To Perl, or not to Perl, that is the kvetching. -- Larry Wall in &lt;199801200310.TAA11670@wall.org&gt;

Posted: 7 Hours 4 Minutes ago by: Mike Griffiths

Not an answer to your question, but potentially to your end goal - have you tried just using [auto_execok osk.exe] ? Not extensively tested by any means but returns a suitable result on my current (64-bit Win 7) system.

Strange behaviour of shtmlview

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 8 Hours 40 Minutes ago by: Helmut Giese

Hello out there, I want to use shtmlview for showing little help texts during a series of configuration screens. To get familiar with markdown I devised the script below to get immediate feedback as I ventured along learning markdown. To m

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today (thread)

Posted: 14 Hours 29 Minutes ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Thanks for all the help. Here is the final quite complex solution: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Keyboard+widget?V Thanks, Harald

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today (thread)

Posted: 14 Hours 40 Minutes ago by: Christian Werner

Thank you very much, Gustaf and all for making this conference information available so lightning fast. Christian

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 15 Hours 49 Minutes ago by: gustafn

Dear all, The presentations are now on the conference website, including video and slides (on the program page). There are also photo impressions from the conference (on the starting page). https://openacs.org/conf2022/info/ It was ni

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 20 Hours 43 Minutes ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Dear all, thank you for all great propositions. Yes, tcl_platform and ::platform::identify was my first point. Unfortunately, they are identical for a 32bit wish running on 32 and 64 bit windows. But thank you for all the other propos

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 1 Day ago by: Dave

# For 32- vs. 64-bit # Technique from https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/david.wang/2006/03/27/howto-detect-process-bitness/ if { [string equal $env(PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE) "x86"] && ! [info exists env(PROCESSOR_ARCHITEW6432)] } { set b

Re:_FIGLIO_DI_PUTTANAZZA_#PIERSILVIOBERLUSCONI_(ANCO (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 1 Hour ago by: Ashok

twapi::wow64_process - https://twapi.magicsplat.com/v4.7/process.html#wow64_process On 7/5/2022 11:06 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 5 Hours ago by: ANDREA SIGNINI EROI

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Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 7 Hours ago by: et4

Opps, should be this on either system: %catch {registry get {HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node} {}} val 1 % set val unable to open key: The system cannot find the file specified. % %catch {registry get {HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTW

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen? (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 7 Hours ago by: et4

# 64 bit os % package require registry 1.3.4 % catch [registry get {HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node} {}] val 0 % set val % # 32 bit os % package require registry 1.3.3 % catch {registry get {HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE} WOW6432N

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen? (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 7 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

I'm not sure this answers the question Harald has. When you compile a 32 bit Tclsh and run it under Win64, tcl_platform still shows everything for 32 bit - or not? Harald wants to know if the 32bit binary runs on a native 32 bit Window

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen? keyboard ask.exe) (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 8 Hours ago by: Gerald Lester

Look at the contents of ::tcl_platform !!!!!

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 8 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

I take it that there isn't a program like 'uname -m' available under MS-Windows? That would be the goto command I would use under any flavor of Linux (also works on MacOSX!).

Re: find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 9 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

This is IMHO not guaranteed to exist. But you can look for the WOW64 folder. My Windows is not running currently, but IIRC then you look into C:\Windows (there is some %% magic thing for the correct path) and then you'll see if the WOW

find out if TLC is running on 64 bit Windows (to call on screen

Posted: 1 Day 9 Hours ago by: saitology9

Hello, Check out tcl_platform(wordSize). I believe it is 4 for 32-bit and higher for 64-bit platforms.

Posted: 1 Day 10 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Dear TCL'ers, how may I find out, if my 32 bit wish is running on a 64 or 32 bit Windows OS? What I found by tcl_platform and platform::identify is, that a 32 bit system is presented. Is there any trick ? TWAPI ? If "C:\Program File

Re:_FIGLIO_DI_PUTTANAZZA_#PIERSILVIOBERLUSCONI_(ANCO (thread)

Posted: 1 Day 10 Hours ago by: The Rickster

the educational solution you seem to be seeking is an all tcl\tk training solution which can be seen at www.verbaltransacrions.com. It leverages the simulation training package developed by Advertech, Ltd. It provides for the needs you hav

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Posted: 4 Days 10 Hours ago by: et4

Seems like an acceptable solution to me :) I mentioned VLC because it seems to be the most capable free-ware video player. And with the http interface, I've tinkered together a use for my old android phones, a vlc remote using androwish

Posted: 4 Days 10 Hours ago by: Westermeyer

#!/bin/sh # -*- tcl -*- # The next line is executed by /bin/sh, but not tcl \ exec tclsh "$0" ${1+"$@"} package require Tk button .b -text "Launch Video" -command playMovie button .c -text "Exit" -command exit proc playMovie {} {

Posted: 4 Days 14 Hours ago by: Westermeyer

Thanks very much for the suggestions, they're more than I was anticipating. I'm looking for a solution that is cross-platform and part of an educational package, so widely available. I'm not trained as a computer scientist, so I find th

Posted: 4 Days 18 Hours ago by: et4

Christian and Alexandru have excellent points. Being retired, I write boss-free dangerous code for my own personal pleasure. With that caveat clearly understood: Here's a tk example. The comments show how to get the VLC settings right.

