Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/8/23 18:11, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> I recently installed Linux Mint on an old computer.
>
>That computer soon after than got pissed at by my cats and went dead.
>
>I installed Linux mint again on a newer Dell computer (with SSD), and
>from a month back have been using nothing but that one. Did various
>different stuff on it. I should say, now, I like it better than Windows
>10. There's a good chance I'll never go back to Windows again.
>
>I'm glad I didn't start with Gentoo. If I had gone that route, by now I
>had either quit Linux altogether, or gone nuts about it like Farley.
>
>The level at which I use my computers doesn't ... how should I say it,
>is not in harmony with that much detail work and expertise in an OS to
>gain more control over how I want to use my computer.
>
>So like Joel, I prefer, certainly for now, to use Mint and get it over
>with.
>
>Ahah! The word is "justify" :-) My use of computers doesn't justify the
>effort required in learning Gentoo.

Mint is great, you can't go wrong. Some people just want to be
"leet", so they have to make it harder to install or less pretty.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 4/22/24 05:56, Joel wrote:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/8/23 18:11, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>> I recently installed Linux Mint on an old computer.
>>
>> That computer soon after than got pissed at by my cats and went dead.
>>
>> I installed Linux mint again on a newer Dell computer (with SSD), and
>>from a month back have been using nothing but that one. Did various
>> different stuff on it. I should say, now, I like it better than Windows
>> 10. There's a good chance I'll never go back to Windows again.
>>
>> I'm glad I didn't start with Gentoo. If I had gone that route, by now I
>> had either quit Linux altogether, or gone nuts about it like Farley.
>>
>> The level at which I use my computers doesn't ... how should I say it,
>> is not in harmony with that much detail work and expertise in an OS to
>> gain more control over how I want to use my computer.
>>
>> So like Joel, I prefer, certainly for now, to use Mint and get it over
>> with.
>>
>> Ahah! The word is "justify" :-) My use of computers doesn't justify the
>> effort required in learning Gentoo.
>
>
> Mint is great, you can't go wrong. Some people just want to be
> "leet", so they have to make it harder to install or less pretty.
>

"Leet" is close, or may be exactly it. I use the word "freak" for it.

The slight advantages, and the fact that they're getting more and more
skilled in it as they learn, make them drift toward nerdiness about it.
I'm myself like that. If I happen to spend a good amount of time,
successfully, in doing a challenging task as I learn it and get better
and better at it, I become entangled in it for the long haul :) I become
a "freak". Hence, "Physfit freak" or "Clutterfreak" or "math or bio or
excel freak" etc.

It really doesn't matter what particular engagement it is that one is
in. It can be something worthy, like Gentoo, or Physics, or sailing,
etc, or it could be something close to nonsense. An example for the
latter case is Carpentier :) Hahhahhahh :-))

The guy is either an AI with all its shortcomings included, or if he
breathes, he is at least at times totally out of it. I'm not making just
idle talk. I _know_ there's something wrong with him.

Ok, now that I spent so many words about that let me finish it too: here
is a quote of what went between me and him a little while back:

Physfit: "I read a little bit about Gentoo's features. Looks like it
is a form of Linux that is ideal for only scientists."

Carpentier: "I don't know what that means. Any tool available on Gentoo
is available somewhere else."

!... Do you see it? A certain wire, or a few wires, are missing in him.
Ok, if it is not that obvious for you mortals to see that, then I'll
bring an analogy for it. Here is the analogy:

Physfit: "For this picnic that I'm participating in, I've made this
wonderful sandwich with just the right ingredients :) "

Carpentier: "I don't know what that means. Any ingredient in your
sandwich is available in any grocery store [so why not taking a grocery
store with you?]. "

Now you see it better, don't you :)

So Carpentier is a "nerd" that chose the silliest form of activity to be
drifted towards. That of, "Just jump at anyone who says stuff about what
you know, regardless of what it is that he says. Jump at him." That's
how silly, a task toward which one can get nerdy, can be.

Fuck, my time is worth more than wasing it on some "Carpentier".

