Kudos to Palemoon, the independent FOSS browser that continues
to be developed.

Now I can't access my bank with Palemoon (although I could until
recently) and I can't access some major commercial and news sites.

But who the fuck cares? Those fucking grubbers just want to drape
several simplistic paragraphs with a barrage of fucking ads. Fuck
them.

For browsing the non-commercial web Palemoon is unparalleled.

For the occasional jaunt into commercial hell, just copy and
paste into "links -g."

http://links.twibright.com/

With FOSS (and GNU/Linux) there is no need to be chained to
the Web 2/3 bullshit.

But all the phonies on C.O.L.A. only use their machines to access
Gmail and view Netflix.

What hypocritical degenerates.

Hail Linux!

Hail GNU and the FSF!

Hail Stallman!

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>But all the phonies on C.O.L.A. only use their machines to access
>Gmail and view Netflix.
>
>What hypocritical degenerates.

You're the phony, with your minimalist setup, trying to appear sleek
and in control, but in reality just obsessive and weird.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mar 6, 2024 at 4:58:40 PM EST, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

> Kudos to Palemoon, the independent FOSS browser that continues
> to be developed..

...by idiots who don't know what they are doing. This alleged "browser" still
can't show most websites correctly.

Just another FOSS LOSS.

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote at 23:37 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Mar 6, 2024 at 4:58:40 PM EST, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
>> Kudos to Palemoon, the independent FOSS browser that continues
>> to be developed..
>
> ..by idiots who don't know what they are doing. This alleged "browser" still
> can't show most websites correctly.
>
> Just another FOSS LOSS.

To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
used nowadays.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On Mar 6, 2024 at 9:20:03 PM EST, "candycanearter07"
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote at 23:37 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On Mar 6, 2024 at 4:58:40 PM EST, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>
>>> Kudos to Palemoon, the independent FOSS browser that continues
>>> to be developed..
>>
>> ..by idiots who don't know what they are doing. This alleged "browser" still
>> can't show most websites correctly.
>>
>> Just another FOSS LOSS.
>
> To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
> used nowadays.

To be fair, that is no excuse for this shit browser. These goofballs are
writing a browser that might have worked 20 years ago, but has no hope of
being useful today. "As of 2024, 98.8% of websites use JavaScript on the
client side for webpage behavior, often incorporating third-party libraries.
All major web browsers have a dedicated JavaScript engine to execute the code
on users' devices."

Which means Palemoon is both non standard and NOT a "major web browser".

Which means Feeb remains Totally Fucking Clueless by promoting this turd.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

>
> To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
> used nowadays.
>

That's the only issue. The web site, and not the browser,
is at fault.

I used to do my Kroger grocery shopping with Palemoon, but
Kroger changed their web site design and now Palemoon no
longer works. The same happened with on-line banking.

The commercial web is experiencing a sickening race to
the bottom.

But I seldom partake of the commercial web. Palemoon works
very well with the traditional informational web sites.

Any site that does not work with Palemoon is a site that
is not worth visiting.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
>> used nowadays.
>
>That's the only issue. The web site, and not the browser,
>is at fault.
>
>I used to do my Kroger grocery shopping with Palemoon, but
>Kroger changed their web site design and now Palemoon no
>longer works. The same happened with on-line banking.
>
>The commercial web is experiencing a sickening race to
>the bottom.
>
>But I seldom partake of the commercial web. Palemoon works
>very well with the traditional informational web sites.
>
>Any site that does not work with Palemoon is a site that
>is not worth visiting.

So, the browser isn't up to date, and it's the Web sites' fault for
expecting it to be. Great advocacy of Linux, dude. I'm sure a
million new users are ready to install it, thanks to you.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 06:04:53 -0500, Joel wrote:

>
> it's the Web sites' fault
>

How many times did you shit the bed this week?

H-E-E-E-E-E-Y! I asked how many times did you shit the bed?

I asked you a goddamned fucking civilized question and I expect
a goddamned fucking civilized answer.

Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote:

>> it's the Web sites' fault
>
>How many times did you shit the bed this week?
>
>H-E-E-E-E-E-Y! I asked how many times did you shit the bed?
>
>I asked you a goddamned fucking civilized question and I expect
>a goddamned fucking civilized answer.

You can expect to get your ass beat, if I ever see you in real life,
faggot.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>>
>> To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
>> used nowadays.
>>
>
> That's the only issue. The web site, and not the browser,
> is at fault.
>
> I used to do my Kroger grocery shopping with Palemoon, but
> Kroger changed their web site design and now Palemoon no
> longer works. The same happened with on-line banking.
>
> The commercial web is experiencing a sickening race to
> the bottom.

