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Subject: Re: Computer hanging up
From: magineer02@yahoo.com (Robert in CA)
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 by: Robert in CA - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 06:41 UTC

Wow 1.1 !! I image it does take awhile!
The 780 shouldn't be all that bad because as I say
it just has the bare basics. There's no data on it at all.

I ran the Avast Smart scan and everything was
OK till the end and it gave me this:

https://postimg.cc/mtT14z43

Is this another way of their trying to get me to buy premium?
I'm always leery of these kind of fix-all's. They end up causing
more damage than good. Also, I'm not sure I want Avast to be
messy around with my registry or programs etc. So I elected to
skip it and then got this:

https://postimg.cc/WDqh80mV

In this day and age just about everyone is exposed online one
way or another.

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

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Wow 1.1 !! I image it does take awhile!
The 780 shouldn't be all that bad because as I say
it just has the bare basics. There's no data on it at all.

I ran the Avast Smart scan and everything was
OK till the end and it gave me this:

https://postimg.cc/9wPhQQGs

Is this another way of their trying to get me to buy premium?
I'm always leery of these kind of fix-all's. They end up causing
more damage than good. Also, I'm not sure I want Avast to be
messy around with my registry or programs etc. So I elected to
skip it and then got this:

https://postimg.cc/HrrTQdH8

In this day and age just about everyone is exposed online one
way or another.

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

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 by: Paul - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 06:53 UTC

On 11/20/2021 1:41 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
> Wow 1.1 !! I image it does take awhile!
>
> The 780 shouldn't be all that bad because as I say
> it just has the bare basics. There's no data on it at all.
>
> I ran the Avast Smart scan and everything was
> OK till the end and it gave me this:
>
> https://postimg.cc/mtT14z43
>
> Is this another way of their trying to get me to buy premium?
> I'm always leery of these kind of fix-all's. They end up causing
> more damage than good. Also, I'm not sure I want Avast to be
> messy around with my registry or programs etc. So I elected to
> skip it and then got this:
>
> https://postimg.cc/WDqh80mV
>
> In this day and age just about everyone is exposed online one
> way or another.
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
> Robert

Avast is rather relentless.

Anything to make a buck!

There is a merger underway, between "NortonLifeLock", at some point
part of "Symantec", and Avast. I didn't read far enough to determine
what the new company will be called. Maybe "Greedy Inc" ?

https://investor.nortonlifelock.com/About/Investors/press-releases/press-release-details/2021/NortonLifeLock-and-Avast-to-Merge-to-Lead-the-Transformation-of-Consumer-Cyber-Safety/default.aspx

Paul

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Subject: Re: Computer hanging up
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 by: Robert in CA - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 21:24 UTC

*L* that was pretty good and accurate. Our entire
gov't is corrupt and greedy, for decades.

I had Norton before and it invaded everything and
was harder than hell to remove. I think you helped
me to remove it. Now they are merging!

What are your thoughts about it all aside from them
being just greedy, what other free A/V is there that
you would recommend.? I've tried allot over the years'
but Avast has been the best so far which is why I keep
it along with malwarebytes and SuperAntipsyware,
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall.

I use to have Spybot, AVG, MacAfee,....

Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert

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Now the circles are gone from ebay. Strange they appeared
and now they're gone.

Robert

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 by: Paul - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 03:42 UTC

On 11/20/2021 10:32 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> Now the circles are gone from ebay. Strange they appeared
> and now they're gone.
>
> Robert
>

Since the code for the Ebay web page would change from day
to day, maybe someone noticed the mistake they made.

*******

As for Avast, I don't know how the two companies will
interact. Sometimes when corporations merge, they build
a "firewall" between operations. For example, when my
company acquired a pretty large company, at first, they
were going to connect their LAN to ours. Then, they decided
against that, and we never learned a blasted thing about
the new portion. It was like it wasn't even there.

Maybe with a bit of luck, just the press releases will come
from Norton, and the code will remain an Avast responsibility.

Paul

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> Maybe with a bit of luck, just the press releases will come
> from Norton, and the code will remain an Avast responsibility.
>
> Paul

Let's hope so!

Robert

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 by: Robert in CA - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 06:44 UTC

I just wanted to show you another curious feature that
started up a few weeks ago.