Yes Mint is better than Windows 10. I have tried win10 (on this same
computer, which has SSD), and I did just about any use I've ever had
from a computer using the Mint part of the SSD during last month, and
Mint wins against Windows 10 in everything that I'm concerned with. The
only issue I have with it right now is that when I change the keyboard
layout to a specific form of Persian, the layout works for every app
except Telegram app. With formal Persian layout Telegram app has no
problem, but for informal one like the one I use (phonetic Persian) it
doesn't work. So I have to type everything in a text editor and paste it
into telegram. So far, this is the only issue.

On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning Gentoo.

That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).

See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
contemporary computing."

Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
details about that ludicrous claim. But just trust him.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning Gentoo.
>
>That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
>Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).
>
>See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
>contemporary computing."
>
>Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
>details about that ludicrous claim. But just trust him.

He's brain-damaged. He's gonna get cancer in his 60s, it's obvious.
Just a sad sack.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:55:52 -0400, DFS wrote:

> ... the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" ...

What’s the opposite of “virtuoso”? Is it “vicioso”?

On 4/22/24 20:09, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning Gentoo.
>>
>> That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
>> Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).
>>
>> See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
>> contemporary computing."
>>
>> Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
>> details about that ludicrous claim. But just trust him.
>
>
> He's brain-damaged. He's gonna get cancer in his 60s, it's obvious.
> Just a sad sack.
>

How do you know what age group he's in.

The point about him is that he possesses all of these virtues:

1- is enthusiastic
2- has great patience with others
3- is eager to learn
4- is eager to teach what he knows
5- is willing to undertake new ventures
6- has initiative
7- is capable of professional growth
8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
for it right now)
9- is capable of withstanding continues abuse from others and still
keeping himself fully functional, so this is more than just being
patient as I mentioned above
10- has hilarious attitude
11- has an outstanding grasp of the English language use
12- has the ability to keep himself within perspective of this forum
13- can navigate obstacles and yet does it gracefully
14- and he must be having inner peace I think.

This guy is no average individual. I wish I was halfway from where he
is. A third of that way, even. I just counted my own virtues among the
list above, and I have out of 14 features listed, only 6 of them
applicable to me. Less than half.

You guys can't match him. You guys can't even match his dick, to be
honest. You are _groupies_ of his dick. You never miss a single post he
makes here. Never! Because you can't afford it.

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:07:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:55:52 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> ... the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" ...
>
> What’s the opposite of “virtuoso”? Is it “vicioso”?

Tyro, or 'tiro' in the Latin spelling for FNG.

On 23 Apr 2024 05:25:15 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:07:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> What’s the opposite of “virtuoso”? Is it “vicioso”?
>
> Tyro, or 'tiro' in the Latin spelling for FNG.

I thought a “tyro” was more of a “novice”. If a “virtuoso” having ability
is “virtuous”, the opposite would be not so much the absence of ability,
but the presence of downright anti-ability: not being “virtuous”, but
“vicious”.

Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/22/24 20:09, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning Gentoo.
>>>
>>> That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
>>> Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).
>>>
>>> See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
>>> contemporary computing."
>>>
>>> Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
>>> details about that ludicrous claim. But just trust him.
>>
>> He's brain-damaged. He's gonna get cancer in his 60s, it's obvious.
>> Just a sad sack.
>
>How do you know what age group he's in.

He's probably roughly my age.

>The point about him is that he possesses all of these virtues:
>
>1- is enthusiastic
>2- has great patience with others
>3- is eager to learn
>4- is eager to teach what he knows
>5- is willing to undertake new ventures
>6- has initiative
>7- is capable of professional growth
>8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
>with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
>for it right now)
>9- is capable of withstanding continues abuse from others and still
>keeping himself fully functional, so this is more than just being
>patient as I mentioned above
>10- has hilarious attitude
>11- has an outstanding grasp of the English language use
>12- has the ability to keep himself within perspective of this forum
>13- can navigate obstacles and yet does it gracefully
>14- and he must be having inner peace I think.
>
>This guy is no average individual. I wish I was halfway from where he
>is. A third of that way, even. I just counted my own virtues among the
>list above, and I have out of 14 features listed, only 6 of them
>applicable to me. Less than half.
>
>You guys can't match him. You guys can't even match his dick, to be
>honest. You are _groupies_ of his dick. You never miss a single post he
>makes here. Never! Because you can't afford it.