Posted: 4 Days 19 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

The reason is that "playing videos" is a huge and complicated topic. The easiest way to implement this in a cross-platform way would probably be ffmpeg. In addition to the technical issues, however, there is an enormous legal trap invo

Posted: 4 Days 20 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Tcl really lacks a ready to use solution for playing movies in an embeded way.

Posted: 4 Days 20 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Setting up VLC to accept http requests is rather complicated: Activate http, restart VLC, setup a password... As a personal solution no problem. As part of a public software, no go.

Posted: 4 Days 22 Hours ago by: Westermeyer

That''s a pretty interesting approach, using the portable version might mean a cross-platform solution - I'd be interested to see your code...

Posted: 5 Days 5 Hours ago by: et4

If you don't mind running an external program to handle the video, I would recommend the VLC media player. I've written a remote controller in tcl/tk for it that runs on windows but I'm sure you could also use linux. Many of the functio

Re:_FIGLIO_DI_PUTTANAZZA_#PIERSILVIOBERLUSCONI_(ANCO (thread)

Posted: 5 Days 14 Hours ago by: Westermeyer

This is great - thanks for the leads!

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Re: possible "regsub/regexp" bug (thread)

Posted: 6 Days 8 Hours ago by: Schelte

They're not. But I tend to change as little as possible from the original code to focus on the problem at hand. Why do you start a new thread, instead of following up in the existing one? Schelte.

Posted: 6 Days 10 Hours ago by: The Rickster

A snit player is documented in the WIKI. It uses mplayer. sample code follows employing version from www.mplayerhq.hu frame .tMPlayer.$f -class Mplayer -background yellow -container yes {*}$options set bOK [button .tMPlayer.bOK -tex

possible "regsub/regexp" bug

Posted: 6 Days 11 Hours ago by: clt.to.davebr

Why are the (?!\() bits necessary? regsub -all {([A-Z][a-z]+) $match {(?:\1)?} seems to work Dave B

Re: possible "regsub/regexp" bug (thread)

Posted: 6 Days 17 Hours ago by: Schelte

That's because you repeatedly reprocess the result of the previous substitution. The online regexp does the processing in one go. If you do the same with regsub, you get the requested result: regsub -all {(?!$)([A-Z][a-z]+)(?!$)} $

possible "regsub/regexp" bug

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today (thread)

Posted: 6 Days 19 Hours ago by: aotto1968

Hi, I have the following regexp: and I want to match into: using the code but the solution is: the online regexp is ok: mfg

Posted: 7 Days 7 Hours ago by: gustafn

Talks on June 30: https://learn.wu.ac.at/eurotcl2022/calendar/cal-item-view?cal_item_ida3703025 Talks on July 1: https://learn.wu.ac.at/eurotcl2022/calendar/cal-item-view?cal_item_ida3704587

Posted: 7 Days 10 Hours ago by: apn

To follow up on the above, here is an interactive session to play mp4 using cffi. This is of course very rudimentary, frail and probably not optimal cffi definitions. A real package for mpv will need considerable work to understand the

Re: Thank you, guys (thread)

Posted: 7 Days 11 Hours ago by: apn

You're welcome and it helps greatly to have detailed reports and follow up testing. /Ashok

Posted: 7 Days 11 Hours ago by: apn

There is an implementation somewhere on the wiki. Not sure how old or how complete. Also seems like something you could bind with either cffi or ffidl without too much effort. /Ashok

Posted: 7 Days 12 Hours ago by: Michael Soyka

You don't get zero because ($x*$x + $x*$x + $x*$x) is substantially larger in magnitude than x but both terms are represented by the same number of bits, 64. Add parentheses and you do get zero: expr {($x*$x + $x*$x + $x*$x) - ($x

Posted: 7 Days 14 Hours ago by: Yusuke Yamasaki

Yes. It's almost 30 times slower than [expr]. This package is an implementation of decimal floating point arithmetic. So, it's free from error caused by conversion from binary to decimal floating point number.

