$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.7.9 #2 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Mar 10 14:14:24 PDT 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

...can't do that with Windows!

(Built it with gcc- and g++-12)

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> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.7.9 #2 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Mar 10 14:14:24 PDT 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> ...can't do that with Windows!
>
> (Built it with gcc- and g++-12)

There's C++ in the kernel code now?

Anyway, on my old Ubuntu laptop:

Linux mlsasus 5.15.0-97-generic #107~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 9 14:20:11
UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

No glitches with MIDI or audio in this generic colonel.

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On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:42:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Anyway, on my old Ubuntu laptop:
>
> Linux mlsasus 5.15.0-97-generic #107~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 9
> 14:20:11 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

The Fedora box is up to 6.7.4-200 and the Ubuntu one is 6.5.0-21. Fedora
updates the kernel frequently but I haven't noticed any difference. I
would have to dig up the change logs to see what they tinkered with.

On 2024-03-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:42:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Anyway, on my old Ubuntu laptop:
>>
>> Linux mlsasus 5.15.0-97-generic #107~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 9
>> 14:20:11 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> The Fedora box is up to 6.7.4-200 and the Ubuntu one is 6.5.0-21. Fedora
> updates the kernel frequently but I haven't noticed any difference. I
> would have to dig up the change logs to see what they tinkered with.

I'm on the Fedora laptop now. I got chased out of my secondary computer room
by a guest (my wife's sister). So now I'm downstairs at the dining room
table.

The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm typing this
on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main desktop upstairs using
No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says when I have updates (notice
appears on the top-right corner) so I just run 'sudo dnf update' — it works
fine.

Basically Linux is Linux — especially when you the same Desktop on both
distributions (Cinnamon in my case). My main desktop computer is still
running Linux Mint 20.3 and its kernel is 5.4.0-173.

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:12:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm typing
> this on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main desktop
> upstairs using No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says when I have
> updates (notice appears on the top-right corner) so I just run 'sudo dnf
> update' — it works fine.

There is also 'sudo flatpak update'. 'sudo dnf upgrade' doesn't catch
those. I may have a newer kernel ready to go but I haven't rebooted for a
month. I'm running the KDE spin so the notice is on the toolbar.

On 2024-03-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:12:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm typing
>> this on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main desktop
>> upstairs using No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says when I have
>> updates (notice appears on the top-right corner) so I just run 'sudo dnf
>> update' — it works fine.
>
> There is also 'sudo flatpak update'. 'sudo dnf upgrade' doesn't catch
> those. I may have a newer kernel ready to go but I haven't rebooted for a
> month. I'm running the KDE spin so the notice is on the toolbar.

I had the notice on the panel also, but I didn't like it there, so I got rid
of it. I didn't know about the flatpak update command, so I guess I need to
run that as well tonight.

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On 2024-03-14, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-03-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:12:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm typing
>>> this on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main desktop
>>> upstairs using No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says when I have
>>> updates (notice appears on the top-right corner) so I just run 'sudo dnf
>>> update' — it works fine.
>>
>> There is also 'sudo flatpak update'. 'sudo dnf upgrade' doesn't catch
>> those. I may have a newer kernel ready to go but I haven't rebooted for a
>> month. I'm running the KDE spin so the notice is on the toolbar.
>
> I had the notice on the panel also, but I didn't like it there, so I got rid
> of it. I didn't know about the flatpak update command, so I guess I need to
> run that as well tonight.

Now up to 6.7.9-200. No flatpak apps installed on this computer, though
flatpak, itself, is installed.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:32:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote in <usu5mn$1f5es$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-03-14, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:12:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm
>>>> typing this on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main
>>>> desktop upstairs using No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says
>>>> when I have updates (notice appears on the top-right corner) so I
>>>> just run 'sudo dnf update' — it works fine.
>>>
>>> There is also 'sudo flatpak update'. 'sudo dnf upgrade' doesn't catch
>>> those. I may have a newer kernel ready to go but I haven't rebooted
>>> for a month. I'm running the KDE spin so the notice is on the toolbar.
>>
>> I had the notice on the panel also, but I didn't like it there, so I
>> got rid of it. I didn't know about the flatpak update command, so I
>> guess I need to run that as well tonight.
>
> Now up to 6.7.9-200. No flatpak apps installed on this computer, though
> flatpak, itself, is installed.

