Rocksolid Light

Welcome to RetroBBS

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Single tasking: Just Say No.


computers / comp.os.linux.advocacy / What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

SubjectAuthor
* What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?Lester Thorpe
+* Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?Physfitfreak
|`- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?DFS
+- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?Joel
+* Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?Tyrone
|`- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?Stéphane CARPENTIER
+- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?vallor
+- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?rbowman
`- Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?DFS

1
What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12613&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12613

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: lt@gnu.rocks (Lester Thorpe)
Subject: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 14
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.usenetexpress.com!not-for-mail
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:16:11 +0000
Nntp-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:16:11 +0000
X-Received-Bytes: 753
Organization: UsenetExpress - www.usenetexpress.com
X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetexpress.com
Message-Id: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
 by: Lester Thorpe - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:16 UTC

Do we drive a car? What language controls the ignition module
thereof?

C, C++, Ada, Python? Don't make me fucking laugh.

The code is machine language burned into an FGPA.

The same for military fighter jets. The same for nuclear power
plants. Etc., etc.

The core of modern technology is machine language.

C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<utnr1c$1o32m$8@solani.org>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12620&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12620

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Physfitfreak@gmail.com (Physfitfreak)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:10:19 -0500
Message-ID: <utnr1c$1o32m$8@solani.org>
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 00:10:20 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: solani.org;
logging-data="1838166"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:SkLkZrNosbHIfMQYqwivIw4Buxc=
X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240323-4, 3/23/2024), Outbound message
In-Reply-To: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
Content-Language: en-US
X-User-ID: eJwNysERACEIA8CWjBKEcs4I/ZdwfneWy+Ha5nRjs4ebxcKNfVs8FugULmqflOV4t76iClr9oGTgrIUY0Ez+UmMVag==
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
 by: Physfitfreak - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 00:10 UTC

On 3/23/2024 6:16 PM, Lester Thorpe wrote:
> C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.

And for those who seek entertainment. I enjoy _any_ programming language
until I hit a real barrier, then I go for another one after that.

--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<b3tuvild4ha7gci3se95drb0k4kjujiugh@4ax.com>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12621&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12621

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 20:32:31 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 36
Message-ID: <b3tuvild4ha7gci3se95drb0k4kjujiugh@4ax.com>
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="196afbe9d49a13171f7eaa5474711d3d";
logging-data="4155558"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/l7lUEf2+DmbR97xGVUO1FlKTEMsIpxC4="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Aeq7BXd7ekx17pAHec23i4iycUg=
OS: Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon, with Wine 9.0 for WinAPI
 by: Joel - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 00:32 UTC

Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote:

>Do we drive a car? What language controls the ignition module
>thereof?
>
>C, C++, Ada, Python? Don't make me fucking laugh.
>
>The code is machine language burned into an FGPA.
>
>The same for military fighter jets. The same for nuclear power
>plants. Etc., etc.
>
>The core of modern technology is machine language.
>
>C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.

You're not self-aware, though, you're in a cauldron of obsession, so
you spew this idiocy as if you're some "master", masturbator more
like.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<w5ednXD4IbcE5mL4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12622&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12622

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!69.80.99.23.MISMATCH!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:02:17 +0000
From: none@none.none (Tyrone)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
X-No-Archive: Yes
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Usenapp for MacOS
X-Usenapp: v1.27.2/l - Full License
Message-ID: <w5ednXD4IbcE5mL4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:02:17 +0000
Lines: 20
X-Trace: sv3-eiMsC3pjaNk1c4YkAkuMH7W+w+vcTZm1yJmVLilhrk82HqxZg7qhKt8VtNynJ3osnylSzaoA/rJa+rh!t1RZK4S0O+E86q9mDd+bHYpXFdEEKNc54RsZRCkzGRO7Cc9arL0vMNkxu1bI/QOlLXF+kzEyU6+9!m8is8LTc
X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html
X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
 by: Tyrone - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:02 UTC

On Mar 23, 2024 at 7:16:11 PM EDT, "Lester Thorpe" <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote:

> C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.

And yet you consistently present your little "Math Quizzes" in C.

Congratulations, you are a pussy. And a blow hard doofus kiddie.

A real programmer knows more than one language. A real programmer does not
proclaim any single language as the best for all situations.

If you were a carpenter, you would be proclaiming "A hammer is all I need.
Screwdrivers, levels, drills and chop saws are for pussies". Thus proving you
know nothing about carpentry.

A real programmer - just like a real carpenter - has more than 1 tool in the
toolbox AND he knows how to use all of them.

When you grow up, you will understand this. Until then, feel free to continue
proving that you know nothing about programming.

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<utnvla$3tl44$2@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12623&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12623

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:29:15 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <utnvla$3tl44$2@dont-email.me>
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:29:15 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ea3298e1d97e014bf2bb7981d9c80120";
logging-data="4117636"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19vJJOtQuTkePc39d5NF8H2"
User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; 285e616 gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan.git;
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:2miMCDW2cbjuSStjgyW6NA74yfg=
X-Face: \}2`P"_@pS86<'EM:'b.Ml}8IuMK"pV"?FReF$'c.S%u9<Q#U*4QO)$l81M`{Q/n
XL'`91kd%N::LG:=*\35JS0prp\VJN^<s"b#bff@fA7]5lJA.jn,x_d%Md$,{.EZ
 by: vallor - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 01:29 UTC

On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:16:11 +0000, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote in
<17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> Do we drive a car? What language controls the ignition module thereof?
>
> C, C++, Ada, Python? Don't make me fucking laugh.
>
> The code is machine language burned into an FGPA.

