Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 20:13 this Tuesday (GMT):
> Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
> buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!

Yeah, the weather's getting warmer!
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On 3/19/2024 3:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
> Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
> buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!

10:06 pm, central time.

Better satellites do their work right cause traffic will be huge :)

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On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 17:00:57 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:

> On 3/19/2024 3:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
>> buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!
>
>
> 10:06 pm, central time.
>
> Better satellites do their work right cause traffic will be huge :)

At least that is less controversial than the Easter/Passover thing that
depends on full moons, the vernal equinox, and Mercury in retrograde or
something. This year the western Easter is March 31, the Orthodox is May
5, and Passover is April 22 to split the difference.

Cumulative errors are wonderful things.

Why are your emails checked by avast?

On 19.03.24 22:13, rbowman wrote:
> Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
> buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!

Yaaaay, it is indeed! Tbh, holidays based on natural phenomena like the
length of the day, are much, much more meaningful than religious ones
like Easter etc. (except, religions also know that and do their best to
keep their holidays relatively in line with the natural facts of life :-) ).

On 20.03.24 15:14, Yaxley Peaks wrote:
>
> Why are your emails checked by avast?

Does avast even check anything? Last time I saw it, it was just a
meaningless pile of shit.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 22:06:21 +0200, favask wrote:

> On 19.03.24 22:13, rbowman wrote:
>> Screw the astronomical quibbling beloved by physicists. I saw four
>> buttercups yesterday. It's Spring!
>
> Yaaaay, it is indeed! Tbh, holidays based on natural phenomena like the
> length of the day, are much, much more meaningful than religious ones
> like Easter etc. (except, religions also know that and do their best to
> keep their holidays relatively in line with the natural facts of life
> :-) ).

I always liked Easter. I'd mentally translate 'Christ is risen' to 'The
crocuses are risen.' Where I grew up there often was still snow on the
ground on Easter but the crocuses managed to resurrect themselves.

Apparently it’s a Zoroastrian (i.e. pre-Islamic) spring festival
<https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/3/21/celebrating-nowruz-ancient-festival-marks-arrival-of-spring-and-renewal>.

Always good to see ancient pagan traditions slip under the monotheist
radar ...

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 22:07:35 +0200, favask wrote:

> Does avast even check anything? Last time I saw it, it was just a
> meaningless pile of shit.

One might even say, a vast, meaningless pile of shit.

On 20 Mar 2024 01:28:34 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> This year the western Easter is March 31, the Orthodox is May
> 5, and Passover is April 22 to split the difference.
>
> Cumulative errors are wonderful things.

I think those traditions originated while the Europeans were still trying
to do all their arithmetic with Roman numerals.

On 21 Mar 2024 07:19:29 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> I always liked Easter.

Not surprising: most likely the biggest festival of the year, for
societies that lived by agriculture.

> I'd mentally translate 'Christ is risen' ...

He prophesied he would spend three days and three nights underground, only
he didn’t ...

> One might even say, a vast, meaningless pile of shit

HaHa! that was good

On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Always good to see ancient pagan traditions slip under the monotheist
> radar ...

It would be better if the fire in Kirkuk had a monotheist guest of honor
like 'The Wicker Man'.

On 2024-03-21, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> Apparently it’s a Zoroastrian (i.e. pre-Islamic) spring festival
><https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/3/21/celebrating-nowruz-ancient-festival-marks-arrival-of-spring-and-renewal>.
>
> Always good to see ancient pagan traditions slip under the monotheist
> radar ...

Except it's not.

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On 2024-03-21, Yaxley Peaks <yax@yaxley.in> wrote:
>> One might even say, a vast, meaningless pile of shit
>
> HaHa! that was good

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On 2024-03-21, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2024 01:28:34 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> This year the western Easter is March 31, the Orthodox is May
>> 5, and Passover is April 22 to split the difference.
>>
>> Cumulative errors are wonderful things.
>
> I think those traditions originated while the Europeans were still trying
> to do all their arithmetic with Roman numerals.