TDBC mysql stops working with mariadb-connector-c-3.2.7

Posted: 7 Days 17 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

| Thank you all. | I actually aware of those numerical issues. | But 1e-8 suprized me alot, because it's actually a large number in my opinion. | I wonder, if same operation in C would give better results. % cat t.c #include <stdio.h> int

Posted: 7 Days 18 Hours ago by: Georgios Petasis

Hi all, In my Fedora 35, TDBC mysql stops working (i.e. tclsh core dumps) with mariadb 3.2.7. Downgrading to 3.1.13 fixes the problem. But something has changed (tdbc mysql does load the mariadb 3.2.7 library). George

Posted: 7 Days 19 Hours ago by: Florian Murr

.... Sorry , I should have written "accuracy" instead of "precision"! Florian

Posted: 7 Days 19 Hours ago by: Florian Murr

Probably the most profound answers to Computing Errors are currently given by John L. Gustafson, who has 2015 written the book "The End of Error - Unum Computing". "Unum" stands for "universal number" and is a new alternative to the current

Posted: 7 Days 19 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Nice package. I'm afraid the performance will worsen much, as the computation is done many times and speed is important.

Posted: 7 Days 20 Hours ago by: Yusuke Yamasaki

package require Mpexpr set x -9408.8 puts [mpexpr {$x*$x + $x*$x + $x*$x - $x*$x - $x*$x - $x*$x}] set x -9408.8 set y -9408.8 set z -9408.8 puts [mpexpr {($x*$x + $y*$y + $z*$z - $x*$y - $y*$z - $z*$x)}]

Posted: 7 Days 22 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

Yes it seems large but double precision FP is in the order of 10^-16. When you square your number which is ~10^4, you get 10^8, and then you subtract two similar numbers of ~10^8 from each other, therefore the result is 16 orders of m

Posted: 8 Days 4 Hours ago by: Siri Cruise

while {abs(($a-$b)/($a+$b))>$epsilon} {...} Dividing the difference by the sum means relative error instead of absolute error.

Posted: 8 Days 4 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

Not likely. Tcl is coded in C, so the result should be the same. And the underlying FPU is the same, so the bits would the same.

Posted: 8 Days 4 Hours ago by: Siri Cruise

In article <f579a874-342c-42c7-94a6-7d5fdb1f5bb8n@googlegroups.com>, Alexandru <alexandru.dadalau@meshparts.de> wrote: Because real arithmetic is not guaranteed to utterly precise. The whole field of numerical analysis is about draggi

Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Thank you all. I actually aware of those numerical issues. But 1e-8 suprized me alot, because it's actually a large number in my opinion. I wonder, if same operation in C would give better results. Another intersting thing, changing order

Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: Rich

See https://floating-point-gui.de/ (and read most of the material there). What you are seeing is /normal/ for binary floating point math.

Posted: 8 Days 6 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

Floating point math 101: NEVER, EVERY do an == compare of a floating point computation to 0.0 as part of a loop condition. If you do this the loop may never stop. ALWAYS do a < compare to some very small number (a "fuzz" factor). On my

Posted: 8 Days 7 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

You always have roundings for double floats. -2.980232238769531e-8 If you want exact results, use integers with a defined decimal position. set x -94088 gives 0, so no conversion issues. I personally sometimes split in two variables:

Why is this result not zero?

Posted: 8 Days 7 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Why is this result not zero? set x -9408.8 puts [expr {$x*$x + $x*$x + $x*$x - $x*$x - $x*$x - $x*$x}] This is a simplified demo of a more complex equation: set x -9408.8 set y -9408.8 set z -9408.8 puts [expr {($x*$x + $y*$y + $z*$z

MPV Video Player and Tk

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today (thread)

Posted: 8 Days 22 Hours ago by: Westermeyer

Hello All, I've got a question about the MPV video player and possible Tk bindings... From their page, there is a link to the language bindings: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Language-bindings Would it be possible to implemen

Re: possible bug in "regexp" syntax ".*?" (thread)

Posted: 9 Days 9 Hours ago by: gustafn

The program is available at: https://openacs.org/conf2022/info/schedule

Re: possible bug in "regexp" syntax ".*?" (thread)

Posted: 9 Days 14 Hours ago by: Rich

Tcllib's PEG parser generator is relatively easy to use, once one grasps the syntax. http://tmml.sourceforge.net/doc/tcllib/peg.html There was also a nice example posted here to the group some months back for a PEG grammar. I forget

Re: possible bug in "regexp" syntax ".*?" (thread)

Posted: 9 Days 21 Hours ago by: heinrichmartin

You are looking for the description of the _preference_ of a RE. Take-away message: you cannot mix greedy and non-greedy matching; and the *first* quantifier determines the preference of the full RE. I often fall back to _not_ create the

Re: possible bug in "regexp" syntax ".*?" (thread)

Posted: 10 Days 8 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

I haven't checked the details, but your RE mixes greedy (+) and non-greedy (.*?) quantifiers. AFAIK, this can lead to hard to understand behaviour. Quote from the manpage: https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TclCmd/re_syntax.html "The matchi

possible bug in "regexp" syntax ".*?"

