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L4D was 'entirely broken' on release

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by: rms - Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:29 UTC

Re: L4D was 'entirely broken' on release

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From: spallshurgenson@gmail.com (Spalls Hurgenson)
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by: Spalls Hurgenson - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:59 UTC

On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 10:29:39 -0700, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>Fun article:
>https://www.pcgamer.com/left-4-deads-first-internal-playtest-was-so-disastrous-gabe-newell-asked-its-lead-why-dont-i-just-play-counter-strike-instead-then-made-me-watch-him-play-it/
>
Very few games are fun in their first playtests. Even if you have a
clear idea as to what the game is about - and "Left 4 Dead" didn't
have that - it takes a lot of iteration to find the right balance with
the gameplay. Plus, early playtests are usually missing all the
graphics and sounds that give a game its unique character.

But if one thing has become evident over the past few years, it's that
Valve is probably the reason the game was as fun as it was. Turtle
Rock Studios may have come up with the idea, but it was Valve's
experience (and financing) that made the game shine. Lacking Valve's
support, the original "Left 4 Dead" probably would have been awful...

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by: PW - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:58 UTC

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by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:34 UTC

On 11/26/23 21:58, PW wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 10:29:39 -0700, "rms"
> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>
>> Fun article:
>> https://www.pcgamer.com/left-4-deads-first-internal-playtest-was-so-disastrous-gabe-newell-asked-its-lead-why-dont-i-just-play-counter-strike-instead-then-made-me-watch-him-play-it/
>>
>> rms
>
> *--
>
> I read that!
>
> One of my favorite games ever!
>
> -pw

Same, L4D is quite good.
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user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject	Author
L4D was 'entirely broken' on release	rms
Re: L4D was 'entirely broken' on release	Spalls Hurgenson
Re: L4D was 'entirely broken' on release	PW
Re: L4D was 'entirely broken' on release	candycanearter07