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* usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
+* usb3-over-eth, anyone?Airmailman
|`- usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
+* usb3-over-eth, anyone?MRO
|`* usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
| `* usb3-over-eth, anyone?MRO
|  `* usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
|   +* usb3-over-eth, anyone?MRO
|   |`- usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
|   `* usb3-over-eth, anyone?nostalia
|    +- usb3-over-eth, anyone?MRO
|    `- usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg
`* usb3-over-eth, anyone?Nightfox
 `- usb3-over-eth, anyone?Ogg

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From: airmailman@VERT (Airmailman)
To: Ogg
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:20:42 -0700
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 by: Airmailman - Mon, 20 Mar 2023 05:20 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to All on Sat Feb 25 2023 06:43 pm

> I have a pc that has limited or non-fuctional usb2 ports. I'd
> like to have support for fast usb3 devices. Is there a
> reasonably-priced usb3-over-eth solution? The Digi AnywhereUSB
> AW02-G300 sounds awesome but it is over $400.

What about a PCIe expansion card. I see USB3 cards going for as little as $5.

Spend the other $395 on gas...

Cheers,
Dennis

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: Airmailman
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: Ogg - Mon, 20 Mar 2023 11:00 UTC

Hello Airmailman!

>> I have a pc that has limited or non-fuctional usb2 ports.
>> I'd like to have support for fast usb3 devices. Is there a
>> reasonably-priced usb3-over-eth solution? The Digi
>> AnywhereUSB AW02-G300 sounds awesome but it is over $400.

A> What about a PCIe expansion card. I see USB3 cards going
A> for as little as $5.

I decided to get an ExpressCard/54 (PCIe). My T60 Thinkpad
seemed to accomodate one ..and I didn't realize ExpressCard
support was there.

The new card is equipped with three USB3.0 ports.

Seems to be a good stop-gap measure for now.

The USB3 speeds on the card are about double what I was getting
on the USB2 ports. That's good enuff for now.

A> Spend the other $395 on gas...

No kidding. :O

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: All
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: Ogg - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:43 UTC

I have a pc that has limited or non-fuctional usb2 ports. I'd
like to have support for fast usb3 devices. Is there a
reasonably-priced usb3-over-eth solution? The Digi AnywhereUSB
AW02-G300 sounds awesome but it is over $400.
--

--- OpenXP 5.0.57
* Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Ogg
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 15:56:59 -0600
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 by: MRO - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:56 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to All on Sat Feb 25 2023 06:43 pm

> I have a pc that has limited or non-fuctional usb2 ports. I'd
> like to have support for fast usb3 devices. Is there a
> reasonably-priced usb3-over-eth solution? The Digi AnywhereUSB
> AW02-G300 sounds awesome but it is over $400.

you can't get a usb 3.0 card?
that's what i have
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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: Ogg
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
Message-ID: <63FAE4AD.5780.dove_dove-int@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:48:45 -0800
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 by: Nightfox - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:48 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to All on Sat Feb 25 2023 06:43 pm

Og> I have a pc that has limited or non-fuctional usb2 ports. I'd
Og> like to have support for fast usb3 devices. Is there a
Og> reasonably-priced usb3-over-eth solution? The Digi AnywhereUSB
Og> AW02-G300 sounds awesome but it is over $400.

Why do you want it to go over ethernet? There are USB3 expansion cards you can add to a PC. This is a PCI express card:
https://amzn.to/3m5uyUM

Full link:
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Express-SuperSpeed-Controller-Adapter/dp/B0 09AT5SVS

Nightfox

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: MRO
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
Message-ID: <63FB74B8.5359.dove-int@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:36:00 -0500
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:36 UTC

Hello MRO!

M> you can't get a usb 3.0 card?
M> that's what i have

It's a laptop.

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From: ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Ogg)
To: Nightfox
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 03:03:00 -0500
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:03 UTC

Hello Nightfox!