Posted: 10 Days 8 Hours ago by: aotto1968

Just as info, the following code do the job (split-by-hand) # @cartouche while {[regexp -indices {@cartouche[^@]+@smallexample} $txt allI]} { lassign $allI start1I start2I if {![regexp -indices -start $start2I {@end\s+smal

Re:_FIGLIO_DI_PUTTANAZZA_#PIERSILVIOBERLUSCONI_(ANCO (thread)

Posted: 10 Days 8 Hours ago by: aotto1968

Hi, my code # @cartouche while {[regexp -indices {@cartouche[^@]+@smallexample(.*?)@end smallexample[^@]+@end cartouche} $txt allI valI]} { set val [string trim [string range $txt {*}$valI]] set val [string map { \\@\{ @

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Re: missing feature for "regsub" (thread)

Posted: 12 Days 11 Hours ago by: Siri Cruise

In article <a81653bf-f4f0-4532-b4b2-d5e971b8cd27n@googlegroups.com>, Arjen Markus <arjen.markus895@gmail.com> wrote: Making every conceivable and inconceivable (and I do know its meaning) edit possible results in a bloat of never used

missing feature for "regsub"

Posted: 12 Days 12 Hours ago by: clt.to.davebr

The Tcl string functions are often faster than regexp (and regsub) for fairly complex string manipulations. For instance to convert snake to camel case: join [lmap x [split $str _] {string toupper $x 0 0}] "" is faster than: regsub

Re: missing feature for "regsub" (thread)

Posted: 12 Days 12 Hours ago by: Gerald Lester

You may want to consider using the *string map* command instead.

Re: missing feature for "regsub" (thread)

Posted: 12 Days 15 Hours ago by: Arjen Markus

If I remember correctly, Tcl 8.7 does allow you to specify a procedure like that. Regards, Arjen

missing feature for "regsub"

Posted: 12 Days 19 Hours ago by: aotto1968

Hi, *regsub* and *regexp* are used to apply a *regexpression* on a string. In difference to *regexp* the *regsub* is used to modify the string. I have the following problem: → I want to modify the string *config_error_text* to *confi

Re: RIVET 3.2.2 released (thread)

Posted: 13 Days 18 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

https://tcl.apache.org/rivet/ Enjoy, Harald

RIVET 3.2.2 released

Posted: 13 Days 19 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Dear TCL'ers, RIVET, the great TCL extension for Apache web server is released in version 3.2.2. This is a maintenance release with the following changes: - HTTP HEAD requests are now handled by the script by default - a memory leak

Posted: 13 Days 21 Hours ago by: heinrichmartin

Besides, the RE is not as intended. You could also test with [regsub "^${::librx}" $str ""]. Note the anchor at the beginning of the string. And not matching the full string might or might not be valid in your use case (i.e. only remove t

Re:_FIGLIO_DI_PUTTANAZZA_#PIERSILVIOBERLUSCONI_(ANCO (thread)

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: Gerald Lester

Don't think/guess -- test using the timing commands!!!!

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: MANUELA DONGHI AMANT

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Posted: 14 Days 7 Hours ago by: aotto1968

thanks for the answer… I thing a lot of performance is lost in tcl because of the *const-by-logic* issue. It is a typical task to define some *const* values at the beginning and use this *const* to do any kind of 'workload' like the o

Posted: 14 Days 7 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

This still holds: Time it Indeed, for a dynamic string like this, the global variable should be faster. Still, the RE engine caches not only the conmpiled expressino in the intrep, but also the most recently used expression strings in

Posted: 14 Days 7 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

Instead of asking, which one is faster, you should benchmark it. There is the time command in the core (and, in newer cores, also the timerate command) I would expect that there is no big difference. The largest effort is put into

Question about TCL speed

Expect mainenance and downstream patches

Posted: 14 Days 10 Hours ago by: aotto1968

Hi, this is a piece of code to delete a *const* prefix (librx) from a string (str) OLD: proc pCleanLibRx { str } { regsub "${::librx}(\\w+)$" $str {\1} } as you see the string is *not* static by definition only by *logic* Questio

Posted: 14 Days 19 Hours ago by: Andrej Shadura

Hi all, A friend brought my attention to the situation with Expect: the upstream maintenance slowed down to the point when the maintainer said he hasn’t got time to work on it anymore [1]; the SF project hasn’t been updated to point to

Re: Thank you, guys (thread)

