Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
not work on v4.39. So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where
from?

Regards

Stephen

--

In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
> not work on v4.39. So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where
> from?

RISC OS 5 only I think it is. Same for Otter-browser and QupZilla.

--
Paul Stewart
Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
> not work on v4.39.

If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
slow to run Iris.

> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?

And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.

Bryan.

--
RISC OS User Group Of London - https://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/
RISC OS London Show - https://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/

In message <5bcfa59559.Paul@outlook.com>
Paul Stewart <narrowboat-paul@outlook.com> wrote:

>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
>> not work on v4.39. So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where
>> from?
>
>RISC OS 5 only I think it is. Same for Otter-browser and QupZilla.
>
>
>

Sad as I didn't know it only worked on RISC OS 5
--

In message <d801b19559.bryan@helpful-demon.co.uk>
Bryan Hogan <spam@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
>> not work on v4.39.
>
>If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
>slow to run Iris.
>
>> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?
>
>And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.
>
>Bryan.
>

Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.

Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
least I have supported development for the £49.00.

Regards

Stephen

--

In message <95cc0c9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <d801b19559.bryan@helpful-demon.co.uk>
> Bryan Hogan <spam@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
>> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
>>> not work on v4.39.
>>
>>If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
>>slow to run Iris.
>>
>>> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?
>>
>>And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.
>>
>>Bryan.
>>

> Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
> anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
> the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.

> Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
> information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
> least I have supported development for the £49.00.

Iris does work on RISC OS 5, Iris is much more modern web browser and
needs lots of memory and as fast a processor ideally as possible.

You could always get yourself a Raspberry Pi 4 which of course can run
RISC OS 5 and Iris.

Is there a special reason why you are still with RISC OS 4.39 ?

--
Chris Hughes

In article <ff43109659.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <95cc0c9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> > In message <d801b19559.bryan@helpful-demon.co.uk>
> > Bryan Hogan <spam@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

> >>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> >> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
> >>> not work on v4.39.
> >>
> >>If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
> >>slow to run Iris.
> >>
> >>> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?
> >>
> >>And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.
> >>
> >>Bryan.
> >>

> > Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
> > anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
> > the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.

> > Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
> > information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
> > least I have supported development for the £49.00.

> Iris does work on RISC OS 5, Iris is much more modern web browser and
> needs lots of memory and as fast a processor ideally as possible.

> You could always get yourself a Raspberry Pi 4 which of course can run
> RISC OS 5 and Iris.

> Is there a special reason why you are still with RISC OS 4.39 ?

I tried 5 on this RPC and didn't like it. Given an RPC is going to have
limitions anyway, 4.39 is OK with it.

> -

--
*Haunted French pancakes give me the crepes.*

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message <599619ad50dave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <ff43109659.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <95cc0c9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
>> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> > In message <d801b19559.bryan@helpful-demon.co.uk>
>> > Bryan Hogan <spam@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
>> >> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
>> >>> not work on v4.39.
>> >>
>> >>If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
>> >>slow to run Iris.
>> >>
>> >>> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?
>> >>
>> >>And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.
>> >>
>> >>Bryan.
>> >>
>
>> > Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
>> > anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
>> > the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.
>
>> > Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
>> > information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
>> > least I have supported development for the £49.00.
>
>> Iris does work on RISC OS 5, Iris is much more modern web browser and
>> needs lots of memory and as fast a processor ideally as possible.
>
>> You could always get yourself a Raspberry Pi 4 which of course can run
>> RISC OS 5 and Iris.
>
>> Is there a special reason why you are still with RISC OS 4.39 ?
>
>I tried 5 on this RPC and didn't like it. Given an RPC is going to have
>limitions anyway, 4.39 is OK with it.
>
>
>> -
>

I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
website shows various options that look appealing?
However I can't work out witch on their site would be the fastest
machine for me.
Any recommendations?

Stephen

--

In message <ff43109659.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <95cc0c9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> In message <d801b19559.bryan@helpful-demon.co.uk>
>> Bryan Hogan <spam@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
>>> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it does
>>>> not work on v4.39.
>>>
>>>If you are running 4.39 then you are using a machine that is too old and
>>>slow to run Iris.
>>>
>>>> So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if so where from?
>>>
>>>And RO5 would be a downgrade on that machine.
>>>
>>>Bryan.
>>>
>
>> Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
>> anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
>> the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.
>
>> Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
>> information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
>> least I have supported development for the £49.00.
>
>Iris does work on RISC OS 5, Iris is much more modern web browser and
>needs lots of memory and as fast a processor ideally as possible.
>
>You could always get yourself a Raspberry Pi 4 which of course can run
>RISC OS 5 and Iris.
>
>Is there a special reason why you are still with RISC OS 4.39 ?
>
>

I use Virtual Acorn on a laptop with 4.39 and not aware of another OS
working on it.
Does a pi offer a similar setup as I thought it was just a box that
allows RISC OS to work in it?