He's not stupid, but he's a lunatic, and his computer sucks.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote at 04:18 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 4/22/24 20:09, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning Gentoo.
>>>
>>> That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
>>> Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).
>>>
>>> See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
>>> contemporary computing."
>>>
>>> Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
>>> details about that ludicrous claim. But just trust him.
>>
>>
>> He's brain-damaged. He's gonna get cancer in his 60s, it's obvious.
>> Just a sad sack.
>>
>
>
> How do you know what age group he's in.
>
> The point about him is that he possesses all of these virtues:
>
> 1- is enthusiastic
> 2- has great patience with others
> 3- is eager to learn
> 4- is eager to teach what he knows
> 5- is willing to undertake new ventures
> 6- has initiative
> 7- is capable of professional growth
> 8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
> with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
> for it right now)
> 9- is capable of withstanding continues abuse from others and still
> keeping himself fully functional, so this is more than just being
> patient as I mentioned above
> 10- has hilarious attitude
> 11- has an outstanding grasp of the English language use
> 12- has the ability to keep himself within perspective of this forum
> 13- can navigate obstacles and yet does it gracefully
> 14- and he must be having inner peace I think.
>
> This guy is no average individual. I wish I was halfway from where he
> is. A third of that way, even. I just counted my own virtues among the
> list above, and I have out of 14 features listed, only 6 of them
> applicable to me. Less than half.

Which ones?

> You guys can't match him. You guys can't even match his dick, to be
> honest. You are _groupies_ of his dick. You never miss a single post he
> makes here. Never! Because you can't afford it.

I just don't filter that much.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On 4/23/2024 12:18 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/22/24 20:09, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2024 9:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> My use of computers doesn't justify the effort required in learning
>>>> Gentoo.
>>>
>>> That's because you're not an IT Sooperman like Larry Pietraskiewicz (ie
>>> Feeb, Farley Flud, Diego Garcia, L Thorpe, Nuxxie and 50+ other nyms).
>>>
>>> See, according to Feeb, he's "heavily involved in virtually ALL AREAS of
>>> contemporary computing."
>>>
>>> Of course, the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" won't provide ANY
>>> details about that ludicrous claim.  But just trust him.
>>
>>
>> He's brain-damaged.  He's gonna get cancer in his 60s, it's obvious.
>> Just a sad sack.
>>
>
>
> How do you know what age group he's in.

He's not in his 60's. He's in his early 40's.

He posted here with his real name a few times: Larry A Piet

He lives near America's shithole: Detroit MI

> The point about him is that he possesses all of these virtues:
>
> 1- is enthusiastic
> 2- has great patience with others
> 3- is eager to learn
> 4- is eager to teach what he knows
> 5- is willing to undertake new ventures
> 6- has initiative
> 7- is capable of professional growth
> 8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
> with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
> for it right now)
> 9- is capable of withstanding continues abuse from others and still
> keeping himself fully functional, so this is more than just being
> patient as I mentioned above
> 10- has hilarious attitude
> 11- has an outstanding grasp of the English language use
> 12- has the ability to keep himself within perspective of this forum
> 13- can navigate obstacles and yet does it gracefully
> 14- and he must be having inner peace I think.
>
> This guy is no average individual. I wish I was halfway from where he
> is. A third of that way, even. I just counted my own virtues among the
> list above, and I have out of 14 features listed, only 6 of them
> applicable to me. Less than half.
>
> You guys can't match him. You guys can't even match his dick, to be
> honest. You are _groupies_ of his dick. You never miss a single post he
> makes here. Never! Because you can't afford it.

The amount of dick-riding displayed here is nauseating.

Why can't you see through that lying, lameass fraud?

On 4/22/2024 11:07 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:55:52 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> ... the self-proclaimed "computing virtuoso" ...
>
> What’s the opposite of “virtuoso”? Is it “vicioso”?

halfassioso

On 4/22/24 23:18, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
> with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
> for it right now)

I still cannot remember the word for it. It is a combination of
pragmatism, adaptability, and ingenuity, applied naturally and fast. I
need to refer to my ACOB blog to see what I used for it there. Only the
Persian word for it pops in my mind.