Posted: 15 Days 2 Hours ago by: Alexandru

Yes! Same hier. Cheers Alexandru

Thank you, guys

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today (thread)

Posted: 15 Days 12 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

I just want to thank Ashok and Csaba for their amazing work on bug reports. I gave a report to both and they worked probably multiple nights through to find solutions. You guys rock ! Harald

Re: tcl8.7 on windows: linking against stubs library is now required in 8.7 (thread)

Posted: 15 Days 19 Hours ago by: stefan

- The program schedule will be published next week, right before the event; - There will be an opportunity for recordings, and for publishing them after the event (if approved on an individual basis); Stefan

Re:_Wie_kann_ich_Emails_über_GMX_konto_versenden? (thread)

Posted: 16 Days 17 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

--<snip-snip>-- --<snip-snip>-- | I would post a TCL ticket to have the discussion at the right place. | I suppose, this is an unintended side effect. [x] done https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcl/tktview/a55872c2429bea123139d3f2bd25182a2d6c78f

Re: tcl8.7 on windows: linking against stubs library is now required (thread)

Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: ALX

package require tls ::tls::init -tls 1 -ssl3 0 -ssl0 0 ::smtp::sendmessage ... -ports {25 587 465} -usetls 1 ... It is very important to use a current tcltls version =v1.7.22. The old tls 1.6.x does not use current crypo-alogrythms. Alex

tcl8.7 on windows: linking against stubs library is now required in 8.7

Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Ralf, I would post a TCL ticket to have the discussion at the right place. I suppose, this is an unintended side effect. Harald

Re: Expect core dumps with special regexp (thread)

Posted: 20 Days 9 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

Taking the minimal tclsh example from https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Building+a+custom+tclsh /* t.c */ #include <tcl.h> int AppInit(Tcl_Interp *interp) { if(Tcl_Init(interp) == TCL_ERROR) return TCL_ERROR; Tcl_

Re: Expect core dumps with special regexp (thread)

Posted: 20 Days 12 Hours ago by: heinrichmartin

https://core.tcl-lang.org/expect/tktview/be7d99dcc2a2f082bcdb43cc02f6d636d093699b "Note that trailing whitespace is quite common if the regexp with expanded syntax is written like a code block inside braces across several lines, i.e. the

Posted: 20 Days 13 Hours ago by: heinrichmartin

Actually, I have made huge progress by just writing it down for c.l.t. ... and I am answering my own question now: The difference is (obviously) the branch "|". Expect stops generating glob-gate when a branch is discovered (retglob.c:236

Expect core dumps with special regexp

Posted: 20 Days 18 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

* Paul Obermeier <obermeier@poSoft.de> --<snip-snip>-- | Tix does work with Tcl/Tk 8.7.a5 using my BAWT framework. | But I disable zipfs using "--disable-zipfs" when compiling Tcl and Tk. Thanks, Paul! In the meantime I got it compiling

Wie_kann_ich_Emails_über_GMX_konto_versenden?

Posted: 20 Days 18 Hours ago by: heinrichmartin

expect:/tmp$ set exp_library /usr/lib/expect5.45 expect:/tmp$ set tcl_patchLevel 8.6.4 expect:/tmp$ exp_internal 0 expect:/tmp$ log_user 0 1 expect:/tmp$ spawn ls -l 10133 expect:/tmp$ expect -re {(?x)[\r\n]+?} expect:/tmp$ expect -re {(?

Re: Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends (thread)

Posted: 20 Days 19 Hours ago by: markus

hi, wie kann ich mails mit tcl über ein gmx email konto versenden? hab vieles versucht, bekomms aber mit ::smtp::sendmessage nicht hin. hab diese einstellungen versucht: mail.gmx.net 587 tls, hab aber auch keine erfahrung mit SASL. ich ko

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 20 Days 21 Hours ago by: apn

Is there a program schedule published and will the presentations be streamed or recorded? /Ashok On 6/15/2022 3:06 PM, Paul Obermeier wrote:

Posted: 20 Days 21 Hours ago by: apn

I've updated the tclkits. Regarding the TLS, I don't think there will be a difference. Between autoproxy, http and tls it is difficult to tell what's going on. It seems to me there is a callback running after the socket is closed. This

Posted: 21 Days 10 Hours ago by: Paul Obermeier

Hi Ralf, Tix does work with Tcl/Tk 8.7.a5 using my BAWT framework. But I disable zipfs using "--disable-zipfs" when compiling Tcl and Tk. Paul

Posted: 21 Days 10 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

| Great ! But as tcl8.7a5 is also quite outdated, it would be great to | test against core-8-branch (tcl) and main (tk). Or better main branch | in both of them. Ah, ok. I just took what was linked on https://www.tcl-lang.org/ which lead

Posted: 21 Days 11 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Great ! But as tcl8.7a5 is also quite outdated, it would be great to test against core-8-branch (tcl) and main (tk). Or better main branch in both of them. Unfortunately, I have no answer to your real question, sorry. I may remark, tha

finding changes in tcl8.7?