Stephen
--

In article <05940a9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <5bcfa59559.Paul@outlook.com>
> Paul Stewart <narrowboat-paul@outlook.com> wrote:

> >In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> > stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> >
> >> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it
> >> does not work on v4.39. So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if
> >> so where from?
> >
> >RISC OS 5 only I think it is. Same for Otter-browser and QupZilla.
> >
> >
> >

> Sad as I didn't know it only worked on RISC OS 5

Yes you can upgrade to RISC OS 5.2n.

I have an install of RPCEmu 0.9.4 on this PC, and that runs RISC OS 5.2n
(5.29) at a satisfactory speed.

I use it for testing stuff... :-(

Dave

For everyday RISC OS use, I use RISC OS 6.20 :-)

D.

--

Dave Triffid

In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
> website shows various options that look appealing? However I can't work
> out witch on their site would be the fastest machine for me. Any
> recommendations?

As far as I know, their 4té is currently the fastest. And if not, it's
still amazingly bloody fast. I bought one, so I speak from experience.

Kind regards,
Paul

--
http://www.riscos.sprie.nl

In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
> website shows various options that look appealing?
> However I can't work out witch on their site would be the fastest
> machine for me.
> Any recommendations?

https://www.riscosbits.co.uk/computers.htm

I have a FOURTress

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
> anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
> the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.

I don't think it's restricted to RISC OS 5 per se, but I believe it's
compiled with VFP which is only available on machines from the last 15 years
or so - and those machines all happen to require RISC OS 5.

> Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
> information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
> least I have supported development for the £49.00.

You could always ask Andrew from RComp, as I'm sure he would be
understanding.

Theo

In message <cPf*530Ay@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>> Thanks for letting me know it doesn't work on RISC OS 5, I could not see
>> anywhere on reading about Iris that it only worked on RISC OS 5 even on
>> the https://www.riscosdev.com/ website nor on PlingStore.
>
>I don't think it's restricted to RISC OS 5 per se, but I believe it's
>compiled with VFP which is only available on machines from the last 15 years
>or so - and those machines all happen to require RISC OS 5.
>
>> Disappointingly I have waisted money on a purchase due to lack of
>> information and unlikely to get a refund and if that is the case at
>> least I have supported development for the £49.00.
>
>You could always ask Andrew from RComp, as I'm sure he would be
>understanding.
>
>Theo

I've decided to purchase one of the pre mentioned machines after
Christmas, just need to decide, so I'll keep Iris as I'll need it on the
new machine.

--

In message <599632dfa6Paul@sprie.nl>
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

>In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
>> website shows various options that look appealing? However I can't work
>> out witch on their site would be the fastest machine for me. Any
>> recommendations?
>
>As far as I know, their 4té is currently the fastest. And if not, it's
>still amazingly bloody fast. I bought one, so I speak from experience.
>
>Kind regards,
>Paul
>

I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my mind
up.

--

In message <59962f8814dave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <05940a9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> In message <5bcfa59559.Paul@outlook.com>
>> Paul Stewart <narrowboat-paul@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> >In message <9962a39559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
>> > stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thought I'd download the new Iris browser for RISC OS but find it
>> >> does not work on v4.39. So can I simply upgrade to RISC OS 5 and if
>> >> so where from?
>> >
>> >RISC OS 5 only I think it is. Same for Otter-browser and QupZilla.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>> Sad as I didn't know it only worked on RISC OS 5
>
>Yes you can upgrade to RISC OS 5.2n.
>
>I have an install of RPCEmu 0.9.4 on this PC, and that runs RISC OS 5.2n
>(5.29) at a satisfactory speed.
>
>I use it for testing stuff... :-(
>
>Dave
>
>For everyday RISC OS use, I use RISC OS 6.20 :-)
>
>D.
>
I have been looking at two alternatives ;)

--

In message <599641a57aSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
>> website shows various options that look appealing?
>> However I can't work out witch on their site would be the fastest
>> machine for me.
>> Any recommendations?
>
>https://www.riscosbits.co.uk/computers.htm
>
>I have a FOURTress
>

Looks promising thanks.

