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* Go statement considered harmfulEli the Bearded
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From: *@eli.users.panix.com (Eli the Bearded)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Go statement considered harmful
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:40:41 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Eli the Bearded - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:40 UTC

This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
about in "Goto Considered Harmful".

Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful

https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/

It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
concurrency.

Elijah
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[*] with the same code example as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOW-MATIC

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From: hrouselle@jevedi.com (Hope Rouselle)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Go statement considered harmful
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:19:07 -0300
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 by: Hope Rouselle - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:19 UTC

Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

> This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
> has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
> about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
> Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
> Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
> anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
> about in "Goto Considered Harmful".
>
> Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful
>
> https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/
>
> It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
> concurrency.

Wow. I never realized you were a programmer professor-level, say. I
will read it and share with you my understanding of it. But gimme some
time.

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From: hrouselle@jevedi.com (Hope Rouselle)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Go statement considered harmful
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:53:35 -0300
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 by: Hope Rouselle - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:53 UTC

Hope Rouselle <hrouselle@jevedi.com> writes:

> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:
>
>> This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
>> has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
>> about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
>> Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
>> Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
>> anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
>> about in "Goto Considered Harmful".
>>
>> Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful
>>
>> https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/
>>
>> It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
>> concurrency.
>
> Wow. I never realized you were a programmer professor-level, say. I
> will read it and share with you my understanding of it. But gimme some
> time.

I printed it out yesterday, twice. Couldn't get the font larger. Paper
is now obsolete and, therefore, ignored? :-D

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From: hrouselle@jevedi.com (Hope Rouselle)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Go statement considered harmful
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 by: Hope Rouselle - Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:16 UTC

Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

> This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
> has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
> about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
> Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
> Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
> anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
> about in "Goto Considered Harmful".
>
> Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful
>
> https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/
>
> It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
> concurrency.

Really good read. Thank you. It hasn't been easy to find good reads
like that. I keep on reading good stuff, but usually they are papers
from decades ago.

Very nice summary of the meaning of these various concurrency primitives
out there in so many different languages. Also appreciated the
connection back to the sources --- Dijkstra /et alia/.

Why do I like it? I think it's because the author is concerned with
*clarity*, *generality*, guarantees. Sometimes it seems nobody cares
about these things.

What did I miss? I didn't see any mention to continuations.

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