Reminder: Registration for OpenACS and Tcl Conference 2022 ends today

Posted: 21 Days 11 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

Triggered by yesterdays' virtual meetup I took a chance on recompiling our code base against tcl8.7a5. Compilation succeeded with minor changes in some outdated packages (eg still using CONST84 macro which seems no longer available in 8.7)

Announcement: NaviServer 4.99.24 available

Posted: 21 Days 18 Hours ago by: Paul Obermeier

Dear all, Just a reminder, the registration for the conference ends today. We need the number of participants to make reservations for the social events. For details see: https://openacs.org/conf2022/info/ Best regards, Gustaf Neumann a

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: gustafn

Dear all, I am pleased to announce the availability of NaviServer 4.99.24 [1,2]. This release contains various fixes and enhancements. In short, it contains improved security features (reject invalid UTF-8), fallback charsets, Cookie supp

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 22 Days ago by: Alex P

Thank you, Ashok and Paul, for your detailed answers and concern. It's a general problem with those obsolete technologies, when you should and still don't like to say bye to them. All those extensions being abandoned... SF being replaced

Re: Jim Tcl: variables in namespace eval? sourcing non-regular files? (thread)

Posted: 22 Days 6 Hours ago by: Paul Obermeier

The InnoSetup based BAWT installer does not work on XP. If you extract the binaries (i.e. copy folder Tcl to ex. c:\Tcl) and add C:\Tcl to your Path variable, most of the simple BAWT tests run fine with the exception of: cffi iocp mawt tc

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 22 Days 18 Hours ago by: Steve Bennett

Jim stats the file, sees a size of zero and does nothing. It would be possible to change that but it seems low value. Perhaps send a patch to jimtcl on GitHub if you think is worth changing. Cheers, Steve

Posted: 22 Days 18 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Dear Ashok, it would be great, if you could also update the TCL+TWAPI starkits. That would help to try the new code related to my observed TLS bug. Thank you and take care, Harald

Re: June 2022 Tcl Meetup (thread)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 22 Days 21 Hours ago by: stevel

Just a reminder that the June Tcl Virtual Meetup is on today - Tuesday 14th June. Details below. On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 08:05:14 UTC+8, stevel wrote:

Re: Non-standard colors for ttk::scale elememnts... (thread)

Posted: 22 Days 22 Hours ago by: apn

yw The issue is more than the installer. The binaries are built with a runtime that is not available on XP. Building with an XP supported runtime had some issues that I don't recall (likely solvable but not where I want to spend my t

Non-standard colors for ttk::scale elememnts...

Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: Schelte

Add: ttk::style map NavigationHelmThrustor -background {active blue} Schelte.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows (thread)

Posted: 23 Days 7 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

I am trying to use ttk::scale widgets, but with (very) non-standard colors. I have things *mostly* set, but there is one color setting I can't seem to figure out how to set. Consider this piece of code: #******************************

ANNOUNCE: Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 1.12.1 for Windows

Posted: 23 Days 20 Hours ago by: Alex P

Ashok, Thank you very much for your efforts on promoting Tcl/Tk for Windows! I have some remarks, hopefully useful to you. 1) You build 64-bit version as well as 32-bit which is very very good because there are still a lot of 32-bit mach

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: apn

Version 1.12.1 of the Magicsplat Tcl/Tk 8.6.12 for Windows binary distribution is released with new packages and updates. Home page: https://www.magicsplat.com/tcl-installer/index.html Changes: https://www.magicsplat.com/tcl-installer/inde

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 24 Days 12 Hours ago by: saitology9

Binary (Windows, Linux, Darwin) ctext Img Imgtools jpeg Tcl-only (Cross-platform): ftp mime smtp pop3 tablelist tclhttpd wcb

Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: Arjen Markus

I updated the Wiki page with this information - it is not entirely complete, as sometimes the OS is missing, quite often the source is not filled in, and for some respondents I had no Wiki alias. Feel free to add or correct the information.