Heaven forbid that banks maintain their security protocols to keep your
money secure, even when that means deliberately dropping older insecure
browser versions to enforce discipline.

> But I seldom partake of the commercial web. Palemoon works
> very well with the traditional informational web sites.
>
> Any site that does not work with Palemoon is a site that
> is not worth visiting.

No wonder you’re always complaining, Feeb. You’ve become that 77yr old
uncle who only wants to use “old fashioned” stuff .. and then tries to get
sympathy when he bitches that it took an extra month to get his monthly
payment check by hardcopy forms and postal mail service.

BTW, Joe’s Ye Olde Electronics Repair service called: your 33K modem’s
been repaired & is ready for pickup. Bring cash.

-hh

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> To be fair, that could be more of an issue with how much JS is
>>> used nowadays.
>>
>> That's the only issue. The web site, and not the browser,
>> is at fault.
>>
>> I used to do my Kroger grocery shopping with Palemoon, but
>> Kroger changed their web site design and now Palemoon no
>> longer works. The same happened with on-line banking.
>>
>> The commercial web is experiencing a sickening race to
>> the bottom.
>
>Heaven forbid that banks maintain their security protocols to keep your
>money secure, even when that means deliberately dropping older insecure
>browser versions to enforce discipline.

Heheh, yup.

>> But I seldom partake of the commercial web. Palemoon works
>> very well with the traditional informational web sites.
>>
>> Any site that does not work with Palemoon is a site that
>> is not worth visiting.
>
>No wonder you’re always complaining, Feeb. You’ve become that 77yr old
>uncle who only wants to use “old fashioned” stuff .. and then tries to get
>sympathy when he bitches that it took an extra month to get his monthly
>payment check by hardcopy forms and postal mail service.
>
>BTW, Joe’s Ye Olde Electronics Repair service called: your 33K modem’s
>been repaired & is ready for pickup. Bring cash.

Exactly, Russell is drain bamaged enough to care, obsessively so,
about how many processes are running in the background, whether a Web
site works with some obscure browser, on and on. Just retarded.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:51:17 -0500, -hh wrote:

>
> Heaven forbid that banks maintain their security protocols to keep your
> money secure, even when that means deliberately dropping older insecure
> browser versions to enforce discipline.
>

Security protocols, as you call them, have nothing nothing whatsoever
to do with that javascript-infused presentation mish-mash that is intended
to enhance the user "experience."

I have built web sites that involved the secure exchange of information and
the crypto back end is the same as it has been for decades.

It's the javascript manipulation of the DOM and whatever else these script
monkeys do to dazzle the visitor that will break Palemoon.

Palemoon is a great effort that brings an alternative browser to a world
dominated almost entirely by Google. For this reason everyone should use
and support it.

When I browse I use only the Palemoon/"Links -g" combination. It is
amazing to experience "links -g" and see those pages load almost
instantaneously. Without javascipt the web returns to its glory years.

I repeat the obvious: the web and not Palemoon is the problem.

Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote:

>Palemoon is a great effort that brings an alternative browser to a world
>dominated almost entirely by Google. For this reason everyone should use
>and support it.

And by "everyone" you of course mean all the millions reading COLA in
2024 ...

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 3/7/2024 9:17 AM, Joel wrote:
> Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
>> Palemoon is a great effort that brings an alternative browser to a world
>> dominated almost entirely by Google. For this reason everyone should use
>> and support it.
>
>
> And by "everyone" you of course mean all the millions reading COLA in
> 2024 ...

I don't know why this place isn't teeming with Linux/technology addicts.

Almost everywhere else is censored. Why would you want to post where a
lame, politically correct moderator decides if your submission meets
some arbitrary "guidelines"?

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 3/7/2024 9:17 AM, Joel wrote:
>> Nuxxie <nuxxie@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>
>>> Palemoon is a great effort that brings an alternative browser to a world
>>> dominated almost entirely by Google. For this reason everyone should use
>>> and support it.
>>
>> And by "everyone" you of course mean all the millions reading COLA in
>> 2024 ...
>
>I don't know why this place isn't teeming with Linux/technology addicts.
>
>Almost everywhere else is censored. Why would you want to post where a
>lame, politically correct moderator decides if your submission meets
>some arbitrary "guidelines"?

It's true, COLA is the real warboard so to speak, those of us who
still populate it. I respect your place in it, even though I
personally can't make excuses for M$ anymore, their product is just
impossible to keep up with. Mint will run this box until it
disintegrates.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Nuxxie wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> When I browse I use only the Palemoon/"Links -g" combination. It is
> amazing to experience "links -g" and see those pages load almost
> instantaneously. Without javascipt the web returns to its glory years.