For news, I search around and look at all the News not
just one source but only on Fox News does it have this
weird animated running lion on the lower right that
appeared recently.

https://postimg.cc/qNbZcP7G

Robert

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 by: Paul - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 08:31 UTC

On 11/21/2021 1:44 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
> I just wanted to show you another curious feature that
> started up a few weeks ago.
>
> For news, I search around and look at all the News not
> just one source but only on Fox News does it have this
> weird animated running lion on the lower right that
> appeared recently.
>
> https://postimg.cc/qNbZcP7G
>
> Robert
>

No idea. Not showing in a search.

Paul

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 by: Robert in CA - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 22:12 UTC

I decided to check out the 780 external hd properties
to see how much space was available.

https://postimg.cc/DmBLFwz2

As I thought, there's allot of free space and the 2TB external
is sufficient.

I think it would be a good idea when we make the mrimgs
to also create a new v7 cd's for both the 8500 and the 780.

Robert

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I decided to take a look at the properties of the
external drive of the 780. It's almost all used up!

https://postimg.cc/DmBLFwz2

I looked for the mrimgs but this is all I could find
and its in the user account!

https://postimg.cc/1gT8j8Rt

I thought I put everything in the Admin account and
I know I've made more mrimgs since 2019 but it's not
showing them and something is eating up all the memory.
At any rate all previous mrimgs are tainted because they
are metal to metal.

It appears I'll have to get two 6TB hd and cases
for both the 8500 and 780 and start fresh after cloning
and create a folder on the Admin account for mrimgs
made with the cd.

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

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 by: Paul - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:02 UTC

On 11/21/2021 6:01 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I decided to take a look at the properties of the
> external drive of the 780. It's almost all used up!
>
> https://postimg.cc/DmBLFwz2
>
> I looked for the mrimgs but this is all I could find
> and its in the user account!
>
> https://postimg.cc/1gT8j8Rt
>
> I thought I put everything in the Admin account and
> I know I've made more mrimgs since 2019 but it's not
> showing them and something is eating up all the memory.
> At any rate all previous mrimgs are tainted because they
> are metal to metal.
>
> It appears I'll have to get two 6TB hd and cases
> for both the 8500 and 780 and start fresh after cloning
> and create a folder on the Admin account for mrimgs
> made with the cd.
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
> Robert

Don't panic.

Say the external drive is letter E:

1) Open File Explorer, click on E: so you are at
the top level.

2) In the search box (upper right), type

ext:mrimg <cr>

After you hit return (<cr>), all the files that have
..mrimg as a file extension, should show in the list.

Response may be slow. Even if the SearchIndexer is
properly programmed, the response is frequently a pig.
And occasionally, it is fast.

There are better file search tools, like Agent Ransack
from MythicSoft or Everything.exe from voidtools, but
some setup is required.

*******

Another way to view disk contents, is Sequoiaview.

The original site is gone.

This is the signature from my copy.

Name: Sequoia1_3XPInstall.exe
Size: 567003 bytes (553 KiB)
SHA1: C1DB10A0F7D36ADBC14B5A7A3F08FC35DB1BEE8B

And this is the signature of this one. A match.

https://matt.ucc.asn.au/mirror/Sequoia1_3XPInstall.exe

Name: Sequoia1_3XPInstall.exe
Size: 567003 bytes (553 KiB)
SHA1: C1DB10A0F7D36ADBC14B5A7A3F08FC35DB1BEE8B

That's a tool which shows you where all the "rotund"
files are on a disk partition. I was using that
just yesterday, while shrinking a C: drive from
70GB to 26GB. The tool spotted the hiberfile and
pagefile which needed work. When I backed up that
C: and compressed it, the final size was 10.0 GB.
That's the best I could do.

WIN10_AMD_250GB_724523-00-00.mrimg.7z 10.0GB

The "AMD" is the machine identifier.

To restore that, I have to decompress the file first.
While the technique saves space, more work is involved.
I just tested it, and it took 41 seconds to decompress.
If a slow drive was involved, it would go a lot slower.
When I work on really big files (my 1.3TB backups),
those take all day to decompress. I can't use any of my
little tricks on those.

WIN10_AMD_250GB_724523-00-00.mrimg 26.0GB

Occasionally, a drive letter needs the
System Volume Information cleaned. This is
in the "System Protection" part of sysdm.cpl.
If the backup partition is listed as ON, visit
the Configure and use the Delete button to clear E: .
It is more important to not delete C: restore points,
if you frequently need/use those. You have to
think about the Delete button, when dealing with C: ,
whereas cleaning E: should not be nearly as big
a deal.