It's only one version behind stable now:

$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.8.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Mar 11 11:08:43 PDT 2024 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

(I built it Monday morning, but only booted it this morning. Had other
changes to the system that I wanted to make sure weren't affected
by changing kernels.)

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:38:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote in <ut01op$1qbd1$2@dont-email.me>:

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:32:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
> wrote in <usu5mn$1f5es$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2024-03-14, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:12:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Fedora laptop is currently running on 6.7.7-200 kernel. (I'm
>>>>> typing this on the laptop, but currently I'm logged into my main
>>>>> desktop upstairs using No Machine.) When I login into Fedora it says
>>>>> when I have updates (notice appears on the top-right corner) so I
>>>>> just run 'sudo dnf update' — it works fine.
>>>>
>>>> There is also 'sudo flatpak update'. 'sudo dnf upgrade' doesn't
>>>> catch those. I may have a newer kernel ready to go but I haven't
>>>> rebooted for a month. I'm running the KDE spin so the notice is on
>>>> the toolbar.
>>>
>>> I had the notice on the panel also, but I didn't like it there, so I
>>> got rid of it. I didn't know about the flatpak update command, so I
>>> guess I need to run that as well tonight.
>>
>> Now up to 6.7.9-200. No flatpak apps installed on this computer, though
>> flatpak, itself, is installed.
>
> It's only one version behind stable now:
>
> $ uname -a Linux lm 6.8.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Mar 11 11:08:43 PDT
> 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> (I built it Monday morning, but only booted it this morning. Had other
> changes to the system that I wanted to make sure weren't affected by
> changing kernels.)

So for Linux, you can run "make help" to see different targets.

I tried:

localmodconfig - Update current config disabling modules not loaded

This is handy for avoiding compilation of a lot of the source tree. (For
example, I don't need Infiniband drivers...or indeed, most of the
drivers.)

I'd been using that make target for a few versions of my Linux
builds. Just tried to NAT my diskstation so I could update the time on
it, and got an error that there was no such module for ip NAT...woops.

Why the NAT? Linux sources are on the Synology diskstation. Thing
is, the time on the diskstation was so far out of sync that make(1) was
giving diagnostics about "clock skew" and similar. The Synology lives
on my 10G SAN, and isn't ordinarily connected to the net -- when I need
that, I use NAT on my workstation for the SAN. I'm going to have to leave
that on now so the clock stays synced.

Anyway, had to go back a few versions of Linux just to get NAT to work,
sync the clock, and now I'm building 6.8.0 with my original config, which
enables most modules.

Lesson learned: The shortcut worked for a while, but eventually
bit me.

ObCharter: try that on Windows!

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:32:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Now up to 6.7.9-200. No flatpak apps installed on this computer, though
> flatpak, itself, is installed.

The ones I installed are Brave, DBeaver, Vim, and the Arduino IDE. The
rest are related to FreeDesktop. I'm not sure about FreeDesktop's role in
life but it may be related to running the KDE spin.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:38:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote in <ut01op$1qbd1$2@dont-email.me>:

> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.8.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Mar 11 11:08:43 PDT
> 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.8.2 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Mar 27 22:48:22 PDT 2024 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

When you build a kernel, it's possible that the dkms for the NVidia driver
won't install the modules right away. I end up building them on the new
kernel.

Before rebooting to the new kernel:

0) Make sure you have the NVidia installer already downloaded from
https://nvidia.com . (Do this before booting your new kernel, unless
you like working with an X display where everything is the size of
a Picasso moon.)

After booting the new kernel:

1) Switch to a text vt (ctrl-alt-f1) and log in as "root".

2) Stop your display manager.
on Mint:
# service lightdm stop
This will also stop your X server.

3) Run the NVidia installer binary blob and follow the instructions.

4) If everything goes as planned, the new modules should be installed.
Activate by starting your display manager while simultaneously
logging-out:

# service lightdm start & exit

On Mint, this automatically switches to the X vt, where you can
log in as usual.

This is essentially the same procedure I had to go through when
I was running Fedora. If you try it, please let me know if it
worked or not.

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