Heh, links2 -g comes up cover both screen of my dual-monitor set. :-D

--
FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #31
A: Chicken Teriyaki.
Q: What is the name of the world's oldest kamikaze pilot?

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't know why this place isn't teeming with Linux/technology addicts.
>>
>>Almost everywhere else is censored. Why would you want to post where a
>>lame, politically correct moderator decides if your submission meets
>>some arbitrary "guidelines"?

Alas, very few know about Usenet.

> It's true, COLA is the real warboard so to speak, those of us who
> still populate it. I respect your place in it, even though I
> personally can't make excuses for M$ anymore, their product is just
> impossible to keep up with. Mint will run this box until it
> disintegrates.

DFS will be humping Windows until he disintegrates.

--
Tomorrow will be cancelled due to lack of interest.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 09:21:05 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> But I seldom partake of the commercial web. Palemoon works very well
> with the traditional informational web sites.
>
> Any site that does not work with Palemoon is a site that is not worth
> visiting.

Any site that works with Palemoon would probably work with lynx too. Maybe
you can find a site using Flash or Java Applets that still are supported.
I can't help you. I used to have an applet that calculated rpm versus
speed for various Harleys but it's long gone.

"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

>DetroitsFinest:
>> I used to do my Kroger grocery shopping with Palemoon, but
>> Kroger changed their web site design and now Palemoon no
>> longer works. The same happened with on-line banking.
>
>I can't log into my bank using Firefox, not even in Safe mode.
>I browse Amazon using Firefox v90 (Developer Edition);
>but I have to switch to Edge to actually buy something.
>Walmart works fine on Firefox, my favorite browser.
>
>I like CoPilot ( Bing.COM/Search?q=CoPilot&ShowConv=1 );
>but it works best in the Edge browser; so I use that, then.

Maybe try actually running your computer updated, Relf.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 07:51:17 -0500, -hh wrote:

> No wonder you’re always complaining, Feeb. You’ve become that 77yr old
> uncle who only wants to use “old fashioned” stuff .. and then tries to
> get sympathy when he bitches that it took an extra month to get his
> monthly payment check by hardcopy forms and postal mail service.

Nothing wrong with old fashioned stuff. My 1911 still works fine.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:13:56 +0000, Nuxxie wrote:

> It's the javascript manipulation of the DOM and whatever else these
> script monkeys do to dazzle the visitor that will break Palemoon.

You don't have a clue how modern SPAs work, do you?

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:29:10 -0500, DFS wrote:

> I don't know why this place isn't teeming with Linux/technology addicts.
>
> Almost everywhere else is censored. Why would you want to post where a
> lame, politically correct moderator decides if your submission meets
> some arbitrary "guidelines"?

There isn't too much drift on r/linux but apparently there isn't much
moderation either.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1b927nx/
arch_linux_tattoo_first_tattoo/

That's real dedication.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:29:10 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> I don't know why this place isn't teeming with Linux/technology addicts.
>>
>> Almost everywhere else is censored. Why would you want to post where a
>> lame, politically correct moderator decides if your submission meets
>> some arbitrary "guidelines"?
>
> There isn't too much drift on r/linux but apparently there isn't much
> moderation either.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1b927nx/
> arch_linux_tattoo_first_tattoo/
>
> That's real dedication.

I tried reddit for awhile. Got tired of being directed to posts featuring
Brobdingnagian photos of twats.

And that stupid karma boolshit.

--
Cheer Up! Things are getting worse at a slower rate.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:12:26 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> I tried reddit for awhile. Got tired of being directed to posts
> featuring Brobdingnagian photos of twats.

I'm mostly on the tech subreddits and there aren't any twats. I sometimes
look at the duolingo one for laughs. I've been brushing up my Spanish so I
can welcome newcomers but Duo hasn't gotten around to conjugating chingar
yet.

The local one has its moments too. What's the SWAT team doing at Reserve
and Third? Where is the best dispensary? Oh, fuck, they're building
another dispensary!

The dope shops are getting out of hand. Capitalism 101 says most of them
must be starving. I'm not into the scene but I do have it on good
authority the real stoners are buying it from the same people they always
bought it from and not paying the 23% sales tax.

On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 10:35:34 -0800 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Walmart works fine on Firefox, my favorite browser.

Walmart has a rather low bar... It's my store of last resort and I go
there about once a year. The town is outdoorsy and most people are in
reasonably good shape; the ones that aren't are in Walmart buying Doritos
and COke.