On 4/23/24 13:46, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/22/24 23:18, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> 8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
>> with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
>> for it right now)
>
>
> I still cannot remember the word for it. It is a combination of
> pragmatism, adaptability, and ingenuity, applied naturally and fast. I
> need to refer to my ACOB blog to see what I used for it there. Only the
> Persian word for it pops in my mind.
>
>
>
>

Fuck I found it. "Realistic" :-) Hahhahahh :) He is capable of being
realistic.

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:22:46 -0400, DFS wrote:

> He lives near America's shithole: Detroit MI

Hey, something good did come out of there.

Not the cars, but the music.

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:27:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Hey, something good did come out of there.
>
> Not the cars, but the music.

The depends on if you mean John Lee Hooker or Motown :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLgm-t-1veE

On 24 Apr 2024 02:54:56 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:27:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Hey, something good did come out of there.
>>
>> Not the cars, but the music.
>
> The depends on if you mean John Lee Hooker or Motown :)

Neither: Techno.

Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/23/24 13:46, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/22/24 23:18, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> 8- is capable of weighing options at his disposal and coming up fast
>>> with the most sensible combination of them (I don't remember the word
>>> for it right now)
>>
>>
>> I still cannot remember the word for it. It is a combination of
>> pragmatism, adaptability, and ingenuity, applied naturally and fast. I
>> need to refer to my ACOB blog to see what I used for it there. Only the
>> Persian word for it pops in my mind.
>
>
> Fuck I found it. "Realistic" :-) Hahhahahh :) He is capable of being
> realistic.

The word that comes to mind for me to describe Feeb is “deluded”.

Overall, overconfident in their abilities, which then come up short when
gaged against someone with actual mastery. Reminds me of an individual I
met this past week: loud, boisterous talker, but when it comes to walking
the walk, struggles.

I can post a specific example after I download the logs next week.

-hh

On 4/23/2024 6:27 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:22:46 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> He lives near America's shithole: Detroit MI
>
> Hey, something good did come out of there.
>
> Not the cars, but the music.

Some great songs for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425GpjTSlS4&list=PL-Ib9oOPR7OGzYatyE6xqtT8zMysTi0gZ

60s and 70s is my favorite music.

Also some great Detroit muscle cars from that time period:

Dodge Charger R/T Hemi
Plymouth Road Runner
Chevrolet Chevelle SS
Plymouth Hemi ‘Cuda
Chevrolet Corvette
Oldsmobile 442
Shelby Cobra
Pontiac GTO

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:05:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 24 Apr 2024 02:54:56 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:27:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, something good did come out of there.
>>>
>>> Not the cars, but the music.
>>
>> The depends on if you mean John Lee Hooker or Motown :)
>
> Neither: Techno.

Fingers in ears...

On 24 Apr 2024 16:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:05:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Neither: Techno.
>
> Fingers in ears...

The first time I heard Inner City, it was like disco had been buried in
vats underground, and matured into something even more wonderful.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:34:47 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Also some great Detroit muscle cars from that time period:

Have Americans come up with cars that can go around corners yet?

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:56:26 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 24 Apr 2024 16:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:05:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Neither: Techno.
>>
>> Fingers in ears...
>
> The first time I heard Inner City, it was like disco had been buried in
> vats underground, and matured into something even more wonderful.

Burying disco is a great idea; digging it up again isn't.

On 25 Apr 2024 02:37:22 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:56:26 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On 24 Apr 2024 16:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:05:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neither: Techno.
>>>
>>> Fingers in ears...
>>
>> The first time I heard Inner City, it was like disco had been buried in
>> vats underground, and matured into something even more wonderful.
>
> Burying disco is a great idea; digging it up again isn't.

Go listen to Donna Summer’s classic “I Feel Love”. It was called “disco”
at the time, but there was sown the seed of techno.

On 4/24/24 22:20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2024 02:37:22 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:56:26 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2024 16:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:05:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Neither: Techno.
>>>>
>>>> Fingers in ears...
>>>
>>> The first time I heard Inner City, it was like disco had been buried in
>>> vats underground, and matured into something even more wonderful.
>>
>> Burying disco is a great idea; digging it up again isn't.
>
> Go listen to Donna Summer’s classic “I Feel Love”. It was called “disco”
> at the time, but there was sown the seed of techno.

I think Nina Hagen's Zarah was first, not Donna Summers. Or could be
that I heard of Donna Summers' song a few years after it got out. I'm
not sure now.