** On Saturday 25.02.23 - 20:48, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

N> Why do you want it to go over ethernet? There are USB3 expansion cards
N> you can add to a PC. This is a PCI express card: https://amzn.to/3m5uyUM

Thx. ..but I guess I failed to mention that my "pc" is a
laptop. It has two PCMCIA ports, but I don't think USB 3
speeds would be supported thru that interface, thus I haven't
seen such a beast.

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To: Ogg
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: MRO - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 12:08 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Feb 26 2023 09:36 am

> Hello MRO!
>
> M> you can't get a usb 3.0 card?
> M> that's what i have
>
> It's a laptop.

do you really need to use that laptop?
why not get a new desktop computer.
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To: MRO
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: Ogg - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 19:27 UTC

Hello MRO!

** On Sunday 26.02.23 - 13:08, MRO wrote to Ogg:

>> M> you can't get a usb 3.0 card?
>> M> that's what i have
>>
>> It's a laptop.

M> do you really need to use that laptop?
M> why not get a new desktop computer.

It's much easier and cheaper to adapt a USB3 controller than to
replace an entire PC.

Besides.. the laptop *is* basically my "desktop" computer. I
don't need to change that aspect. It's parked at my desk
somewhat permanently. I've adapted to it. I like the all-in-one
ergonomics. And the keyboard of the T60 is superb to work with.

Meanwhile, I found what I think will work. $25, shipped.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/115455105658

It might not provide the screaming 10x speed of USB2. But I've
been reading that 3x is the norm. That's still pretty good for
my purposes.

I still think a USB3 adaptor that would work on the higher
capacity Gigabit Ethernet port would be more practical for me.
<g>

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To: Ogg
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: MRO - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:00 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Feb 26 2023 09:27 pm

>
>
> It's much easier and cheaper to adapt a USB3 controller than to
> replace an entire PC.
>
> Besides.. the laptop *is* basically my "desktop" computer. I
> don't need to change that aspect. It's parked at my desk
> somewhat permanently. I've adapted to it. I like the all-in-one
> ergonomics. And the keyboard of the T60 is superb to work with.
>
> Meanwhile, I found what I think will work. $25, shipped.

you don't know what you're missing.

>
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/115455105658
>
> It might not provide the screaming 10x speed of USB2. But I've
> been reading that 3x is the norm. That's still pretty good for
> my purposes.

hopefully it works. can you return it if you have issues?
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To: MRO
Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:11:00 -0500
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 by: Ogg - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:11 UTC

Hello MRO!

M> hopefully it works. can you return it if you have issues?

I'll worry about it if/when that happens.

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Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: nostalia - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:33 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Feb 26 2023 09:27 pm

If you're looking for something new instead of ebay -- https://www.usbgear.com/ANYPLACEUSB-H3.html is a 3-port USB 3.1 over IP hub. Accessing over IP of course with a T60 with a Gigabit ethernet will limit you to Gigabit speeds. Anything over ethernet/IP will be the same. Effectively this is way faster than USB2.0, but only about double the theoretical maximum speed of USB2.0 (though has anyone really seen that speed sustained?)

Most things you do over USB are pretty sporadic anyways.

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 by: MRO - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 00:51 UTC

Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
By: nostalia to MRO on Wed Mar 01 2023 07:33 pm

> Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
> By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Feb 26 2023 09:27 pm
>
> If you're looking for something new instead of ebay --
> https://www.usbgear.com/ANYPLACEUSB-H3.html is a 3-port USB 3.1 over IP hub.

no i'm not looking for anything. i dont have a fucked up system.
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Subject: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
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 by: Ogg - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 06:06 UTC

Hello nostalia!

** On Wednesday 01.03.23 - 19:33, nostalia wrote to MRO:

n> Re: usb3-over-eth, anyone?
n> By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Feb 26 2023 09:27 pm

n> If you're looking for something new instead of ebay --
n> https://www.usbgear.com/ANYPLACEUSB-H3.html is a 3-port USB 3.1 over IP

Excellent find. Thx.

I suppose this could just be a RaspPi repackaged?

n> Most things you do over USB are pretty sporadic anyways.

Perhaps, but a device like that can supplant the meagre USB2 on
older laptops.

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