Maybe in your 1990 Toyota Camry, but modern cars often
have software that can be updated, both for the engine
control module as well as the navigation system.

Indeed, our Subaru Ascent's nav system has a section
in the menus for reading license disclaimers, and
includes a copy of the LGPL license.

> The same for military fighter jets.

Some have software written in Ada.

I've heard sometimes the software is written in other
languages, then translated into Ada.

The GNU Ada implementation is called "GNATS", and the FSF's
stewardship of Ada has been instrumental in its development
for gov't applications.

--
-v

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<65ffa171$0$343881$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12628&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12628

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr3.iad1.usenetexpress.com!198.186.190.30.MISMATCH!news-out.netnews.com!news.alt.net!us1.netnews.com!eu1.netnews.com!not-for-mail
X-Trace: DXC=<@0O;F;U__G]2f>5GVFLaGHWonT5<]0TMQ;nb^V>PUfF5[gZBW6J?LLZHjmnLVPdBMfi[BJd_mchE0Aem@>H[5UGWjB\<Me8\AG@GM\IYO6WZD>Oa:X5b?f8H
X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:43:46 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows)
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <utnr1c$1o32m$8@solani.org>
Content-Language: en-US
From: nospam@dfs.com (DFS)
In-Reply-To: <utnr1c$1o32m$8@solani.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <65ffa171$0$343881$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1
X-Trace: 1711251825 reader.netnews.com 343881 127.0.0.1:39301
 by: DFS - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:43 UTC

On 3/23/2024 8:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 3/23/2024 6:16 PM, Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.
>
>
> And for those who seek entertainment. I enjoy _any_ programming language
> until I hit a real barrier, then I go for another one after that.

https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<l6a0qlFtmmgU6@mid.individual.net>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12636&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12636

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: bowman@montana.com (rbowman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Date: 24 Mar 2024 06:51:01 GMT
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <l6a0qlFtmmgU6@mid.individual.net>
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net hxypXRaLKmtwnzC3CWm2RQ5Q5BrJm0KHHoFEXy3l84f/jetHTU
Cancel-Lock: sha1:/7cic8YyJC4rnxvDWJK7u21vhyo= sha256:Wn9CtG+ONd0HqhtQv8RwwxMM23Xuib/piZBu45M6PEo=
User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba)
 by: rbowman - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 06:51 UTC

On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:16:11 +0000, Lester Thorpe wrote:

> C, C++, Ada, Python? Don't make me fucking laugh.
>
> The code is machine language burned into an FGPA.

Which was probably developed using Verilog or VHDL...

http://www.asic.co.in/Index_files/verilogexamples.htm#link8

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<66000227$0$5287$426a74cc@news.free.fr>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12647&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12647

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-2.free.fr!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: sc@fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
<w5ednXD4IbcE5mL4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>
Organization: Mulots' Killer
User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: 24 Mar 2024 10:36:23 GMT
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <66000227$0$5287$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Mar 2024 11:36:23 CET
NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.201.248.7
X-Trace: 1711276583 news-2.free.fr 5287 78.201.248.7:38142
X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net
 by: Stéphane CARPENTIER - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:36 UTC

Le 24-03-2024, Tyrone <none@none.none> a écrit :
> On Mar 23, 2024 at 7:16:11 PM EDT, "Lester Thorpe" <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote:
>
>> C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.
>
> And yet you consistently present your little "Math Quizzes" in C.

To his discharge, he doesn't write the C code he provides. He only
copy/paste it.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?

<utphg0$e824$2@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=12675&group=comp.os.linux.advocacy#12675

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nospam@dfs.com (DFS)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Language is the Ignition Module of my Car?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 11:39:46 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <utphg0$e824$2@dont-email.me>
References: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:39:45 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5a3861fefbc5430b85b2f138d27cfc35";
logging-data="467012"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hTF2RME2bQXe2gtBiNf3c"
User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:4mhrK2TzIpyBmsTHQJPxvaf/PPI=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <17bf87de25408161$8$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
 by: DFS - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:39 UTC

On 3/23/2024 7:16 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:

> C, C++, Ada, Python? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Ironically, this is one of the few Feeb posts where you DON'T laugh
maniacally.

> The code is machine language burned into an FGPA.
>
> The same for military fighter jets. The same for nuclear power
> plants. Etc., etc.
>
> The core of modern technology is machine language.
>
> C, C++, Ada, Python, etc., are for high-level pussies.

asm kicks your a-s-s
C makes you pee
C-plus-plus shows you ain't tough
It's Ada you're afraida.
Python keeps Gentoo on.

Got it, numbnut? Programming isn't for you.

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.81
clearnet tor