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* cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?servoloro
`* Re: cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?Marco Moock
 `* Re: cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?servoloro
  `* Re: cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?David W. Hodgins
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   `* Re: cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?servoloro
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    `* Re: cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?Carlos E.R.
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 by: servoloro - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 15:03 UTC

migrating from Mint Cinnamon 20 to 21 (fresh install) when deleting a
file from a network disk I get
cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?

I think that Nemo can't write to "trash"

fstab it's exactely the same in 20 (where all it's OK) and 21 (where I
get the error)
//192.168.1.51/public /mnt/XXX cifs
credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,nobrl,gid=MYSELF,uid=MYSELF,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,_netdev,noperm,vers=1.0,x-systemd.after=network-online.target
0 0
I've googled to not avail :
Any idea/help ?
THANKS :-)

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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 15:40 UTC

Am 07.04.2023 um 17:03:11 Uhr schrieb servoloro:

> migrating from Mint Cinnamon 20 to 21 (fresh install) when deleting a
> file from a network disk I get
> cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?
>
> I think that Nemo can't write to "trash"

Normally this happens when the file system has no trash or Linux
doesn't support the trash of the file system (IIRC this applies to
NTFS).

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 by: servoloro - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 16:12 UTC

Thanks for your attention.
The same disk, with *exactly* the same fstab entry is ok (files are
moved to trash on delete) when I boot LM 20.
When I boot into LM 21 the files are deleted with no option to move them
to trash.
The user is the same on both LM.

On 4/7/23 17:40, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 07.04.2023 um 17:03:11 Uhr schrieb servoloro:
>
>> migrating from Mint Cinnamon 20 to 21 (fresh install) when deleting a
>> file from a network disk I get
>> cannot move file to trash,do you want to delete immediately ?
>>
>> I think that Nemo can't write to "trash"
>
> Normally this happens when the file system has no trash or Linux
> doesn't support the trash of the file system (IIRC this applies to
> NTFS).
>

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:14 UTC

On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 12:12:51 -0400, servoloro <cb@ppp.it> wrote:

> Thanks for your attention.
> The same disk, with *exactly* the same fstab entry is ok (files are
> moved to trash on delete) when I boot LM 20.
> When I boot into LM 21 the files are deleted with no option to move them
> to trash.
> The user is the same on both LM.

Is gvfs-smb (or whatever LM calls it) installed?

Also compare the /etc/samba/smb.conf files from the two installs.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: servoloro - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:43 UTC

Thanks for your attention :-)
gvfs and gvfs-backends/-common/-daemons/-fuse/-libs are installed and
running:
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
..... 0:02 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.9 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
..... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.9 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
no other gfvs-* are present in synaptic

SMB.CONFs are identical, apart this comment (primary/classic from "diff -c")
! # primary domain controller', 'server role = classic backup domain
controller'
....
! # classic domain controller', 'server role = backup domain controller'
:-(
Il 07/04/23 19:14, David W. Hodgins ha scritto:
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 12:12:51 -0400, servoloro <cb@ppp.it> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your attention.
>> The same disk, with *exactly* the same fstab entry is ok (files are
>> moved to trash on delete) when I boot LM 20.
>> When I boot into LM 21 the files are deleted with no option to move them
>> to trash.
>> The user is the same on both LM.
>
> Is gvfs-smb (or whatever LM calls it) installed?
>
> Also compare the /etc/samba/smb.conf files from the two installs.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 18:49 UTC

On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:43:51 -0400, servoloro <cb@qwer.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your attention :-)
> gvfs and gvfs-backends/-common/-daemons/-fuse/-libs are installed and
> running:
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> .... 0:02 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.9 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
> .... 0:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.9 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
> no other gfvs-* are present in synaptic

In one of my Mageia 8 installs using gvfs-1.46.2-1.1.mga8.src.rpm ...
$ ll /usr/libexec/gvfs*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97240 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37368 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41832 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-admin*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 62736 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139128 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 113808 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-afp-browse*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37480 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-archive*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37280 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37272 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-cdda*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46000 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-computer*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 106352 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dav*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37408 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dnssd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 100944 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-ftp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46064 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-fuse*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 79728 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-google*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 71200 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-gphoto2*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46040 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-http*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 45664 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-localtest*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84744 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 79424 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37448 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-network*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 58976 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-nfs*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37432 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-recent*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 109480 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-sftp*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 54184 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-smb*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 71280 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-smb-browse*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 54840 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110136 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 105752 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97408 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 187896 Mar 26 2021 /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor*

Note the gvfsd-smb and gvfsd-smb-browse.

In the install where it's working does it have the gvfsd-smb files?

I don't normally use either samba or a ~/.trash directory, except when I'm
testing them. When I delete a file I expect it to be gone as I started with
systems that did not have trash recovery. My first ibm pc ran dos 1.00, and
before that I was working mostly on IBM mainframes.

