From the «not happening here for sure» department:
Feed: The Register
Title: Microsoft: Many workers are stuck on old computers and should probably
upgrade
Author: Richard Speed
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:28:31 -0400
Link: https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/microsoft_device_decisions/

What was that, Brad Smith? You're at climate summit COP26 talking about
sustainability plans? You're breaking up... Going in a tunnel

Microsoft published a report[1] today that highlights the "problem" of users
sticking with ageing devices.…

Links:
[1]: https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/ (link)

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It's not just Microsoft. :( Bah to frequent upgrades!

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the «not happening here for sure» department:
> Feed: The Register
> Title: Microsoft: Many workers are stuck on old computers and should probably
> upgrade
> Author: Richard Speed
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:28:31 -0400
> Link: https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/microsoft_device_decisions/

> What was that, Brad Smith? You're at climate summit COP26 talking about
> sustainability plans? You're breaking up... Going in a tunnel

> Microsoft published a report[1] today that highlights the "problem" of users
> sticking with ageing devices.???

> Links:
> [1]: https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/ (link)

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Am Tue, 09 Nov 2021 04:54:04 -0600
schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):

> > https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
> > (link)

Why should they?
Because Microsoft wants that?
This was also a problem with XP computers not being able to run Vista
or 7, they got replaced because they were to slow for modern web. MS
also didn't manage to get rid of them for many years.

Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):
>
>> > https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
>> > (link)
>
> Why should they?
> Because Microsoft wants that?

According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.

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On 2021-11-09, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> Why should they?
>> Because Microsoft wants that?
>
> According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.

The penultimate paragraph shows it's both sides. I have trouble seeing
how a device given me at the beginning of the pandemic (so, 20 months
ago, more or less) would be stifling my productivity.

Microsoft's new trusted boot chip is going to put a lot of laptops on
the used market. Good for me - I typically buy older kit for a few
hundred bucks and it works astonishingly well for everything I do. I
look forward to buying some used equipment for pennies on the dollar.

Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>> Why should they?
>>> Because Microsoft wants that?
>>
>> According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.
>
> The penultimate paragraph shows it's both sides. I have trouble
> seeing how a device given me at the beginning of the pandemic (so, 20
> months ago, more or less) would be stifling my productivity.

It’s about devices they already had prior to switching to remote work,
so potentially a lot older than that.

> Microsoft's new trusted boot chip is going to put a lot of laptops on
> the used market. Good for me - I typically buy older kit for a few
> hundred bucks and it works astonishingly well for everything I do. I
> look forward to buying some used equipment for pennies on the dollar.

I think you mean the Windows 11 requirement for TPM 2.0. It’s not
“Microsoft’s chip”.

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Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):
>>
>>> > https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
>>> > (link)
>>
>> Why should they?
>> Because Microsoft wants that?
>
> According to the article, it's the employees that want upgrades.

The article is obvious marketing. The computers that businesses
would buy for those workers will usually come with a Windows
licence (even if that licence isn't used in preference for an
existing corporate licence), so the manufacturer will have paid
M$ for those licences. More computer sales, more licence sales,
more money to M$.

So I guess M$ have discovered that they're not getting as many
licence sales due to a lack of office computer upgrades over the
pandemic. Hence someone got the job of writing an article that
tries to convince employers that their workers want upgrades.

Possibly part of the same strategy that had them arbitrarily
lift the system requirements bar for W11.

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Am Tue, 9 Nov 2021 21:19:46 -0000 (UTC)
schrieb not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev):

> The article is obvious marketing. The computers that businesses
> would buy for those workers will usually come with a Windows
> licence (even if that licence isn't used in preference for an
> existing corporate licence), so the manufacturer will have paid
> M$ for those licences. More computer sales, more licence sales,
> more money to M$.

As I know, MS volume licenses need a base operating system on each
computer, that can be Windows Home or an older version, but you need a
normal Windows license too to meet the requirements. This is the reason
why businesses still buy computers with Windows included (even if that
is Win 7/10 Home/Starter etc.).

Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

> Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> I think you mean the Windows 11 requirement for TPM 2.0. It’s not
> “Microsoft’s chip”.

Yes, you are correct, my mistake. More like, "the chip that Win11 will
now require."