Re: ANNOUNCE: iocp 1.1.0 (thread)

Posted: 25 Days 14 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

+1 for the core. I use it everywhere and it is just great. The Bluetooth part is also interesting, but is loosing power, as BTLE is not supported. And modern barcode scanners use BTLE, which is also a challenge on Android. I am also

Re: ANNOUNCE: iocp 1.1.0 (thread)

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 1 Hour ago by: apn

yw. It's good to know of use in production as it is relatively new. At some point, once it's been more battle tested in the real world, I'd consider proposing it for the core. So thanks for letting me know. /Ashok

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 6 Hours ago by: ALX

tdom tcltls rl_json nacl tserialport tzint websh tkImg Ffidl rbc tbcload tclparser tclcompiler tdbc::* sqlite3 oratcl udp

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 16 Hours ago by: saitology9

Hello, Thank you for doing this. I would add Oratcl to the list as a new entry. I also would like to point out a similar endeavor that has been around for some time. Please check it out for a large list of packages and useful widget

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 18 Hours ago by: Alan Grunwald

Img tdbc::mysql tdbc::sqlite3 tdom tls

Posted: 26 Days 20 Hours ago by: Arjen Markus

I have started added the information in this thread to the Wiki page, but this is quite a bit of work, since there are luckily so many reactions :). As Steve and I realised that besides the "purely" compiled extensions we also have script-o

Re: June 2022 Tcl Meetup (thread)

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 21 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Great and thank you. The time is very confortable for Europe. Unfortunately, I have a conflicting meeting at the same time for 2 hours. I may look in after it, if anybody is still there after 2 hours. I wish you a fruitful meeting ! Wit

Re: Jim Tcl: variables in namespace eval? (thread)

Posted: 26 Days 21 Hours ago by: rene

Hi dave could you send me your changes? I still have a rbc repo at chiselapp. And an oo-like version in tko. Thank you

Posted: 27 Days 1 Hour ago by: Ivan Shmakov

[...] That's it; I've totally missed there needs to be a 'variable' command! Somehow, it doesn't seem to be documented in Jim's Tcl.html, which may be the reason why, to think of it. Now I get the consistent behavior; thanks.

Re: June 2022 Tcl Meetup (thread)

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: stevel

Apologies, the clock format was wrong ... it should be 1655211600 The times listed as am/pm are correct. On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 08:05:14 UTC+8, stevel wrote:

Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: Keith Nash

expect Img kitgen including rechan for "starkit-lite" pikchr tclvfs Tclx tdom tcltls with libressl tksvg twapi vlerq/vqtcl for "starkit-lite" winsend Keith.

June 2022 Tcl Meetup

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: stevel

The monthly Tcl Virtual Meetup is held the second Tuesday of each month, the time varies from month-to-month to accomodate various timezones. The next meetup will be held at [clock format 1655218800] - Tuesday 14th June 2022 6am US West,

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 6 Hours ago by: Rolf Ade

Forgot tcltls twapi (only a small part, so far)

Re: Jim Tcl: variables in namespace eval? sourcing non-regular files? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 6 Hours ago by: Rolf Ade

tDOM Img tktable treectrl tclsqlite tclodbc tkhtml3 tclcsv (the binary extension by Ashok) MuPDF

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 6 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

Do you really mean: namespace eval foo { variable bar set bar 42 } ??? Wondering if the bug is not what you think it is. Maybe Tcl 8.6, when it see "set foo::bar ...", it automagically implies a namespace eval foo {variable bar}

Jim Tcl: variables in namespace eval? sourcing non-regular files?

Posted: 27 Days 6 Hours ago by: Shaun Deacon

Img Itcl tbcload tktable tdom Sometimes, but less so these days : Tix expect blt Shaun

Posted: 27 Days 8 Hours ago by: Ivan Shmakov

I've recently stumbled on the different treatment of variables in namespace eval body between Jim Tcl (as of 0.81 nb 1, 0.79 +dfsg0-2 and 0.77 +dfsg0-3 [1-3]) and Tcl 8.6. [1] http://pkgsrc.se/lang/jimtcl [2] http://packages.debian.org

Re: Deadline Approaching (thread)

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 10 Hours ago by: gustafn

Dear all, Just a reminder, the registration for the conference ends in one week. We need the number of participants to make reservations for the social events. For details, see: https://openacs.org/conf2022/info/ Best regards, Gustaf Ne

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 12 Hours ago by: Nicolas

TkDnD BalTip TableList MEntry ScrollUtil WCB AwThemes FSDialog ++ nicolas

Posted: 27 Days 12 Hours ago by: Schelte

ceptcl (0.3) dbus fcntl fswatch img::jpeg photoresize piio rl_json signal sqlite3 tbcload tcludp tdom thread tkhtml (2.0) tktray tls Schelte

What binary extensions do you use?