I've learned to be very scareful of delete and format and keep good backups
myself. :-)

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: servoloro - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 19:34 UTC

Now it's night where I am, so I'll check the files tomorrow.
>My first ibm pc ran dos 1.00, and
>before that I was working mostly on IBM mainframes.
Anyway THANKS for your attention from a former assembler/cobol/cics
programmer,
and then a system engineer in VSE (yes VSE), VM, MVS and Z/OS ;-)

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 by: 26B.X919 - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 23:43 UTC

On 4/7/23 1:14 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 12:12:51 -0400, servoloro <cb@ppp.it> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your attention.
>> The same disk, with *exactly* the same fstab entry is ok (files are
>> moved to trash on delete) when I boot LM 20.
>> When I boot into LM 21 the files are deleted with no option to move them
>> to trash.
>> The user is the same on both LM.
>
> Is gvfs-smb (or whatever LM calls it) installed?
>
> Also compare the /etc/samba/smb.conf files from the two installs.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Sometimes helps to install 'cifs-utils'. Lots of distros
do NOT install all the SMB related utilities and such by
default and even installing Samba client/server may not
include everything you might need.

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 by: TJ - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 13:00 UTC

On 4/7/23 14:49, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> I don't normally use either samba or a ~/.trash directory, except when I'm
> testing them. When I delete a file I expect it to be gone as I started with
> systems that did not have trash recovery. My first ibm pc ran dos 1.00, and
> before that I was working mostly on IBM mainframes.
>
> I've learned to be very scareful of delete and format and keep good backups
> myself. 😄

Same here. I started with an HP 2116 minicomputer for the U.S. Army, and
my own first computer was an Atari 800. Neither had recoverable trash
that I recall, but then that Army service *was* 50 years ago.

TJ

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 by: servoloro - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 17:59 UTC

In Linux Mint 20 (where trash is active):
> stat .Trash-1000/
--------------------------------------------------------------
18:40:58 MYSELF@MYSELF XXX > stat .Trash-1000
File: .Trash-1000
Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
Device: 36h/54d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 1000/ MYSELF) Gid: ( 1000/
MYSELF)
Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
Birth: -

In Linux Mint 21 (where trash is not available):
> stat .Trash-1000/
--------------------------------------------------------------
File: .Trash-1000/
Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
Device: 31h/49d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: (65534/ nobody) Gid: (65534/ nogroup)
Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
Birth: -

The difference seems to be in owner:group
MYSELF/MYSELF nobody/nogroup
but the permissions are "777" !

Trying to change nobody to MYSELF ....
sudo chown -R MYSELF:MYSELF /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000

chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/c:\windows\temp\zzxc.tmp.trashinfo': No such
file or directory
chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf.trashinfo': No
such file or directory
chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf.trashinfo': No
such file or directory
chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/reference.trashinfo': No such file or directory
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info': No such file
or directory
chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf': No such
file or directory
chown: changing ownership of
'/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf': No such file
or directory
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files': No such file
or directory
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/expunged': No such
file or directory
chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000': No such file or
directory

and after this ... still NOBODY :-(
[yes: I've "escaped" "qouted" "hyphenated" and whatelse the folder name]

> stat /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/
File: /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/
Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
Device: 31h/49d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: (65534/ nobody) Gid: (65534/ nogroup)
Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
Birth: -

Thanks if someone is still willing to help me !
and anyway I wish an Happy Heaster to everybody :-)

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 19:14 UTC

On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:59:50 -0400, servoloro <cb@qwer.com> wrote:

>
> In Linux Mint 20 (where trash is active):
> > stat .Trash-1000/
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 18:40:58 MYSELF@MYSELF XXX > stat .Trash-1000
> File: .Trash-1000
> Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
> Device: 36h/54d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 1000/ MYSELF) Gid: ( 1000/
> MYSELF)
> Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
> Birth: -
>
> In Linux Mint 21 (where trash is not available):
> > stat .Trash-1000/
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> File: .Trash-1000/
> Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
> Device: 31h/49d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: (65534/ nobody) Gid: (65534/ nogroup)
> Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
> Birth: -
>
> The difference seems to be in owner:group
> MYSELF/MYSELF nobody/nogroup
> but the permissions are "777" !
>
> Trying to change nobody to MYSELF ....
> sudo chown -R MYSELF:MYSELF /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000
>
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/c:\windows\temp\zzxc.tmp.trashinfo': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf.trashinfo': No
> such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf.trashinfo': No
> such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/reference.trashinfo': No such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/expunged': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000': No such file or
> directory
>
> and after this ... still NOBODY :-(
> [yes: I've "escaped" "qouted" "hyphenated" and whatelse the folder name]
>
> > stat /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/
> File: /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/
> Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1048576 directory
> Device: 31h/49d Inode: 2013292575 Links: 5
> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: (65534/ nobody) Gid: (65534/ nogroup)
> Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
> Birth: -
>
> Thanks if someone is still willing to help me !
> and anyway I wish an Happy Heaster to everybody :-)

What's shown in /proc/self/mounts for /mnt in the working and non working
installs?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:11 UTC

