Are you seeing my posts from the 780?

The problem I have now is that I cannot see
any current posts on Seamonkey.

Also I need to create user account but there
doesn't seem to be a way to do so?

Robert

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Paul wrote:
> On 12/18/2023 11:31 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
>>
>> I had the password issue come up again in
>> the User Account and the Admin account
>> which makes me think they are both Admin
>> Accounts because User Accounts don't have
>> passwords but the account it was connected
>> to wasn't mine. I don't recognize it at all.
>> So I ended up resetting it and but for some
>> reason it wouldn't open up afterwards so I
>> closed it and opened the Admin Account
>> and was confronted by another password
>> problem but I was able to reset it.
>>
>> Hopefully that's the end of the password problem.
>>
>> Now as I see it I have to install Seamonkey
>> on the 780 Win 7 and the 8500 Win 7 and
>> Win 10 so all versions have it so we stay connected.
>>
>> We can go back and do the InControl and the
>> EICAR in string to test etc. after we establish
>> a USENET connection with Seamonkey. Do I
>> just click the link you gave for EICAR? or what?
>>
>> I have to setup single click on Win 10
>>
>> I just setup SeaMonkey and have trouble at the
>> end because I only selected 500 downloads but
>> I typed the current post in and created a message
>> but its not there. I didn't think to save the message.
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/ZWf0DK7c
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/dkNzzgMg Seamonkey main window
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/w1K3CGgt Newsgroup Account box
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/gwp9bvxq
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/FYRdgLrp
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/hz91Wd7x
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/T5fqR3rs Congratulations dialog
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/XXbTZKLR
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/FY86h01n Server setup finished
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/xcHJs2MJ Subscribe dialog
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/HVsWM131 download 500 headers
>>
>> I didn't think to take pics of the last steps, I
>> was so wrapped up in trying to get it to work,
>> but you can see I followed your instructions.
>>
>> I just closed Seamonkey because you told me
>> I never needed to logoff because it's activated
>> as soon as you open it. However I got this
>> as if it hadn't finished. I was going to restart the
>> 780 anyway because it had been on for awhile.
>> It's updating the 780 now and says the pc will
>> restart several times.
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/5HxVFZwF This is 22H2 coming in. Incontrol ??? Too late ???
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/cgCGFwkx Seamonkey setup wizard
>>
>> Robert
>
> You can unsubscribe the group, which deletes the downloads,
> and re-subscribe to the same group. Then, when it asks
> how many to download, you can select 2000 or more.
>
> Access to the server you are using, requires no account
> and with no account comes no password to enter either.
> I selected this server specifically to eliminate a few
> of the steps needed for an account-based server.
>
> Paul
>
>

I'm trying again on Sea Monkey and this is the
most current I could find. Also when I opened
Seamokey this time I remembered your previous
instructions and clicked the envelope bottom
left to open it. Much faster and easier.

but it still doesn't show your posts in hours/minutes,
only mine.

Robert

I was messing around on the 780 trying to delete macrium
because it keeps popping up for updates on the bogus
account that I didn't set up but it requires a pin number.
It says I can change it but I didn't want to mess things up
after we got this far and I would need your guidance.

Then I wanted to check the Firewall

https://postimg.cc/YjYtLxsM

When I did I got pop-ups for backups and Edge and I didn't
touch a thing and I didn't click on anything of the pop-ups.
I just closed them until I heard from you. I had to use the
Task Manager to close Edge.

https://postimg.cc/0bt59y4w

https://postimg.cc/y31BzMXj

https://postimg.cc/SXcpYSgV

https://postimg.cc/mthfNNdP

I definitely want this version of macrium off the 780 and
we can install a fresh copy.

Also, I have to get off the Admin Account on the 780. Did you
see my post with pics on my attempt to do so?

As I see it once we have the 780 Win10 Sea monkey running
then we'll do the 780 Win 7 and then the 8500 Win 7 and then the
8500 Win 10.

After that we should concentrate on downloading all the A/V
suite to Win 10 on both computers,

We can do all your tests once we get done with SeaMonkey
and have it up and running and we can check the systems out.