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 13 Hours ago by: clt.to.davebr

Img rbc (is there a site that collects changes? I've got some) tckMuPDF dave b

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 13 Hours ago by: h.ol...@geon.nl

- tdbc::postgres and tdbc::sqlite3 - crimp (https://chiselapp.com/user/andreas_kupries/repository/crimp/index) - tdom - tls - CAWT - tclcsv (https://tclcsv.magicsplat.com/) And lots of tcllib modules. The top 3 are very essential for my wo

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 14 Hours ago by: Paul Obermeier

Besides the packages I compile for community purposes with BAWT (see http://www.bawt.tcl3d.org/download.html#packages) I personally use the following extensions regularly: Windows, Linux and Mac: fitsTcl Img critcl Tcl3D tclMuPdf tdom tk

Posted: 27 Days 15 Hours ago by: Christian Gollwitzer

Hi Arjen, in addition to what has been said, I now use TclCurl (fork from FlightAware). Much easier to work with than TLS/HTP combination! And rl_json for efficient JSON access Actually, I would propose to include rl_json or some equi

Re: ANNOUNCE: iocp 1.1.0 (thread)

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 15 Hours ago by: Petro Kazmirchuk

Ashok, thank you so much for this package! I've just discovered iocp_inet, and it literally saved my project, where I need to receive simulated satellite data over TCP on Windows with rather high data rate (>600 Mbit/s split across 3 proces

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 16 Hours ago by: Ralf Fassel

* Arjen Markus <arjen.markus895@gmail.com> | next week there will be another online monthly meeting and as we | discussed last time, we would like to know what binary extensions you | use. This would be information for a catalogue of such e

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 18 Hours ago by: Robert Heller

I use Img and sometimes Tls. At Thu, 9 Jun 2022 00:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Arjen Markus <arjen.markus895@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 18 Hours ago by: Arjen Markus

Hi Christian, Harald, thanks for this information - as for Tcl-only packages, I suppose we can easily exclude (or make a separate inventory of those :)) Regards, Arjen

Re: What binary extensions do you use? (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 18 Hours ago by: Christian Werner

Posted: 27 Days 19 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Arjen, thank you for caring. Here is my list: Platform: Windows twapi tksvg tdbc::odbc tdbc::sqlite tdom tcom (obsolete) tclodbc (obsolete) iocp thread Platform Androwish: tcltls tdbc::sqlite tdom Thank you for all, Harald

What binary extensions do you use?

Re: ANNOUNCE: Tcl Windows API 4.7.1 released (thread)

Posted: 27 Days 20 Hours ago by: Arjen Markus

Hi everyone, next week there will be another online monthly meeting and as we discussed last time, we would like to know what binary extensions you use. This would be information for a catalogue of such extensions. For now, just the names

Posted: 28 Days 21 Hours ago by: Harald Oehlmann

Awesome work, Ashok, thank you! Specially, your WMI work with the great tutorial book was totally new to me, I apreciate! Harald

ANNOUNCE: Ruff! 2.3.0

ANNOUNCE: Tcl Windows API 4.7.1 released

Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: apn

Ruff! (Runtime function formatter) is a documentation generation system for programs written in the Tcl programming language. Ruff! uses runtime introspection in conjunction with comment analysis to generate reference documentation for Tcl

Re: Loading a .tcl file results in 'Bad exe format.' message (thread)

Posted: 29 Days ago by: apn

# Tcl Windows API (TWAPI) 4.7.1 This is the release version of TWAPI 4.7.1. * Project home page is at https://twapi.sourceforge.net * V4.7 documentation is at https://twapi.magicsplat.com/v4.7 * Downloads are at https://source

Posted: 29 Days 11 Hours ago by: Helmut Giese

Arrgh, what a blunder. I was attempting to install a package via "copy 'n paste" but evidently didn't pay attention and started from a pkgIndex file which 'loaded' a dll - instead of one that 'sourced' a Tcl file. Thanks a lot for spotting

Tcl for Creo Parametric

Re: uplevel and {*}$args -- variable number of args. (thread)

Posted: 29 Days 16 Hours ago by: Tcl 4 Creo

Now compiled with Creo Parametric 9.0 libs and Tcl 8.6 (no more deprecated Creo Calls in use) More Info on the Tcl's Wiki and/or Youtube #Dirty parameter sample, foreach model in session set the parameter MyParam as a String with the value

Re: uplevel and {*}$args -- variable number of args. (thread)

Posted: 29 Days 18 Hours ago by: luocl

or this style uplevel #0 [list $options(-callback) PLANETARY_ORBIT \ [from arglist -epoch] [from arglist -position] [from arglist -velocity]]

Re: Loading a .tcl file results in 'Bad exe format.' message (thread)

Posted: 29 Days 18 Hours ago by: Mole Cool

Just use eval, if you start quoting it may get ugly :-) uplevel #0 $options(-callback) PLANETARY_ORBIT [from arglist -epoch] \ [list [from arglist -position] ] [list [from arglist -velocity]] Then in the callback proc: method _clientC