I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to understand
why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are different and
then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the origin of the
Gregorian Calendar. Repost when you have a clue.

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:18:13 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to
> understand why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are
> different and then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the
> origin of the Gregorian Calendar. Repost when you have a clue.

I'm still wondering how they get a March 31 to May 5 split. Christmas
isn't that far off because of the Julian calendar. iirc Russian Christmas
is January 6.

On 2024-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:18:13 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to
>> understand why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are
>> different and then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the
>> origin of the Gregorian Calendar. Repost when you have a clue.
>
> I'm still wondering how they get a March 31 to May 5 split. Christmas
> isn't that far off because of the Julian calendar. iirc Russian Christmas
> is January 6.

Christmas is on a set date, so it doesn't change depending on the full moon
after the spring equinox. I'm guessing that, since the Julian calendar
apparently lags behind the Gregorian calendar by about 13 days, the
difference is more pronounced when the full moon closely follows the spring
equinox. The Catholic Church celebrates Easter on the Sunday after the full
moon after the equinox (the 31st of March this year). Apparently the Jews
calculate Passover on their own calendar. The Orthodox celebrate Easter on
the Sunday after the full moon of their equinox but it also always follows
the Jewish Passover. This year the Passover ends on the 30th of April, so
the next Sunday for the Orthodox is May 5th.

Next year Passover is April 1st through 9th. The full moon after the equinox
is on the 13th of April. And, apparently that date is also the first full
after the equinox on the Julian Calendar. So both the Catholics and Orthodox
celebrate Easter on the 20th of April next year.

So there are three calendars involved. The Julian, Gregorian and Jewish
calendars.

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:18:13 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to
> understand why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are
> different and then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the
> origin of the Gregorian Calendar.

Ah, seems I made the poor religionist feel butthurt again. Diddums.

On 2024-03-22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:18:13 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to
>> understand why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are
>> different and then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the
>> origin of the Gregorian Calendar.
>
> Ah, seems I made the poor religionist feel butthurt again. Diddums.

And it appears the gullible and unskeptical skeptic revels in being too
stupid to know what he's talking about. Ignorance is NOT your friend.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:18:13 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I guess the height of "wit" these days is being too ignorant to
>> understand why Orthodox and Catholic Easter (and Christmas) dates are
>> different and then making fun of your own ignorance. Hint, look up the
>> origin of the Gregorian Calendar.
>
> Ah, seems I made the poor religionist feel butthurt again. Diddums.

Religion is like a football club. You will never convince a football fanatic
that their team is not worthy of their adoration. He will spout stats
at ya all day long. Some will even come to blows.

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On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 07:55:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Religion is like a football club. You will never convince a football
> fanatic that their team is not worthy of their adoration. He will spout
> stats at ya all day long. Some will even come to blows.

Believing in sky fairies is not the problem--let the multitude of sky
fairies proliferate, I say.

One form of trouble arises when one group says their sky fairy is the only
true sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false. That is not the path to
religious tolerance.

Le 20-03-2024, Yaxley Peaks <yax@yaxley.in> a écrit :
>
> Why are your emails checked by avast?

He doesn't know.

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On 3/23/2024 5:08 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 07:55:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Religion is like a football club. You will never convince a football
>> fanatic that their team is not worthy of their adoration. He will spout
>> stats at ya all day long. Some will even come to blows.
>
> Believing in sky fairies is not the problem--let the multitude of sky
> fairies proliferate, I say.
>
> One form of trouble arises when one group says their sky fairy is the only
> true sky fairy, all other sky fairies are false. That is not the path to
> religious tolerance.

Satan has religion! Ideologies. Adherents. Fanatics. Patriots. Scholars.
Government. Political parties. And military force.

Because dumb early human exist in vast numbers, and Satan effortlessly
fools them.

But Satan is also his own worst enemy :-)) That's where Modern Human
steps in to deal with him!

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