I don't expect you need to clean E: that way, but
if the items don't show up in SequoiaView, then you
have to use your powers-of-guessing, that the missing
material is in System Volume Information.

Paul

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I don't know if I did this correctly,...

https://postimg.cc/8fmHg2Cj

https://postimg.cc/sMNJz939

https://postimg.cc/r06C0V0D

probably not and it doesn't say how
big the mrimgs are. I really didn't
know what I was doing and played it
by ear. I had to add the external hd
drive F: before I could do the search.
It only had E:

I didn't download Sequoiaview but maybe I
should. I assume I do it before I use the cd
and then just open via PE environment under
programs? I just tried to install it and it says
it doesn't have enough memory.

Robert

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 by: Paul - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 03:01 UTC

On 11/21/2021 8:50 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I don't know if I did this correctly,...
>
> https://postimg.cc/8fmHg2Cj
>
> https://postimg.cc/sMNJz939
>
> https://postimg.cc/r06C0V0D
>
>
> probably not and it doesn't say how
> big the mrimgs are. I really didn't
> know what I was doing and played it
> by ear. I had to add the external hd
> drive F: before I could do the search.
> It only had E:
>
> I didn't download Sequoiaview but maybe I
> should. I assume I do it before I use the cd
> and then just open via PE environment under
> programs? I just tried to install it and it says
> it doesn't have enough memory.
>
> Robert
>

You double-click the icon for F: and you can
look inside.

Note that this tool in the Rescue CD is not "File Explorer" from
Microsoft. It's the Macrium Explorer, and the navigation
widgets are not the same. To go upwards in the tree,
you use the up-arrow icon, closer to the menu line.

I don't really know if you can run Sequoiaview from WinPE.
When I've tried doing stuff like that, my experiments
told me that I needed to use the 32-bit WinPE setup,
rather than the 64-bit one. That seemed to help. But,
the executable you're trying to run, it helps if that
one is "portable". The less reference to the Registry,
the better.

So *some* Win32 stuff will run from WinPE and have
a graphical output for you. But not all of it.

I will see if later, I can cook up a working example.
I have to go out in a moment.

Paul

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I already double clicked the F: drive and looked inside and I could not
find the mrimgs. The must be in some folder though.

I tried to download Sequoiaview again on the 780 not the external but it
says there's no destination? Should I of said yes?

https://postimg.cc/rz3SmGbf

https://postimg.cc/0bS7JM1P

https://postimg.cc/BjcDMrvz

https://postimg.cc/62SG8wH8

https://postimg.cc/Sj2Mw2sC

I checked the properties of the 780 and as I thought it has tons of free space

https://postimg.cc/MMZY7Wbt

So it seems I have to go through and delete the mrimgs one by one on the external
hd but how do I do that? They aren't listed as the previous ones I showed you all
nice and neat although they must be and are hidden somewhere because they're there.
I knew I had done more mrimg backups.

In passing I had to restart my computer (3) times to get the SD/RS flash drive to
work. Sheesh!

Robert

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I went into the 780 again and this time I had problems selecting the cd
because it wouldn't respond to the arrow keys. So I had to reset it and
tried again.

I found the mrimgs, they aren't on any account but just sitting there!

https://postimg.cc/2qydcCK5

That's why I never saw them in either account. I wanted to show them to you first then I would like to create a folder in the Admin Account and move them all there one by one and the Mrimg folders in the User Account which has the mrimgs from 2019 or should I delete all of those mrimgs to clear space and then go through these mrimgs and delete as many as I can and then move them into the folder?

What do you think?
Robert

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 by: Paul - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:09 UTC

On 11/22/2021 12:34 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I went into the 780 again and this time I had problems selecting the cd
> because it wouldn't respond to the arrow keys. So I had to reset it and
> tried again.
>
> I found the mrimgs, they aren't on any account but just sitting there!
>
> https://postimg.cc/2qydcCK5
>
> That's why I never saw them in either account. I wanted to show them to you first then I would like to create a folder in the Admin Account and move them all there one by one and the Mrimg folders in the User Account which has the mrimgs from 2019 or should I delete all of those mrimgs to clear space and then go through these mrimgs and delete as many as I can and then move them into the folder?
>
> What do you think?
> Robert

There are ten of roughly 120GB each, which is 1200GB.

There must be a few more of them, hiding somewhere on G: .

If these are backups of the 780, presumably the 780 has not
had a lot of changes made to it. Maybe you can thin the herd
a bit.