What do you think?
Robert

On 12/19/2023 1:44 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> The 780 has restarted and I had to enter the password again.
> It's lucky I reset it because this time it took it with no
> problem. I won't use the other account anymore but I would
> like to create a User Account and delete this other one and get
> off the Admin Account. Too much damage can happen there.
> I don't like having to enter my password every time I use it.
>
> Once we get SeaMonkey working on all the OS then we can
> turn to the other projects you have in mind. I can also import
> my bookmarks from the 8500 and import them to the 780
> Win10. Could I copy over the existing bookmarks on Win 7
> to update them as well as My Documents?
>
> Well all that for later after we get the computers able to post via
> Seamonkey. That's the top priority now. My head is already
> swimming with all I had to do and can hardly remember what I
> did and what I have to do.
>
> I'm confused,.. didn't I want to get 22H2? See what I mean?
> Sometimes I don't know what to do like with the 500 downloads.
>
> One thing, the 780 had the internal mic speaker on Win 7 and it
> was OK but on Win 10 it shows no internal mic?
>
> By the way,
> Merry Christmas
> Robert

If you cannot find the Control Panels in Windows 10, right-click the
Start icon, and in the Run box enter "control". When the control panel
starts running, go to its icon on the Taskbar and right click and
select "pin to taskbar". That will make it easier to find later.

while the Settings wheel likely has the user accounts, the Control Panel
has User Accounts too. Select "Manage another account" to see what
accounts are on the machine.

If a refurb was refurbished by JoySystems, there would be no foreign user
accounts on it. You would be defining the first and only account,
on booting the machine the first time.

If you're buying the machine from a smaller operation (like the computer
store downtown that does refurbs right in the shop), then those are likely
to have a shop owner account or similar.

Since I got a Win7 Refurbisher DVD with mine, I could reinstall with it.
But as near as I could determine by studying it, the media is very similar
to a Retail DVD. At least in the case of Windows 7, I could reinstall
and remove the shop version of OS and start from scratch.

The difference on Win10, is the license is stored in the cloud. If you got
a Win7 machine, there would be a license key. Microsoft does not provide a
COA sticker in the refurbisher kit, but you can use MAgical Jelly Bean
or Nirsoft Produkey, to obtain the license key. Now that the Free Upgrade is
over with, the Win7 license key doesn't have as much long-term value as it
once did. Once the Win10 disk has been prepared once, the Win7 key is unlikely
to be used again on the machine. (Except if you were installing Win7 clean
o the machine for some reason.)

If you had "prepared a Win10 disk" using a brand new disk drive, a couple years
ago, how did that MSA account get on that disk ??? Did you install Win10-over-Win7
and pick up that account from the original Win7 Refurbisher hard drive ?

I could understand if you bought the machine and it came with Win10, then
a foreign account could be in there.

You have to keep at least one administrator or administrator-group account
on there, in order to not lose control. As long as one of your accounts
has administrator, then you should be able to remove the foreign account.

*******

At one time, you could have a password defined, and set up the machine so
that entering the password was not necessary at startup. But the latest
versions of Windows 10 removed that, and either a password or a PIN is required.
There is a prompt that comes up every three days, and among the "few things to setup"
in the dialog, will be a request to set up a PIN.

It used to be " control userpasswords2 " that provided the dialog for passwordless login.
But any subsequent attempts to use the account for authentication, would still require
a password. Only an "empty" password allows easier operation, and the "empty" password
idea may not work with File Sharing.

As a general principle, once the OS removes an "easy" option, it isn't coming back.

*******

You know how to work the Bookmark interface now, and if you want to copy over your
Documents, I don't see why that would fail to work. If the machine is dirty, then
you would not want to copy the materials into the foreign account home directory
(which you may soon be removing).

Just don't lose the administrator capability. The hacks now for hacking into the
W10 setup, are more limited than in the past. If Microsoft wanted to make a concerted
effort, they could close all of them. When a password is in the Cloud, the chances of
cracking it are very low. Local accounts, where the password string is on the disk,
Kali can attempt to crack those. The only problem I had with that, is I could not
get the video card to assist in cracking. The dialog said it would take 12 years or so,
to crack the password (I wasn't using a dictionary attack, because my dictionary
wasn't good enough, it was only 8 GB). Replacing a password, is easier than cracking
a password. you can replace a user password, as administrator, but what replaces
an administrator password ?

*******

It could be a driver problem that is causing the microphone issue. I don't
know anything about the hardware. Some OEM machines, have a 2 watt analog power amp
for the speakers, but are otherwise more or less bog standard. And the powered output
on those machines, did not require a custom driver.

Paul