On 2023-04-08 19:59, servoloro wrote:
>
> In Linux Mint 20 (where trash is active):
> > stat .Trash-1000/
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 18:40:58 MYSELF@MYSELF XXX > stat .Trash-1000
>   File: .Trash-1000
>   Size: 0             Blocks: 0          IO Block: 1048576 directory
> Device: 36h/54d    Inode: 2013292575  Links: 5
> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: ( 1000/      MYSELF)   Gid: ( 1000/ MYSELF)
> Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
>  Birth: -
>
> In Linux Mint 21 (where trash is not available):
> > stat .Trash-1000/
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>   File: .Trash-1000/
>   Size: 0             Blocks: 0          IO Block: 1048576 directory
> Device: 31h/49d    Inode: 2013292575  Links: 5
> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (65534/  nobody)   Gid: (65534/ nogroup)
> Access: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Modify: 2016-09-16 15:14:24.103808800 +0200
> Change: 2023-04-08 18:24:48.523247500 +0200
>  Birth: -
>
> The difference seems to be in owner:group
> MYSELF/MYSELF nobody/nogroup
> but the permissions are "777" !
>
> Trying to change nobody to MYSELF ....
> sudo chown -R MYSELF:MYSELF /mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000
>
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/c:\windows\temp\zzxc.tmp.trashinfo': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf.trashinfo': No
> such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf.trashinfo': No
> such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info/reference.trashinfo': No such file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/info': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios7_manuale_utente.pdf': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of
> '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files/iphone_ios_8.4user_guide.pdf': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/files': No such file
> or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000/expunged': No such
> file or directory
> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/XXX/.Trash-1000': No such file or
> directory
>
> and after this ... still NOBODY :-(
> [yes: I've "escaped" "qouted" "hyphenated" and whatelse the folder name]

I see above a mention of "C:"

Is perhaps the filesystem fat, exfat, or ntnfs?

Ah, I see in your fstab that it is cifs. You can not apply chown there.
Instead, change the fstab line.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: servoloro - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:50 UTC

Il 08/04/23 23:11, Carlos E.R. ha scritto:
> Is perhaps the filesystem fat, exfat, or ntnfs?
NTFS
> Ah, I see in your fstab that it is cifs. You can not apply chown there.
Oh yeah, stupid me :-(
> Instead, change the fstab line.
HOW do I have to chane it ?
now it's (in both LM20 and LM21)
//192.168.1.51/public /mnt/XXXX cifs
credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,nobrl,gid=MYSELF,uid=MYSELF,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,_netdev,noperm,vers=1.0,x-systemd.after=network-online.target
0 0

THANKS :-)

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:06 UTC

On 2023-04-12 08:50, servoloro wrote:
> Il 08/04/23 23:11, Carlos E.R. ha scritto:
>> Is perhaps the filesystem fat, exfat, or ntnfs?
> NTFS
>> Ah, I see in your fstab that it is cifs. You can not apply chown there.
> Oh yeah, stupid me :-(
>> Instead, change the fstab line.
> HOW do I have to chane it ?
> now it's (in both LM20 and LM21)
> //192.168.1.51/public    /mnt/XXXX cifs
> credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,nobrl,gid=MYSELF,uid=MYSELF,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,_netdev,noperm,vers=1.0,x-systemd.after=network-online.target 0 0

Change "MYSELF" to an actual user and group that does exist in the local
system.

grep MYSELF: /etc/passwd

grep MYSELF: /etc/group

>
> THANKS :-)
>
>

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: servoloro - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:29 UTC

Il 12/04/23 11:06, Carlos E.R. ha scritto:
> Change "MYSELF" to an actual user and group that does exist in the local
> system.
> grep MYSELF: /etc/passwd
> grep MYSELF: /etc/group

grep MYSELF: /etc/passwd
MYSELF:x:1000:1000:MYSELF,,,:/home/MYSELF:/bin/bash
grep MYSELF: /etc/group
MYSELF:x:1000:

:-(
THANKS anyway :-)

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:02 UTC

On 2023-04-12 11:29, servoloro wrote:
> Il 12/04/23 11:06, Carlos E.R. ha scritto:
>> Change "MYSELF" to an actual user and group that does exist in the
>> local system.
>> grep MYSELF: /etc/passwd
>> grep MYSELF: /etc/group
>
> grep MYSELF: /etc/passwd
> MYSELF:x:1000:1000:MYSELF,,,:/home/MYSELF:/bin/bash
> grep MYSELF: /etc/group
> MYSELF:x:1000:
>
> :-(
> THANKS anyway :-)
>

Try using the number (1000).

(just in case you forgot, you have to umount and mount to make the
change effective)

If that does nothing, then there must be something in the samba/cifs
config. If they are the same across the two systems, then there is
something different in the the defaults each version applies. But I know
very little about samba. Something about guest shares. You can post the
"/etc/samba/smb.conf" file here (from the server), maybe someone spots
the problem.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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