--

On 05/12/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> I use Virtual Acorn on a laptop with 4.39 and not aware of another OS
> working on it.

In which case you don't need Iris, use the one of the many browsers
which run on your machine's native OS.

> Does a pi offer a similar setup as I thought it was just a box that
> allows RISC OS to work in it?

A Pi allows you to run RISC OS without having to spend 90% of your time
looking after the OS needed to run Virtual Acorn.

---druck

In message <72beb59659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

>In message <599632dfa6Paul@sprie.nl>
> Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
>
>>In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
>>> website shows various options that look appealing? However I can't work
>>> out witch on their site would be the fastest machine for me. Any
>>> recommendations?
>>
>>As far as I know, their 4té is currently the fastest. And if not, it's
>>still amazingly bloody fast. I bought one, so I speak from experience.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>Paul
>>
>
>I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my mind
>up.
>

Toss a coin.

--
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/ https://ko-fi.com/kevsoft
carpe cervisium
But it's " Thin red line of 'eroes " when the drums begin to roll

In message <59962f8814dave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> I have an install of RPCEmu 0.9.4 on this PC, and that runs RISC OS 5.2n
> (5.29) at a satisfactory speed.

Yes but it still won't run Iris because, as the name suggests, it is
emulating a RiscPC! At best that will be a StrongARM emulation, which will
lack VFP, Thumb, and probably other processor features that Iris needs.

As others have suggested, the 4te or FOURtress are the fastest RO systems
at the moment, with the latter being particularly good value. (And tiny!
Great if you're short of desk space)

Bryan.

--
RISC OS User Group Of London - https://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/
RISC OS London Show - https://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/

In article <72beb59659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <599632dfa6Paul@sprie.nl>
> Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

> >In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
> >> website shows various options that look appealing? However I can't work
> >> out witch on their site would be the fastest machine for me. Any
> >> recommendations?
> >
> >As far as I know, their 4té is currently the fastest. And if not, it's
> >still amazingly bloody fast. I bought one, so I speak from experience.
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Paul
> >

> I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my mind
> up.

Personally I went for the Fourtress because it was less expensive, better
specified and looked better

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

In article <599701a87cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart

> > I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my
> > mind up.

> Personally I went for the Fourtress because it was less expensive,
> better specified and looked better

Sorry this is nothing to do with Iris but I notice the Fourtress has 2
full sized HDMI ports - can the Raspberry Pi inside drive 2 separate
monitors (or one monitor and an overhead projector) under RISC OS?

Richard

In message <59971748a1basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

> In article <599701a87cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart

>>> I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my
>>> mind up.

>> Personally I went for the Fourtress because it was less expensive,
>> better specified and looked better

> Sorry this is nothing to do with Iris but I notice the Fourtress has 2
> full sized HDMI ports - can the Raspberry Pi inside drive 2 separate
> monitors (or one monitor and an overhead projector) under RISC OS?

I don't think so, at least not with RISC OS at this time.

--
Chris Hughes

In article <04731c9759.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59971748a1basura@invalid.addr.uk> Richard Ashbery
> <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

> > In article <599701a87cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart

> >>> I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make
> >>> my mind up.

> >> Personally I went for the Fourtress because it was less
> >> expensive, better specified and looked better

> > Sorry this is nothing to do with Iris but I notice the Fourtress
> > has 2 full sized HDMI ports - can the Raspberry Pi inside drive 2
> > separate monitors (or one monitor and an overhead projector)
> > under RISC OS?

> I don't think so, at least not with RISC OS at this time.

That's a shame but thanks for getting back Chris. It would save me
from having to use a separate splitter box.

Richard

In message <72beb59659.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <599632dfa6Paul@sprie.nl>
> Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

>>In article <21732f9659.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if Rcomp can help supply a suitable computer as their
>>> website shows various options that look appealing? However I can't work
>>> out witch on their site would be the fastest machine for me. Any
>>> recommendations?
>>
>>As far as I know, their 4té is currently the fastest. And if not, it's
>>still amazingly bloody fast. I bought one, so I speak from experience.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>Paul
>>

> I have been comparing the 4té and the FOURTress but can't make my mind
> up.

I don't have any experience with the 4té, but I can certainly recommend
the FOURTress, also I've found the support from RISCOSbits first class.

--
Rob Heaton