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* H.265 videoDumas Walker
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|`* H.265 videoDumas Walker
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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: ALL
Subject: H.265 video
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 by: Dumas Walker - Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:10 UTC

I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264
setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With
the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some
searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also
need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback
correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video
on a linux machine?

Thanks!

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H.265 video

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: H.265 video
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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:06:24 -0500
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 by: MRO - Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:06 UTC

Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

> I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264
> setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With
> the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some
> searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also
> need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback
> correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video
> on a linux machine?
>
> Thanks!

you are missing the specs of the machine and specs of the video you are trying to play
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H.265 video

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From: arelor@VERT/PALANT (Arelor)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: H.265 video
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 00:56:19 -0500
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 by: Arelor - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 05:56 UTC

Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

> I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop se
> to have no issues playing the videos back. With
> the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear
> have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to
> get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265
> video
> on a linux machine?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> * SLMR 2.1a * Sorcerer parking only. Violators will be toad.
>

Which program are you using to reproduce the video?

With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and you have to enable
multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for example.

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H.265 video

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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: MRO
Subject: H.265 video
Message-ID: <60C60960.2678.dove-nix@capitolcityonline.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 02:29:00 -0400
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 by: Dumas Walker - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 06:29 UTC

> > I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264
> > setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With
> > the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some
> > searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also
> > need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback
> > correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video
> > on a linux machine?
> >
> > Thanks!

> you are missing the specs of the machine and specs of the video you are trying
> o play

The video was shot at 1080p 90FPS. The machine is running the latest
version of debian and has a multi-core intel processor (although I cannot
remember which one).

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H.265 video

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: H.265 video
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 11:56:00 -0500
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 by: MRO - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:56 UTC

Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Jun 13 2021 09:29 am

> The video was shot at 1080p 90FPS. The machine is running the latest
> version of debian and has a multi-core intel processor (although I cannot
> remember which one).
>

try vlc and see how it goes. it should be able to run it fine.
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Re: H.265 video

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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: Arelor
Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 09:29:30 -0400
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 by: Dumas Walker - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 13:29 UTC

> Re: H.265 video
> By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

> > I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the
> > 264 setting, my laptop se
> > to have no issues playing the videos back. With
> > the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some
> > searching. I do appear
> > have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the
> > 'dev' libraries/packages to
> > get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all
> > have re: playing H.265
> > video
> > on a linux machine?
> Which program are you using to reproduce the video?

> With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and you
> have to enable
> multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for
> example.

I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you bring up. The
machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU, but I don't know that it is
attempting to use them all or not. I know there are some programs where you
can specify the number of cores to use on the command line but based on the
help output vlc does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.
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Re: H.265 video

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Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:55:46 -0500
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 by: MRO - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:55 UTC

Re: Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to Arelor on Sun Jun 13 2021 04:29 pm

> > Which program are you using to reproduce the video?
>
> > With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and
> > you have to enable
> > multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for
> > example.
>
>
> I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you bring up.
> The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU, but I don't know that
> it is attempting to use them all or not. I know there are some programs
> where you can specify the number of cores to use on the command line but
> based on the help output vlc does not appear to have an option to force it
> to use N cores.
>

you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue.
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Re: H.265 video

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To: MRO
Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:49:00 -0400
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 by: Dumas Walker - Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:49 UTC

> you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue

Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same
settings otherwise, looks just fine.

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Re: H.265 video

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Subject: Re: H.265 video
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 by: MRO - Tue, 15 Jun 2021 01:04 UTC

Re: Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jun 14 2021 04:49 pm

> > you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware
> > issue
>
> Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
> could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same
> settings otherwise, looks just fine.
>

well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?
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To: MRO
Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 03:05:00 -0400
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 by: Dumas Walker - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:05 UTC

> > > you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware
> > > issue
> >
> > Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
> > could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same
> > settings otherwise, looks just fine.
> >

> well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?

I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I
download appears not to be H265.

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Re: H.265 video

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Subject: Re: H.265 video
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 by: MRO - Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:15 UTC

Re: Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jun 16 2021 10:05 am

> > > > you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some
> > > > hardware issue
>
> > > Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
> > > could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same
> > > settings otherwise, looks just fine.
>
>
> > well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?
>
> I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I
> download appears not to be H265.
>

you dont steal movies and tv?
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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: MRO
Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 08:40:00 -0400
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 by: Dumas Walker - Thu, 17 Jun 2021 12:40 UTC

> > I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I
> > download appears not to be H265.
> >

> you dont steal movies and tv?

No I don't have the time (lately!) to watch the ones I have waiting on the
DVR!

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From: ksource@VERT/ENSEMBLE (Ksource)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: H.265 video
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 by: Ksource - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 00:57 UTC

Re: H.265 video
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

> I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264
> setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With
> the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some
> searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also
> need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback
> correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video
> on a linux machine?

A lot of GPUs have built-in h264 hardware acceleration. I don't know the state of
hardware h264 acceleration, but it's probably much more spotty, particularly if it's
an older laptop. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your machine just doesn't have any
hardware acceleration for h265

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Subject: Re: H.265 video
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 by: Tracker1 - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:43 UTC

On 6/13/2021 1:29 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:
>
> I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you
> bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU,
> but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I
> know there are some programs where you can specify the number of
> cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc
> does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.

The i3-4000M is a Haswell architecture, the iGPU doesn't support
QuickSync decoding for h.265 in that generation, so it's doing CPU
decoding, which your system *should* be able to handle, but it's pretty
high overhead, which would account for stuttering, and will vary based
on memory and hdd performance as well.
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 by: Tracker1 - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:49 UTC

On 6/18/2021 12:57 AM, Ksource wrote:
>> I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With
>> the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos
>> back. With the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running
>> debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries
>> installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev'
>> libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there
>> any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video on a linux
>> machine?
>
> A lot of GPUs have built-in h264 hardware acceleration. I don't know
> the state of hardware h264 acceleration, but it's probably much more
> spotty, particularly if it's an older laptop. I'd bet dollars to
> doughnuts that your machine just doesn't have any hardware
> acceleration for h265

From other messages (i3-4000M) QuickSync does have h.264, but not h.265
hardware support, so you are correct in your assertion... I did take the
time to check.

Intel Skylake (5000 series) added hardware h.265
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Subject: Re: H.265 video
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Re: Re: H.265 video
By: Tracker1 to Ksource on Sun Jun 27 2021 03:49 pm

> From other messages (i3-4000M) QuickSync does have h.264, but not h.265
> hardware support, so you are correct in your assertion... I did take the
> time to check.
>

that's sad because i have android tv's that can play h265
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To: TRACKER1
Subject: Re: H.265 video
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 by: Dumas Walker - Mon, 28 Jun 2021 16:37 UTC

> > I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you
> > bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU,
> > but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I
> > know there are some programs where you can specify the number of
> > cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc
> > does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.

> The i3-4000M is a Haswell architecture, the iGPU doesn't support
> QuickSync decoding for h.265 in that generation, so it's doing CPU
> decoding, which your system *should* be able to handle, but it's pretty
> high overhead, which would account for stuttering, and will vary based
> on memory and hdd performance as well.

Thanks!

To everyone who responded -- thanks to you all. It *appears* that the
issue may not be the hardware I am playing back on, but the power source I
was using while recording. I still need to retest 90fps but, at 60fps off
the battery pack, I recorded video that played back without issue.

The video I took that had difficulty was taken when the camera was plugged
into my car's power vs. the battery. I did not take that into
consideration.

I am testing 90fps from battery source right now so we will see what
happens. :)

on edit - nope that wasn't it after all. Apparently 60fps good, 90fps bad!

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