I would question why the backups are that big. A basic OS
install, 20GB is plenty for the core portion of it. Sometimes
the pagefile or the hiberfile was made too large, and that
is wasting space in a backup. By my suspicion, is you were
backing up a backup... there was an MRING on the root
of the drive being backed up, and so you have copies
of some MRIMG in there. MRIMGs inside MSIMGS. That's
one thing an operator has to check for, before running
backups.

I've never tried to edit an MRIMG, and I don't know if
there is any way, post-backup, of fixing an issue
like that. That's why I do a few size checks before
doing a backup run. Like my example yesterday, where
a C: that said it was 70GB, well, it just needed a kick
in the pants to slim down. Then the backup went much faster.

*******

The SequoiaView did work here. I got it working.

But the tricky part is, you'd have to be running a hard
drive OS first, have installed it, then, you can copy
C:\Program Files\Sequoia folder to a USB stick. Boot
the Macrium Rescue CD 32-bit version, double click the
Sequoia.exe icon on the USB stick folder, and it runs.

But I like your idea better :-)

Not many applications run that way. The WinPE environment,
on purpose, was not intended to be "useful" in that way,
but, some stuff does work. And it's the 32-bit WinPE,
plus the 32-bit softwares, which are the best candidates.
The SequoiaView installs in the wrong folder, it's a
32-bit program that installs in the 64-bit folder,
but this does not harm its potential to run in WinPE.
Just bring the folder over where it can be accessed,
and it is portable-enough to use.

*******

The SequoiaView installer expects to be installed on the
current OS drive. The shell environment of each OS,
identifies where the %ProgramFiles% is located, and
that's how the installer knows what a good candidate is.
The trouble with the Macrium Rescue CD, is the folder
would be X:\Program Files rather than C:\Program Files.
X: is a RAM drive. I presume it is writeable, but I've never
tried to do what you attempted to do ("offline install").

And yes, it does install on the RAM Drive X:

When it asks where to install, change C: letter to X:

C:\Program Files\Sequoia

X:\Program Files\Sequoia

If it asks to create that folder, approve it and say "OK".

And then tick the box for it to "start" when the
installer is finished, and it will start. Launching it
from the installer, is *very* convenient. There won't
be a desktop icon, at a guess, and that's because PEExplorer
is not File Explorer, so the desktop functions are missing.

From the SequoiaView menu, select the letter of the drive
needing a scan. If it is scanning the wrong partition, just
click the "Cancel" on it, then menu down and select the
partition desired. In this case, the drive might be
C: or it might be G: . You have to decide which
partition to look at.

Holding the mouse over the largest square, will
give the pathname of the "fat" file. The right-click
and "Explore" menu option for the "fat" file does
not work, as expected. That's because the File Explorer
is missing from the Rescue CD and only the Macrium
PEExplorer is available. And they're not the same thing.

But still, since the path displayed is valid, you will then
know what directory a fat blob is hiding in, making it
easier to find them. A bit easier.

You will need to install to X: , each time the Macrium CD
is booted, because X: is volatile and when the
Macrium CD exits at shutdown, all context is lost.

I think you are very close to getting it to run :-)

Paul

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I'm on the 780

I downloaded SequoiaView and it immediately launched
a scan of the C: partition on its own but then nothing.

https://postimg.cc/0MgGGmXp

https://postimg.cc/hh1wjPhC

https://postimg.cc/wtN4d9SQ

I think for now I'll delete all the 2019 mrimgs and then go
through the remaining mrimgs.

I don't even want to think about mrimgs in mrimgs. I've
tried to be very careful.


Robert

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Why don't I use Agent Ransack, I already have it on both computers
and SequioaView doesn't seem to work. After scanning it just went to
blank screen and show nothing.

Robert

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 by: Paul - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 21:59 UTC

On 11/22/2021 3:14 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> Why don't I use Agent Ransack, I already have it on both computers
> and SequioaView doesn't seem to work. After scanning it just went to
> blank screen and show nothing.
>
> Robert
>

Remember, partition lettering in foreign environments
is a bit random at times. There's a rationale to it, but
still, the booting material can grab the wrong registry
to use as a reference.

Looking at your pictures, I know you've scanned the wrong
partition ("C:"), because, the total disk used and free
are "not that full disk we want to study".

