count rise, and YT hope this will
> > reduce the impact of campaigns to remove revenue from creators through using
> > the dislike feature as a weapon, like an inverse petition.
> Snowflake protection your ass, but with this follow up we are back to the fraudulent cunts realm proper.
>
> Enjoy,

Actually, fuck you retarded cunts, eat your own shit and die.

*Plonk*

Julio

Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> Given the fragile snowflakes that have been raised as the most recent
> new generation, where everyone got a "participation trophy" for the
> game, but no team "won" or "lost" it coddles the new generation in the
> way they have grown accustomed to being coddled.

The idea of "new participation trophies" is a myth.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/participation-trophy-history-world-war-i.html
https://www.insidehook.com/article/news-opinion/participation-trophies-pros-and-cons

Followup-to: soc.misc
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