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* No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Zach Z
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|  `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Nick Bush
|   `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Zach Z
|    `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)whis292
|     `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Rich Alderson
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|      `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Rich Alderson
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|          `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)kgxxx10@yahoo.com
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|           |`* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)kgxxx10@yahoo.com
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|           |     `* Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Dave Dyer
|           |      `- Re: No start adr (TOPS-10 V7.03 and 7.04)Rich Alderson
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 by: Dave Dyer - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:47 UTC

> It seems that some programs load instructions into registers for a loop.
> Those programs, and it might have been TECO, wouldn't run on that one.
>
The two programs that I recall ran in the ACs are Teco, which had a BLT loop to shuffle memory
that ran in the ACs. And the Rim10B loader which was used to boot load programs from paper
tape.

Also, fun fact, there were low end versions of PDP10 hardware that didn't have hardware accumulators;
programs in locations 0-15 ran from core memory. That might have been the case for all PDP-6's

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 by: Rich Alderson - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 02:30 UTC

Dave Dyer <davedyer829@gmail.com> writes:

>> It seems that some programs load instructions into registers for a loop.
>> Those programs, and it might have been TECO, wouldn't run on that one.

> The two programs that I recall ran in the ACs are Teco, which had a BLT loop
> to shuffle memory that ran in the ACs. And the Rim10B loader which was used
> to boot load programs from paper tape.

The RIM10B loader is marvel of hackery in 15 words.

> Also, fun fact, there were low end versions of PDP10 hardware that didn't
> have hardware accumulators; programs in locations 0-15 ran from core memory.
> That might have been the case for all PDP-6's

The "fast memory" accumulators were an option on the PDP-6 and the KA-10; I
have heard that very few systems were ordered without them, and most if not all
of those were upgraded later.

--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen

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