Hello Al,

On Sat Apr 09 2022 02:12:18, you wrote to Björn Wiberg:

Al> That's a confounding issue. g00r00's uplink (154/10) is listed in the
Al> seenbys as I get your message here. I'll include the kludges below.

While I may be in the seenbys, I'm not seeing any of the original messages
posted by Bjorn.

Can you (and/or others) by chance post me one or more of Bjorn's original
messages with kludges included, please? It may not help much but at least I can
take a look at the paths they are taking to get to systems other than myself.
Netmail would be fine as to not disrupt the echo.

All I can go off of right now is the original messages that were replied to,
which doesn't help since the messages I'm seeing are originating there and not
on Bjorn's system.

Your reply to him has arrived here via Tommi's system, but again, I don't have
the original that you replied to in my message base. Here must be how the
original message arrived to you, since you posted it in your message:

@SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 201/0 137 203/0 124 221/0 1 230/0
@SEEN-BY: 240/5832 280/464 5003 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219 341/234 396/45
@SEEN-BY: 2452/250 3634/24
@PATH: 201/137 0 203/0 280/464 153/757

And this is how I see your reply to that same message:

SEEN+BY: 120/616 123/10 129/215 134/100 153/105 757 7083 154/10 30 40 50 700
SEEN+BY: 203/0 218/840 220/90 221/6 226/18 227/201 229/310 664 280/464 301/1
SEEN+BY: 770/1 2320/105 3634/12
@PATH: 153/757 221/6 154/10

Another thing that baffles me is that I'm fairly certain I have multiple feeds
to this echo. So I should be getting the original from at least *one* of those
systems while the rest would be duped. Makes me wonder if someone else is
adding my system to the seenbys early on which would mark the message as a dupe
every time it arrives here. With that said, there is not a single message from
Bjorn in my dupe base either.

Regards,
Nick

.... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."

> Can you (and/or others) by chance post me one or more of Bjorn's original
> messages with kludges included, please? It may not help much but at least I
> can take a look at the paths they are taking to get to systems other than
> myself. Netmail would be fine as to not disrupt the echo.

Yes, I will do that shortly. I'll crash them directly to your node so you may
find them in your insecure inbound. Just a heads up.

>Another thing that baffles me is that I'm fairly certain I have multiple feeds
>to this echo. So I should be getting the original from at least *one* of those
> systems while the rest would be duped.

If your node is getting added to the seenbys early enough in the path you may
not see any dupes, but I don't know where it is getting added.

> Makes me wonder if someone else is adding my system to the seenbys early on
> which would mark the message as a dupe every time it arrives here. With that
> said, there is not a single message from Bjorn in my dupe base either.

If your node is in the seenbys then connected nodes would not send you any more
copies since it appears the message already went to your node.

Anyway, you should see a few netmail replies of messages from Bjorn shortly.

Hello Al,

On Sun Apr 10 2022 13:19:06, you wrote to me:

Al> If your node is in the seenbys then connected nodes would not send you
Al> any more copies since it appears the message already went to your
Al> node.

Exactly. Unfortunately, every response I've gotten so far seem to have the same
PATH. So, if Wilfred's system has my node number in the seenbys, then my node
is being put into the seenbys by 203/0.

Al> Anyway, you should see a few netmail replies of messages from Bjorn
Al> shortly.

Thank you, I've received them.

Regards,
Nick

.... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."