It could be that letter G: (gee) is the partition
you should be scanning with SequoiaView. When you display
details of that one, most of the partition should be "full",
very little "free". And you'll know, if you've scanned the right
one, there will be around, at least, ten squares next to one
another, of quite respectable size. Then, you're looking for
the other, several, squares taking up the remaining
unaccounted space. Hold your mouse over those other squares,
to get the file path to their hiding spot.

You're close... very close...

Paul

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From: magineer02@yahoo.com (Robert in CA)
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 by: Robert in CA - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 22:21 UTC

I deleted all the 2019 mrimgs in the User Account then created a folder for
the mrimgs in the Admin Account (I accidentally named it '8500 mrimgs' so
I'll have to rename it next time I go in. ) I then went through the mrimgs
deleting the older ones so I have (3) mrimgs left in the folder.

https://postimg.cc/rKm0hkZh

https://postimg.cc/4KzmKNn3

SequoiaView scanned the C: all on it's own after downloading. I didn't select
anything. This was done when the external wasn't even connected. How
do I put it on a flash drive?

Robert

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 by: Paul - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:40 UTC

On 11/22/2021 5:21 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
> I deleted all the 2019 mrimgs in the User Account then created a folder for
> the mrimgs in the Admin Account (I accidentally named it '8500 mrimgs' so
> I'll have to rename it next time I go in. ) I then went through the mrimgs
> deleting the older ones so I have (3) mrimgs left in the folder.
>
> https://postimg.cc/rKm0hkZh
>
> https://postimg.cc/4KzmKNn3
>
> SequoiaView scanned the C: all on it's own after downloading. I didn't select
> anything. This was done when the external wasn't even connected. How
> do I put it on a flash drive?
>
> Robert

It depends on whether you installed SequoiaView in

X:\Program Files\Sequoia # path used, when installing while Macrium Rescue CD running

or

C:\Program Files\Sequoia # like, on your normal boot system

The idea is, you would copy the Sequoia folder
and contents, onto the USB stick. Then, when Macrium
is booted from a CD, you can plug in the USB stick,
navigate to the stick letter, like where you put it

T:\Sequoia

and double click the EXE in there to start it.

The pull-down menu in the program, when it is running,
allows you to select any working partition. You can "Cancel"
the current scan, go to the menu, change the drive letter,
and scan that drive letter. You don't have to accept the
"default" scanning it does. You can stop it, give it a
new drive letter, and off it goes, scanning your new choice.

SequoiaView is a pretty old program, but the people who wrote it have
moved on to other things (university students).

I still find it handy for doing quick surveys. And spotting
MRIMGs that need to be removed, is one of the things I use it for.

Paul

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From: magineer02@yahoo.com (Robert in CA)
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 by: Robert in CA - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 00:50 UTC

I installed SequoiaView on the 780 before I used the cd. I've coped it to the
USB stick and now am trying it on the 780 with the cd. I copy/pasted it in the
PE environment but it says it cannot open the file and when I tried to change
the target and start to partition 'G' it said it wasn't valid.

https://postimg.cc/NyD79wNR

https://postimg.cc/qhZswxHR

https://postimg.cc/grQy6sKt

https://postimg.cc/PCkmSq9m

What am I doing wrong?

I stupidly connected the external hd for the 8500 but then realized what I did
and logged off and disconnected it . SHessh However I better take a look after
I'm done just to make sure the 8500 loads OK although I didn't open it or anything.

Robert

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I checked the 8500 to make sure it loaded ok with the CD then went in and deleted
(3) more Mrimgs even though we'll be getting a new external hd and all those mrimgs
were metal to metal.

Robert

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 by: Paul - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 01:33 UTC

On 11/22/2021 7:50 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
>
> I installed SequoiaView on the 780 before I used the cd. I've coped it to the
> USB stick and now am trying it on the 780 with the cd. I copy/pasted it in the
> PE environment but it says it cannot open the file and when I tried to change
> the target and start to partition 'G' it said it wasn't valid.
>
> https://postimg.cc/NyD79wNR
>
> https://postimg.cc/qhZswxHR
>
> https://postimg.cc/grQy6sKt
>
> https://postimg.cc/PCkmSq9m
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> I stupidly connected the external hd for the 8500 but then realized what I did
> and logged off and disconnected it . SHessh However I better take a look after
> I'm done just to make sure the 8500 loads OK although I didn't open it or anything.
>
> Robert

This is what my folder on the USB stick looks like.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/Ss1hxszF/Sequoia-View-Copying.gif

Your copied folder, looks like it came from a Start Menu
of some sort. Rather than from Program Files.

Paul


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